OMG One Bombs!

[Wark2002]

Yes, I know this topic is in hundreds Aubrey thousands, of posts already, and, yes, I know that in the long run it doesn’t matter because the story is going along well already, but for God’s sake, these bombs are pissing me off. My latest story dropped on, I believe, Tuesday and was actually polling up 4.9 plus. Then it got one bombed, I believe twice, to something like 4.82 - still a very respectable score. It began to edge back up to the mid 4.80s and got hit twice in a row until it hit the high 4.70s. Still an excellent score but it almost seems like someone is trying to hit me specifically. Obviously I know it’s not the case, seeing the multiplicity of posts here about the issue. Obviously the score it has now is nothing to sneeze at either. And, obviously, as I mentioned in a board post just yesterday, if you know a story is good you shouldn’t lose your cool and certainly should remember that, while it is good to receive affirmation, votes are not the most important thing. However, this is senseless- it may not be a five star story but it is certainly not a one star story - and irritating as Hell.
Ok, done now. Sorry.

https://literotica.com/s/libragirl2003

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=5430653&page=submissions

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Hah, my submission is two years old and was in the 4.5s until a couple of weeks ago I reported a spammer in chat and the spammer got kicked from the chat on multiple alt accounts. The next thing that I know, someone tells me 'sorry for the bad reviews', and I was like, huh, and checked my score. It was down to 2.4! One petty cunt on multiple accounts, that's all it takes to kill two years of ratings. Too bad for the bomber that I don't give a shit about the scores.

Still 4.7? That doesn't even break the skin.

 

[Wark2002]

Hah, my submission is two years old and was in the 4.5s until a couple of weeks ago I reported a spammer in chat and the spammer got kicked from the chat on multiple alt accounts. The next thing that I know, someone tells me 'sorry for the bad reviews', and I was like, huh, and checked my score. It was down to 2.4! One petty cunt on multiple accounts, that's all it takes to kill two years of ratings. Too bad for the bomber that I don't give a shit about the scores.

Still 4.7? That doesn't even break the skin.

I absolutely know; two years, 15 stories, all above 4, 10 above 4.5 - I am very very fortunate, I understand that. And the scores ultimately don't matter anyway. Still, it's annoying. I like feedback, positive or respectfully negative, but comment numbers are down so all we really have are the number ratings.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

easy fix: turn off the option for votes/stars/whatever during the submission phase.

comments, too.

you'll still receive feedback via email. sending feedback means a couple of more clicks, which means effort. less likely to get the trolling, idiot comments that way. if the piece is good, those who enjoy it will make the3 effort to say so.

not a fool proof plan, but no plan survives contact with the enemy.

 

[Carnevil9]

Poor baby. Your story got one-bombed down to the "high 4.70s." Sounds like a humble-brag to me. Cry me a river.

 

[Wark2002]

No, my apologies, that's not what I was going for. My point is that I have a lot to be happy for, but the thought behind the bombs is just perplexing.

 

[DHerbert]

A couple of weeks ago I looked at my ratings to find they had risen significantly overnight. The numbers of voters didn't seem to have changed so I wonder if some of the 1 star ratings, that had annoyed me so much at the time, had been deleted. I'm not sure about that, but am still very pleased anyway at the revised scores!

 

[pink_silk_glove]

My point is that I have a lot to be happy for

Really?

but for God’s sake, these bombs are pissing me off.

(shrug)

 

[geronimo_appleby]

easy fix: turn off the option for votes/stars/whatever during the submission phase.

comments, too.

you'll still receive feedback via email. sending feedback means a couple of more clicks, which means effort. less likely to get the trolling, idiot comments that way.

A couple of weeks ago I looked at my ratings to find they had risen significantly overnight. The numbers of voters didn't seem to have changed so I wonder if some of the 1 star ratings, that had annoyed me so much at the time, had been deleted. I'm not sure about that, but am still very pleased anyway at the revised scores!

could be a 'sweep.' happens during competition times, which are sorta perpetual...

 

[Defluer]

Hah, my submission is two years old and was in the 4.5s until a couple of weeks ago I reported a spammer in chat and the spammer got kicked from the chat on multiple alt accounts. The next thing that I know, someone tells me 'sorry for the bad reviews', and I was like, huh, and checked my score. It was down to 2.4! One petty cunt on multiple accounts, that's all it takes to kill two years of ratings. Too bad for the bomber that I don't give a shit about the scores.

Wowzers! Did the sweeps get it yet? I would hope that there would be an algorithm in play to flag an insane drop like that. I do wish we could see the percentage of different votes as they come in and maybe the click through/away rate. Although that might be depressing it would also be educational to see how fast those Ones are dropping, to be able to dismiss them as trolls, how many people just back out after a couple seconds, and even if somebody is clicking through quickly and dropping a 5. I don't think I get fake 5s but I know I get Troll 1s.

 

[Lifestyle66]

No, my apologies, that's not what I was going for. My point is that I have a lot to be happy for, but the thought behind the bombs is just perplexing.

I have a hater tracking my posts who hit my latest story with a one right out of the gate. It took two days before I received another rating.

So, no sympathy here.

If the ratings are so important to you, create multiple accounts and use multiple browsers to pat yourself on the back with dozens of 5's.

 

[Lifestyle66]

could be a 'sweep.' happens during competition times, which are sorta perpetual...

I've found those sweeps happen around Tuesday, with a sudden rating change.

 

[NotWise]

What makes you think they were 1-bombs? You can't really tell unless you're actually back-calculating the votes, and a lot of people seem to think that any down vote is a 1-bomb. With a high score and low vote total, anything below a 5* vote is damaging.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Welcome to the real Literotica, Wark.

There are all kinds of one-bombers, IMO. Some lurk the New Stories page and bomb anything that appears. Some on the other hand are more focused and target specific authors.

The why of it is open to interpretation. Some, I think, are like toddlers. Unable to build their own stack of building blocks, they take delight in knocking down those build by others. Whee! Then there are those motivated by hatred (with whatever label you wish to attach). Most despicable of all, IMO, are those who target high-rated stories to help their own win prizes. Personal opinion above, but I know many agree with me.

Sweeps help, but we do not discuss how sweeps work. A good guess can help a bomber avoid the sweeps. If you have reason to believe you have been one-bombed, hit the Report icon on the story and request a sweep. If one happens, it will cover all your stuff, not just the one reported. As there is a contest going on now, sweeps will be more frequent than normal.

Keep in mind what NW says above about jumping to conclusions.

 

[Agiel]

One of the reasons why I stick with Agiel for my comments and another username for my stories. I chose Agiel to submit one particular story and then thought I’d keep it for all my comments. Since doing so none of my stories under my “proper name” have been bombed. Always a danger someone will take offence to a comment, however innocuous, and take action, anonymously of course, because their moronic mind works that way.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have a hater tracking my posts who hit my latest story with a one right out of the gate. It took two days before I received another rating.

So, no sympathy here.

If the ratings are so important to you, create multiple accounts and use multiple browsers to pat yourself on the back with dozens of 5's.

Not just fives, but you can pretend to be other people praising your story in the comments section. Someone was outed for that awhile back because they over estimated their intelligence and underestimated everyone else's.

I've been here a long time. I've gotten all the bombs. The kind from category trolls who run up and down the new list of said category hitting everything. The personal trolls who didn't like a couple of my stories so faved me just to know when I have something new to bomb that.

The forum trolls who hit my stories when they don't like my opinions. The contest trolls, the authors and readers on top lists who don't like my story may have supplanted theirs.

Its stupid, its petty, but its how things are and I shrug it off because pretty much everyone here deals with the same stuff. Its not personal, its just the awesome power of interwebz courage granted to anonymous.

 

[dmallord]

What makes you think they were 1-bombs? You can't really tell unless you're actually back-calculating the votes, and a lot of people seem to think that any down vote is a 1-bomb. With a high score and low vote total, anything below a 5* vote is damaging.

Correct on this statement! I track my scores in an Excel spreadsheet. I can make a drop like the one cited happen and not even use a -1- vote. With a high score at 4.9 just a couple of fours will do it - depending on the total votes tabulated of course.

 

[8letters]

I've been here a long time. I've gotten all the bombs. The kind from category trolls who run up and down the new list of said category hitting everything. The personal trolls who didn't like a couple of my stories so faved me just to know when I have something new to bomb that.

The forum trolls who hit my stories when they don't like my opinions. The contest trolls, the authors and readers on top lists who don't like my story may have supplanted theirs.

Its stupid, its petty, but its how things are and I shrug it off because pretty much everyone here deals with the same stuff. Its not personal, its just the awesome power of interwebz courage granted to anonymous.

I'm sorry. I don't believe you.

My last story, I got 258 votes on the first day it was published. It's been published for two months now and has over 900 votes. If that story got one-bombed by one person, there's no way I could tell. Five one-bombs would change its score by .02, which is pretty close to noise. And I don't have anywhere near the followers that you have. If I click on Popular Authors for I/T for the last 30 days, you're #5. I rarely make it onto that list and then for only a few days.

How many thousands of votes does your average story have? How can you tell you've been one-bombed?

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm sorry. I don't believe you.

My last story, I got 258 votes on the first day it was published. It's been published for two months now and has over 900 votes. If that story got one-bombed by one person, there's no way I could tell. Five one-bombs would change its score by .02, which is pretty close to noise. And I don't have anywhere near the followers that you have. If I click on Popular Authors for I/T for the last 30 days, you're #5. I rarely make it onto that list and then for only a few days.

How many thousands of votes does your average story have? How can you tell you've been one-bombed?

You don't believe what? That I get one bombed? Everyone here gets one bombed, its the amount of damage it causes that fluctuates depending on category.

You think you're the only one that can score watch? I've said for years that on any new story I put out I get a flurry of bombs between 12-1pm meaning someone who can multi vote likes to use their lunch break to bomb people.

Also what does my popularity have to do with anything? If nothing else being on any type of top list will draw trolls. No one here even knows how that 1/7/30 day list works. I've been on it without posting a new story in close to a year so not sure what activity that list uses. So why you're not on it, I have no idea

I also do have stories that aren't in incest where the votes totals are low enough to keep track of(example my Halloween entry last year was in Group Sex) My only other story from last year was in Mature, also a contest entry. I have older stories on categories that don't get that many votes that on the occasions I scroll through my file I see have gradually sunk over time because the bombs can affect them.

End of the day, you don't have to believe me, and I don't care if you do or not. Whatever sour grapes you have about not making a list you think you should be on has nothing to do with me.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm sorry. I don't believe you.

My last story, I got 258 votes on the first day it was published. It's been published for two months now and has over 900 votes. If that story got one-bombed by one person, there's no way I could tell. Five one-bombs would change its score by .02, which is pretty close to noise. And I don't have anywhere near the followers that you have. If I click on Popular Authors for I/T for the last 30 days, you're #5. I rarely make it onto that list and then for only a few days.

How many thousands of votes does your average story have? How can you tell you've been one-bombed?

Speaking for myself, I sometimes know I've been 1-bombed because the bomber tells me. Something to the effect, "You suck. 1 star."

It's not difficult to tell you've been 1-bombed within the first 24 hours if you pay close attention, which I often do. After that, once you've reached a certain threshold of votes, it's more difficult to tell. But even if you have a few hundred votes you can tell if you're paying close attention and the drop is clear enough.

 

[SimonDoom]

Also, it's VERY clear that there is a phenomenon in which a small but determined band of 1-bombers wait shortly after the publication of the story and drop their bombs. One can tell that is happening. I can. This phenomenon lets up after the first 12 hours. The first 12 hours is when the most gaming happens when it comes to voting.

 

[lovecraft68]

Speaking for myself, I sometimes know I've been 1-bombed because the bomber tells me. Something to the effect, "You suck. 1 star."

It's not difficult to tell you've been 1-bombed within the first 24 hours if you pay close attention, which I often do. After that, once you've reached a certain threshold of votes, it's more difficult to tell. But even if you have a few hundred votes you can tell if you're paying close attention and the drop is clear enough.

I've always found it interesting that even when you have a high number of votes, a bomb can take you down, even if its just .01 then it takes a good number of 5's to get that percentage back.

I have a story that has 23K+ votes, I have still seen it drop over the last few months, but again, it takes a crazy number of good votes to make that drop up.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I've always found it interesting that even when you have a high number of votes, a bomb can take you down, even if its just .01 then it takes a good number of 5's to get that percentage back.

I have a story that has 23K+ votes, I have still seen it drop over the last few months, but again, it takes a crazy number of good votes to make that drop up.

If my maths is right, you need seven 5-votes to maintain a 4.5 average after one 1-vote.
To maintain a 4.9 average you need thirty-eight.
I'm amazed, regardless of quality, anyone ever manages it.

 

[lovecraft68]

If my maths is right, you need seven 5-votes to maintain a 4.5 average after one 1-vote.
To maintain a 4.9 average you need thirty-eight.
I'm amazed, regardless of quality, anyone ever manages it.

There's exceptions, but stories that usually hit 4.9 or better and maintain it generally tend to be high chapters in endless series because by then only the dedicated readership is voting and they'll five a blank page at that point. Sci-fi being the biggest example.

 

[TheRedChamber]

There's exceptions, but stories that usually hit 4.9 or better and maintain it generally tend to be high chapters in endless series because by then only the dedicated readership is voting and they'll five a blank page at that point. Sci-fi being the biggest example.

Yes, a lot of getting the really high scores is not so much about making most people happy as making sure you don't make a few people unhappy.