Oh give me a fucking brake Mr. Republican Party

[sunstruck]

So Kerry called Republican's crooked liars.

Have you SEEN campaign advertisements? They all call the opposing party lying, crooked thieves. So he removed the metaphor and subtext and got caught saying the actual words.

George W. IS a crooked liar. They're really going to get into such a huff just because someone said it out loud?

 

[badasschick]

They're really going to get into such a huff just because someone said it out loud?

I'm Black and I'm proud?

 

[catfish]

Both sides are lying, cheating, stealing bastards who will prostitute themselves for votes....this actually reminds me of the line from Apocolypse Now " Charging someone with murder in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500."

 

[busybody..]

Desperation Time Already?
Hey, John Kerry finally said something that wasn't nuanced! After a speech in Chicago, Kerry said this to a supporter: "Let me tell you, we've just begun to fight. We're going to keep pounding. These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen. It's scary."

Oh yeah? Well at least they're not haughty and French-looking!

We're actually not sure it was Kerry, rather than his interlocutor, who said "It's scary," but in either case it plays right into the stereotypes of liberals as wimps. You can almost imagine tough-guy Kerry installing night lights in the presidential bedroom to ward off the right-wing monsters.

Blogger John Ellis contrasts Kerry's comments with Bill Clinton's 1996 acceptance speech:

First, let us consider how to proceed. Again I say the question is no longer who's to blame, but what to do.

I believe that Bob Dole and Jack Kemp and Ross Perot love our country, and they have worked hard to serve it. It is legitimate, even necessary, to compare our record with theirs, our proposals for the future with theirs. And I expect them to make a vigorous effort to do the same.

But I will not attack. I will not attack them personally or permit others to do it in this party if I can prevent it.

My fellow Americans, this must be--this must be a campaign of ideas, not a campaign of insults. The American people deserve it.

We cite this not to praise Clinton, who proved quite capable of fighting dirty when the need arose. But it's telling that Kerry is running such a grubby little campaign whereas Clinton took the high road eight years ago. In 1996 Clinton was running from a position of strength; the tenor of Kerry's campaign tells us he's in a position of weakness, this week's polls notwithstanding. James Lileks puts the Kerry outburst in perspective:

People say all sorts of things in elections. The underlings and infantry fire the cheap shots, and let the big dogs lope along the high road. But when the top officials of the party start slinging the slander, we've entered a different era. And no one seems to notice, because the story becomes the charge, not the nature of the accusation.

Accusing one's opponent of treason is a personal attack. Al Gore accused Bush of "betraying this country." Reasonable people could say he misled the country, or misruled the country, and make the argument to support the assertion, but "betrayed" is a word that has a special quality when talking about the President of the United States. I've heard General Wesley Clark question the President's patriotism, and insist that his religious beliefs were misguided, because the Democratic Party is the party that truly hews to Christian doctrines. . . . And of course we heard Governor Dean insert the "Bush was warned" meme into the body politic.

There's nothing comparable on the other side. Nothing. I mean, the Bush team runs an ad that has a second of 9/11 footage, and his opponents pitch a carefully staged fit--because that's all they have.

Indeed. Kerry can't very well wage a "campaign of ideas" when he has no ideas other than to raise taxes (the topic of the speech that preceded his "crooked, lying" remark). Actually, let's amend that: Kerry can't campaign on ideas because he's on every side of just about every issue. It calls to mind Groucho Marx: "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."

It appears that Kerry, like Howard Dean, is all hate and no cattle. This was fine during the primary campaign, when candidates could assume, not without reason, that they were facing an electorate blinded by its loathing for the president. But this stuff is going to get very tiresome over the next eight months.

 

[PottyMouth]

Give me a BREAK....not brake.

Brake is what you have on your car to make you go STOP!!

 

[TWB]

Stop.

You are scaring me.

I think I might actually agree with Sunstruck.

Pinch me.

 

[Angel]

Stop.

You are scaring me.

I think I might actually agree with Sunstruck.

Pinch me.

I had to quote it before hell froze over and the post shattered.

 

[Weevil]

I believe that Bob Dole and Jack Kemp and Ross Perot love our country, and they have worked hard to serve it. It is legitimate, even necessary, to compare our record with theirs, our proposals for the future with theirs. And I expect them to make a vigorous effort to do the same.

But I will not attack. I will not attack them personally or permit others to do it in this party if I can prevent it.

Boy that served Clinton well during his second term, didn't it?

Don't be too surprised that Democrats are going to be playing by GOP rules from here on out.

 

[sunstruck]

I had to quote it before hell froze over and the post shattered.

Too late. That happened last week when I agreed with bratcat.

 

[bluntforcemama]

Kerry is only saying what most moderate democrats have been saying for the last three years. Because Kerry said what he did, I now have more respect for the man than I did before. He's human, whereas George is a puppet.

 

[TWB]

I had to quote it before hell froze over and the post shattered.

*chuckle*


I don't edit that much.

 

[TWB]

Too late. That happened last week when I agreed with bratcat.

'Cept she hasn't posted in over a year.

Oh well, there I go not being able to agree with her again. It was a hell of a streak, Sunny.

 

[Eating_Scarlett]

Give me a BREAK....not brake.

Brake is what you have on your car to make you go STOP!!

She's Irish, leave her alone.

 

[Elmer Keith]

Kerry is only saying what most moderate democrats have been saying for the last three years. Because Kerry said what he did, I now have more respect for the man than I did before. He's human, whereas George is a puppet.

Moderate?

 

[Angel]

*chuckle*


I don't edit that much.

I didn't say anything about editing. I meant what I said literally

 

[revelator]

Well, as my favorite saying goes . . .


If you can't take their money,
and drink their booze,
and fuck their women,
and still vote against their issues,

you don't need to be in politics.








I suspect Kerry's "wardrobe malfunction" was about as unplanned as Rod Paige's "terrorist" comment. It sent a message to the Pubs - "bring it on, boys" - and to the Dems - "we're not sitting back."

I have actually been pretty impressed with how Kerry's campaign has handled shots from the Republicans. He's got a pretty good organization taking it right back to them.

Now he's got to get his positive message out there.

 

[bluntforcemama]

Moderate?

I consider myself a moderate. If George can piss off the moderates, than surely the more left-wingers among us are thrilled with Kerry's remarks.

 

[sunstruck]

I suspect Kerry's "wardrobe malfunction" was about as unplanned as Rod Paige's "terrorist" comment. It sent a message to the Pubs - "bring it on, boys" - and to the Dems - "we're not sitting back."

I have actually been pretty impressed with how Kerry's campaign has handled shots from the Republicans. He's got a pretty good organization taking it right back to them.

Now he's got to get his positive message out there.

I agree. I think he has good people behind him, and that is extremely important when considering a candidate.

 

[TWB]

I didn't say anything about editing. I meant what I said literally

I don't know if I believe in hell, nevermind it freezing, but glad you could do so before hell did freeze.

 

[revelator]

I agree. I think he has good people behind him, and that is extremely important when considering a candidate.

For a guy who doesn't have a lot of money to spend, he's figured out how to stay in the spin cycle.

Now, if he'll just take my advice and choose Sam Nunn for Veep, this thing is all over and Shrub can take Mollie Ivins out to lunch in Austin on January 21st . . .





oh, yeah - loverly av

 

[Eating_Scarlett]

I keep getting the image of "Mr. Republican Party" handing Sunstruck the brakes ripped out of someones car whenever I read this thread title.

 

[Elmer Keith]

"loverly"

 

[Elmer Keith]

Want to stop your car? Step on the break.

 

[badasschick]

each time I pass by this thread I have to hold myself back from making Kurtis Blow references.

 

[Eating_Scarlett]

Re: Re: Oh give me a fucking brake Mr. Republican Party

Want to stop your car? Step on the break.

Cool. First I must have brakefast.