off-beat tagging?

[ApricationZeal]

Just a quick question about tagging. I notice 'impregnation' is a tag available under the 'tags' listing. My mind is fluffy sometimes, and I thought for my work (that features this in the specific chapter) that I would tag it as 'baby-making sex'. The work was approved (thanks!) but the tag was removed, rather than changed to impregnation or similar.
Just curious if there was some guideline I missed so I can be more consistent. I would be alright with a more standard tag, but idk I guess I just want to know what I can and can't do.

 

[alohadave]

Most likely because it had 'baby' in it.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yeah, best to use the tags from the list than make up your own. I just wish we had a list that said what the most searched tags were rather than the most used tags by writers.

 

[ApricationZeal]

Lesson learned then. Thanks for the response =) I'll submit an edit after the fact to add the tag in.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Other than the possible issue of "baby" violating the underage rule, think of tags as a means of helping others search for and find your story.

How many people are like to search for "baby-making sex"?

I read a story with tags which included words in the story such as names like "Zelda". Now who is going to search for stories about "Zelda"?

 

[pink_silk_glove]

If a tag is illegal it should tell you before you submit, no? I have had this happen once. The tag was mot allowed so it just gave me a red warning and would not add it to the list like right away.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I read a story with tags which included words in the story such as names like "Zelda". Now who is going to search for stories about "Zelda"?

Video game fandom.

 

[RejectReality]

Surprised it didn't stop you before you could enter it in the first place. Anything with the string "baby" in it used to be a forbidden tag. You could type it, but it would never add it to your list of tags. It would pop up a warning instead.

Are you sure you didn't just miss the warning and assume the tag had gone through? Because you can go straight ahead and type your next tag as if nothing happened.

 

[KeithD]

I don't look at the suggested tag list when making tags. Thus, probably few other than I can find my stories in keyword search. I'll not lose sleep over that.

 

[ApricationZeal]

So, a few people have said "it should warn you"
I made another draft and saved it with the same tag, no warning.
You can do the same and see for yourself. no warning.

 

[RejectReality]

So, a few people have said "it should warn you"
I made another draft and saved it with the same tag, no warning.
You can do the same and see for yourself. no warning.

Must have been an oversight in an update to the submission wizard... Or maybe they just got tired of fielding questions about why the tags weren't allowed, and silently remove them after the fact instead. I would imagine few people pay attention to what tags end up getting published.

"Rape" and any variation are going to get nuked as well. May not be information you would ever need, but sometimes people find these threads while searching for answers, and it might be useful information for them.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Must have been an oversight in an update to the submission wizard... Or maybe they just got tired of fielding questions about why the tags weren't allowed, and silently remove them after the fact instead. I would imagine few people pay attention to what tags end up getting published.

Or they've had people deliberately circumventing the ban by coming up with substitute tags. Silent removal would make it harder to do that, since you can't just keep using the submission form to test options and get an instant yes/no. But it would also make it more of a problem in cases where the filter is accidentally blocking something that shouldn't be banned.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Other than the possible issue of "baby" violating the underage rule, think of tags as a means of helping others search for and find your story.

How many people are like to search for "baby-making sex"?

I read a story with tags which included words in the story such as names like "Zelda". Now who is going to search for stories about "Zelda"?

Expanding on what @pink_silk_glove said: "Legend of Zelda" is a very popular video game franchise, often abbreviated to just "Zelda". Almost all of the stories tagged "Zelda" look to be referencing that franchise.

That said, I'm guessing the one you read was this one which is an exception. It looks to be just the name of a character in the story, with no connection to the franchise.

Some of the other tags on that story are weird too. "kentucky", "genealogy" and "no fault" are all mentioned in the story but hardly major themes. About the only one that's likely to be useful to a reader is "narcissism" (valid, since it's about a narcissist who doesn't realise he's a narcissist).

Maybe that author just isn't very good at tagging, or perhaps it's an auto-tagging snafu?

 

[Bamagan]

Given that the site is starting to beta-test the new story cards that include the tags (if any), there's a stronger case to be made for including one or two weird ones in the mix. Common tags like cheating or femdom or breast expansion can still serve their accustomed purpose in bringing searchers to particular general content, but the intrigue value of a tag that seems inexplicable (sex in plaster, breast lasers) might draw the curious to one story over another.
That being said, 'genealogy' does not seem like a good tag regardless. Unless it's some kind of specialty incest fetish I'm unfamiliar with.

 

[Bramblethorn]

That being said, 'genealogy' does not seem like a good tag regardless. Unless it's some kind of specialty incest fetish I'm unfamiliar with.

No, the protag has an interest in genealogy which gets mentioned a couple of times as evidence for him being a boring person. If anything it's an anti-genealogy story!

 

[MillieDynamite]

You can use Mystery but not Murder Mystery or plain old murder. I'm not sure you can have a title with murder in it, either. Never tried it, but Murder in a title tells you what it's about right off.

 

[RejectReality]

You can use Mystery but not Murder Mystery or plain old murder. I'm not sure you can have a title with murder in it, either. Never tried it, but Murder in a title tells you what it's about right off.

The tag restrictions haven't applied to titling. There have been a plethora of stories with babysitter in the title/description even though the tag has always been blocked in the past.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Thanks for the info!!!!

 

[CarmineBlancheJr]

Other than the possible issue of "baby" violating the underage rule, think of tags as a means of helping others search for and find your story.

How many people are like to search for "baby-making sex"?

I read a story with tags which included words in the story such as names like "Zelda". Now who is going to search for stories about "Zelda"?

I guess that they could have also used, in order to avoid the flag for the word "Baby" a tag like, "Sex-That-Leads-To-a-Comically-Outlandish-Child-Support-Payment".

 

[AG31]

Given that the site is starting to beta-test the new story cards that include the tags (if any), there's a stronger case to be made for including one or two weird ones in the mix. Common tags like cheating or femdom or breast expansion can still serve their accustomed purpose in bringing searchers to particular general content, but the intrigue value of a tag that seems inexplicable (sex in plaster, breast lasers) might draw the curious to one story over another.
That being said, 'genealogy' does not seem like a good tag regardless. Unless it's some kind of specialty incest fetish I'm unfamiliar with.

@Erozetta put me on to the idea of searching for "weird" tags. But right now there's no way to see what weird tags are out there unless they are single use tags. One that I was interested in appeared 16 times, as revealed by a search, but you'd never know to look at stories with that tag if you hadn't thought of it already.

 

[Bamagan]

@Erozetta put me on to the idea of searching for "weird" tags. But right now there's no way to see what weird tags are out there unless they are single use tags. One that I was interested in appeared 16 times, as revealed by a search, but you'd never know to look at stories with that tag if you hadn't thought of it already.

As I said, the site is currently beta-testing new story cards (the box of information you see about the stories on profiles, category hubs, etc.). The new versions are intended to display all tags, assuming the story has any (or unless one selects the simplified view which hides that information). So when those are available, it will be easier to find weird tags, at least when the author has used some of the common ones as well.

 

[AG31]

As I said, the site is currently beta-testing new story cards (the box of information you see about the stories on profiles, category hubs, etc.). The new versions are intended to display all tags, assuming the story has any (or unless one selects the simplified view which hides that information). So when those are available, it will be easier to find weird tags, at least when the author has used some of the common ones as well.

I don't understand how this helps. You'd have to look at the story to see its tags, right? It doesn't help in searching for stories, at least the way I'm understanding it.

 

[CarmineBlancheJr]

(sex in plaster, breast lasers) might draw the curious to one story over another.

Breast lasers? You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention!

That's no moon, that the Tit Star!

 

[Bamagan]

I don't understand how this helps. You'd have to look at the story to see its tags, right? It doesn't help in searching for stories, at least the way I'm understanding it.

If you look up a common tag, such as 'first time' or 'college', you will get the list of relevant results as normal. But, in the new story card format, the tags will be displayed along with the title, blurb, rating, etc. You won't need to click on the story to see those anymore. So, any weird tags that got lumped in with the common ones will be immediately visible, rather than hidden until you open the story and select the tab that displays them.

 

[AG31]

Yeah, but you still have to peruse a list of stories to see the weird tags. Right? Not visible in the list of <almost> all tags.