Oh dear Lord, not another!

[voluptuary_manque]

Sir Ian Carmichael is dead. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8502006.stm

 

[ishtat]

I didn't realise IC was ever knighted but he should have been for the pleasure he gave to so many.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I didn't realise IC was ever knighted but he should have been for the pleasure he gave to so many.

An OBE. I think that's a knighthood, no?

 

[ishtat]

MBE, OBE, CBE, knighthood in order of gradation I think . Og would know for sure.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

MBE, OBE, CBE, knighthood in order of gradation I think . Og would know for sure.

I sent him a PM to be sure. I would guess "knighthood-ish", then?

 

[Handley_Page]

I sent him a PM to be sure. I would guess "knighthood-ish", then?

Only the top two ranks of the order are Knights. (Knight Grand Cross, Knight Commander). The OBE is not a knighted rank. However, these awards are made to recognise some meritorious service to some discipline or other (The Theatre, Music, etc.,).

Ian Carmichael was probably the best Lord Peter Wimsey ever to be heard. So straight, so unadulteratedly English. He's going to be missed.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Only the top two ranks of the order are Knights. (Knight Grand Cross, Knight Commander). The OBE is not a knighted rank. However, these awards are made to recognise some meritorious service to some discipline or other (The Theatre, Music, etc.,).

Ian Carmichael was probably the best Lord Peter Wimsey ever to be heard. So straight, so unadulteratedly English. He's going to be missed.

According to P G Wodehouse, he was the best Bertie Wooster, as well. And his version of Ratty in Wind in the Willows is impeccable.

 

[Handley_Page]

According to P G Wodehouse, he was the best Bertie Wooster, as well. And his version of Ratty in Wind in the Willows is impeccable.

How very true.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

blah. blah. blah.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

An OBE. I think that's a knighthood, no?

No, in the UK orders of chivalry (!) only the 'K' is a sir.

MBE - Member of the British Empire is the lowest.
OBE - Order of the BE, is next. (What Ian Carmichael got).
then CBE - Commander of the BE - all these just give you initials to put after your name - like 'voluptuary_manque OBE'.

Then, finally, KBE, Knight Commander of the BE .That's 'Sir voluptuary_manque'.

Same goes for the other orders of chivalry.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Thank-you for that. Thus anything below Knight Commander is merely 'knight-ish' after all. Yanno, living in a republic may be simpler but it certainly isn't as colorful!

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Thank-you for that. Thus anything below Knight Commander is merely 'knight-ish' after all. Yanno, living in a republic may be simpler but it certainly isn't as colorful!

True. How's about, 'the Right Honorable the Lord Voluptuary_Manque PC, OM, QC. We needed the Tea Party - not the modern one!

 

[voluptuary_manque]

True. How's about, 'the Right Honorable the Lord Voluptuary_Manque PC, OM, QC. We needed the Tea Party - not the modern one!

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/1volupturary_manque/allhail.gif


The next county north of Los Angeles is Ventura. Somehow the title Voluptuary_Manque', Count Venture, has just the right panache, no?

 

[oggbashan]

An old joke about the Order of St Michael and St George was re-told in Yes Prime Minister to explain what the various post-nominals stand for.

Woolley: In the service, CMG stands for "Call Me God". And KCMG for "Kindly Call Me God".

Hacker: What does GCMG stand for?

Woolley: "God Calls Me God".

CMG is Companion; KCMG is Knight Companion = Knight and therefore called "Sir"; GCMG is Grand Cross Knight senior to Knight but still called "Sir".

Og

 

[Handley_Page]

I think I've got it:-


Baronet Voluptuary-Manque of Ventura. CDM, KCOStP
Sir Sidney Voluptuary-Manque, Bart.

 

[oggbashan]

I think I've got it:-


Baronet Voluptuary-Manque of Ventura. CDM, KCOStP
Sir Sidney Voluptuary-Manque, Bart.

The problem with that suggestion is that all Baronets, since Gilbert and Sullivan's Comic Opera Ruddigore are expected to be Bad Baronets.

Is Sir Sidney Voluptuary-Manque sufficiently bad? As the plot of Ruddigore states: "The ghosts of previous Bad Baronets are not pleased to learn that the newly-recognised baronet's crimes range from the ridiculous (forging his own will) to the ubiquitous (filing a false income tax return "Nothing at all", say the ghosts, "Everybody does that. It's expected of you.")".

Og

 

[oggbashan]

Back to Ian Carmichael OBE:

I enjoyed his portrayal of Lord Peter Wimsey in the TV versions of Dorothy Sayers' novels.

He brought off the right blend of upper-class parody with a serious purpose to crime detection. Lord Peter is a difficult role to take because Dorothy Sayers wasn't wholly consistent about the character.

Ian Carmicheal balanced the contradictions beautifully and the others in the cast interacted with him almost to perfection. That series is worth seeing again and again, and thanks to DVD we can.

Og