Obama's legacy

[AlwaysHungry]

I think that many people who voted for Obama felt strongly that there would be an important symbolism in having, for the first time, elected an African-American to the presidency. I think they were wrong. I think that the end result is much more along the lines of what Wanda Sykes said, that if he screws up, he will be remembered as America's first half-white president.

Obama has done nothing for people of color. The two Wall Street stooges whom he nominated for the post of Attorney General were nominally black, but then, so were Clarence Thomas and Condoleeza Rice.

For humanity at large and for future historians, Obama will be remembered as the president who finished the job of destroying the Middle East, which has been a long-term project. It picked up steam under George W. Bush, with the senseless invasion of Iraq.

In 2010 we saw the misnamed "Arab Spring," which policy dunderheads in Washington hoped would be an opportunity to re-shape the political landscape of the region, much as the British and French did with the Sykes-Picot Agreement 100 years ago. Obama hungered for a chance to prove his mettle as a British-style imperial overlord, and so he massively escalated the drone terror and the covert ops, spending money like a drunken sailor on quasi-Islamic mercenaries for "regime change" purposes and unleashing chaos in nation after nation. This is Obama's legacy:

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[NOIRTRASH]

Obama is the black Jimmy Carter.

 

[renard_ruse]

All Obama has done is push a Black Power agenda for the past 7 years.

He's more or less openly Black Power in his policies (even though he's only half black).

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wow. We wish Renard. We wish.

 

[sr71plt]

I think Obama will be remembered as a powerful speaker and elegant figure who did the United States proud in the world, remained hopeful and ready to serve when and as his jackal detractors let him without responding to them in kind. If anything, history will, I think, remember him as a lost opportunity for the United States and Americans to be the best that they could be--an opportunity that was lost by the vile undercurrent that runs through this nation. He will, no doubt, be a classy gentleman to the end of his term in office and far beyond.

I'm sure whoever up the line posted that he would be the black Jimmy Carter didn't mean it as a compliment, but it was. Of all our recent presidents, Jimmy Carter has been most human, selfless, and honorable in the years since he served. We'll all be lucky--far beyond what we deserve because of how we treated him and his family--if Obama does, indeed, become the black Jimmy Carter.

(And I haven't been the biggest fan of Obama. I think he missed his best opportunity too by jumping the gun and pushing to be president before he had the experience needed to go with his innate talent.)

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Obama is the black Jimmy Carter.

Huh? Carter had his problems, but naked aggression was not his style. Obama seeks to prove his manliness by picking completely unnecessary fights with Russia and China, fights which could spin out of control to the point of a nuclear exchange.

All Obama has done is push a Black Power agenda for the past 7 years.

He's more or less openly Black Power in his policies (even though he's only half black).

Huh? That's just plain ridiculous.

Of all our recent presidents, Jimmy Carter has been most human, selfless, and honorable in the years since he served.

I am always surprised when I agree with you, but it does happen. Carter was terrible as president, but he gets better and better with age.

Of course, I suspect that you like Obama for the same reason you like Hillary -- they are blood-crazed neo-cons who yearn to be British. This is possibly the most nauseating thing I have heard Obama say yet:

"The queen's been a source of inspiration for me like so many people around the world. She is truly one of my favorite people." (from a few days ago.)

 

[sr71plt]

The queen's an inspiration for me as well. She's hit 90 and can still walk, and, with every passing day, it doesn't look like I'm going to get nearly that far.

 

[urguyscott]

I think Obama will be remembered as a powerful speaker and elegant figure who did the United States proud in the world, remained hopeful and ready to serve when and as his jackal detractors let him without responding to them in kind. If anything, history will, I think, remember him as a lost opportunity for the United States and Americans to be the best that they could be--an opportunity that was lost by the vile undercurrent that runs through this nation. He will, no doubt, be a classy gentleman to the end of his term in office and far beyond."QUOTE



Obama has always been a weak president who doesn't believe in human rights. His back ground in Africa and Chicago molded him into an anti American, anti civil rights, and human rights politician. The first thing he did in office is make a "kiss the dictators ass" tour. Every one of them laughed at him and showed their disrespect because they only respect strength. He destroyed the middle east, lost us the war, his weakness and love of the terrorist who he still refuses to recognize for what they are, has made many thousands homeless (which is what Soros wanted in his "open border") many many more slaves (and his racists attitudes here in the states shows you what he things of equal rights and human rights) and caused the murdeer of so many thousand more. He and Clinton and Kerry have shown that they not only are people without class or moral feelings, but have even made it so that our allies are punished and our enemies rewarded. As far as the undercurrent you mention, that is all Obama. He only uses those members of Congress who are as corrupt and anti Freedom as he (Princess Nancy and Cow rustler Reedy among others) who even when they had the majority in both houses did nothing. And what little they did do like Obama Care was a lie (Obama admitted he lied about everything on Obama Care) and that lie included people in his own party so to keep them from reading the bill and discussing it on the floor of Congress.



QUOTE"I'm sure whoever up the line posted that he would be the black Jimmy Carter didn't mean it as a compliment, but it was. Of all our recent presidents, Jimmy Carter has been most human, selfless, and honorable in the years since he served. We'll all be lucky--far beyond what we deserve because of how we treated him and his family--if Obama does, indeed, become the black Jimmy Carter."QUOTE

Jimmy Carter was a weak president who gave in to a dictator and surrendered the Panama Canal to. His policies are pro left. It is an insult to say someone is like him. I do agree with you when you say he has been honorable and human as all the former presidents have except of course Buba Clinton. Now there is a man who comes only second to Obama as being the worst of the presidents. Even worst than the one before Lincoln whose failures got us into a civil war.


QUOTE"(And I haven't been the biggest fan of Obama. I think he missed his best opportunity too by jumping the gun and pushing to be president before he had the experience needed to go with his innate talent.)"QUOTE


Obama was picked by the left wing pot smoked back room politicians. He never made a stand or had any real leadership roles. He was told not to vote in the Senate and his record of being a ballot box stuffier and his racist views were kept as quiet as possible. Try and name one of his administration that has not been accused of corruption or incompetence or as a failure or petty dictator? He is controlled by them not them by him. Oh he has a big head, like the former "President" of Iran who actually thought he was in control and not the Cult Leader who thinks he is God. His and Clinton's and Trump's leader Soros got upset with him for taking himself too serious and not following orders. I am sure that Clinton, who has proven to be even worst and more corrupt than Obama, would have gotten rid of him if he somehow stayed on longer. He is only qualified to be a corrupt Chicago Alderman. Like his friend the Mayor of Chicago he would be dirty and ruin any city like his people did Detroit, but still that is all he talent would cover. Even that I think he would make a mess of doing.

He cares nothing about the environment, nothing about the safety of the citizens, nothing about a world free of inhuman dictators. He is a friend of Russia, China and the various terrorist of the Middle East. He let N.K. and Iran have the bomb and those jerks are just crazy enough to use it some day. He has deserted our allies and millions of people in the world for money just as Clinton has. No he will go down as Buba the sex offender and Wall Street Whore Hillary as the people who destroyed the United States and human rights in the world. That is what history will say.

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)

That is what history will say.

Only in Texas schoolbooks.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

And now Obama is issuing new moronic ultimata to the government of Syria. He and his bevy of neo-con witches really get bent out of shape when people in foreign countries vote for the wrong candidates in elections. People who vote for the wrong candidates clearly don't understand democracy. At any rate, it looks like our government will now be supplying MANPAD surface-to-air missiles to the ISIS® family of terrorists, so that they can shoot down Russian planes and hopefully start a world war (I don't know what urguyscott has been smoking when he says Obama is a friend of Russia and China. If he were, I'd support him.)

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

I think Obama will be remembered as a powerful speaker and elegant figure who did the United States proud in the world, remained hopeful and ready to serve when and as his jackal detractors let him without responding to them in kind. If anything, history will, I think, remember him as a lost opportunity for the United States and Americans to be the best that they could be--an opportunity that was lost by the vile undercurrent that runs through this nation. He will, no doubt, be a classy gentleman to the end of his term in office and far beyond.

I'm sure whoever up the line posted that he would be the black Jimmy Carter didn't mean it as a compliment, but it was. Of all our recent presidents, Jimmy Carter has been most human, selfless, and honorable in the years since he served. We'll all be lucky--far beyond what we deserve because of how we treated him and his family--if Obama does, indeed, become the black Jimmy Carter.

(And I haven't been the biggest fan of Obama. I think he missed his best opportunity too by jumping the gun and pushing to be president before he had the experience needed to go with his innate talent.)

Actually, the Jug-Eared Jackass has been one of the worst in history.
He will leave the country with many more serious problems than we had when he bamboozled his way into office seven years ago.

Good riddance to he and Michelle.

 

[sr71plt]

Actually, the Jug-Eared Jackass has been one of the worst in history.
He will leave the country with many more serious problems than we had when he bamboozled his way into office seven years ago.

Good riddance to he and Michelle.

You don't remember too well, do you? He, in fact, will have left us in better condition on every front than what he inherited from Bush the Lesser--check it out, especially the economy--and he could have done so much more if he hadn't had a "just say no" Congress for most of his time in office--a "just say no" Congress, I might add which is the reason the electorate is giving us a "just say no" election cycle this time. That it is is no fault of Obama's--and certainly not of Michelle who has been a lovely First Lady performing a well-balanced role in the nation (without pay). They have both been a classy, elegant pair. I don't doubt that the contrast will be quite evident whoever replaces them in the White House.

Being a racist and being too embarrassed to admit it is just your own problem.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Compared to the moronic war criminal in power before Obama, an untrained donkey would look good.

As American Presidents go, he is not half bad.

And if by some catastrophic eventuality Trump gets in, Obama will be a shining beacon in comparison to those preceding and following him. He might even rate higher than Billy's wife should she get in.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

You don't remember too well, do you? He, in fact, will have left us in better condition on every front than what he inherited from Bush the Lesser--check it out, especially the economy--

Utter BS. I don't think any of the people who repeat this mantra really believe it. There is not much difference between Bush and Obama, policy wise, but because more time has elapsed, the insane policies have made the US even more bankrupt and predatory under Obama (the drama around the TPP is just too disgusting.)

Being a racist and being too embarrassed to admit it is just your own problem.

Unless you have some evidence that Ubiquitious_too is motivated by racism, that insinuation is truly reprehensible in addition to being sadly lame.

 

[sr71plt]

Anytime one of you slam Michelle, I know it's racism--because she's been a fine, low-key First Lady.

You'll just have to live with yourself and your hatred. I don't have to deal with you on it. You lost. He was voted into office--twice--and has done as good a job as he could with the rabid "just say no" Congress he was dealt with. He, in fact, has done better and come through it as a classy man better than I thought he would. I thought (and posted to this forum) from the beginning that he was grabbing for the office too early--that he'd be a better president with more experience before he took it on. I think he would have, but that, in any event, he was a better president than we are likely to get for a while.

You and others can just stew in your juice over this. The stats on "better than the Bush the Lesser's administration" (I say that because I was just fine with Papa Bush's administration) are there for anyone to see. We're coming out of the economic situation of the Bush administration (which I don't blame Bush wholly for) and, as of today's report, have six straight months of jobs increase (which the Bush administration never achieved). And, although we're at war--we're no where near the "at war" conditions we were in under the Bush administration.

The only rationale explanation for the rabid position you and others take on him includes racism. Embrace the reality.

And get stuffed. I see no reason to engage with you on your loser position.

 

[Hard_Rom]

No reason to bring up his wife. Unless you got it in for blacks. Ubi is a known immigrant hater.

 

[urguyscott]

Only in Texas schoolbooks.

Most likely you are correct. Texas is one of the few states that still tells history like it happened and not like a "politically correct" pact of lies like most of our education system. This also explains why our education system is ranked so low in the world because our education system is being run by corrupt politicians and not people in the education field. I think their teachers still know how to write in long hand and do basic math which most of our schools don't teach any more. I am sure the Texans are happy with your kind words and complement.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Most likely you are correct. Texas is one of the few states that still tells history like it happened and not like a "politically correct" pact of lies like most of our education system. This also explains why our education system is ranked so low in the world because our education system is being run by corrupt politicians and not people in the education field. I think their teachers still know how to write in long hand and do basic math which most of our schools don't teach any more. I am sure the Texans are happy with your kind words and complement.

You pretty much have it ass backwards.

 

[ishtat]

When Barrack Obama steps down, it will only be from the Presidency. I reckon he will do a William Taft in a year or two and graciously accept an appointment to the Supreme Court.

I would pay good money to attend the Senate hearings; it would be hilarious to see the ultimate crowd orator Obama serve it up to the Senators who destroyed much of his administration.

Obama has been far from perfect, but I reckon a lot of Congress is gunna learn in the next year or two that what goes around comes around.

Obama on the Supreme court is a bit of a fantasy of mine but he has the best qualifications of any Ex Pres for the last 95 years.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Obama on the Supreme court is a bit of a fantasy of mine but he has the best qualifications of any Ex Pres for the last 95 years.

That's funny, because to me the other enduring part of Obama's legacy, other than causing one of the greatest refugee calamities in modern history, will be his tortured interpretation of the constitution, claiming that he has the authority as president to order the assassination of American citizens without due process. Yes, that's just what we need on the Supreme Court.

 

[Sean]

That's funny, because to me the other enduring part of Obama's legacy, other than causing one of the greatest refugee calamities in modern history, will be his tortured interpretation of the constitution, claiming that he has the authority as president to order the assassination of American citizens without due process. Yes, that's just what we need on the Supreme Court.

The original Patriot Act did that, long before Obama was elected.

 

[Sean]

Most likely you are correct. Texas is one of the few states that still tells history like it happened and not like a "politically correct" pact of lies like most of our education system. This also explains why our education system is ranked so low in the world because our education system is being run by corrupt politicians and not people in the education field. I think their teachers still know how to write in long hand and do basic math which most of our schools don't teach any more. I am sure the Texans are happy with your kind words and complement.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[phrodeau]

That's funny, because to me the other enduring part of Obama's legacy, other than causing one of the greatest refugee calamities in modern history, will be his tortured interpretation of the constitution, claiming that he has the authority as president to order the assassination of American citizens without due process. Yes, that's just what we need on the Supreme Court.

Obama ordered an attack on a known terrorist. And he has kept airplanes from flying into buildings.

 

[JackLuis]

Obama ordered an attack on a known terrorist. And he has kept airplanes from flying into buildings.

He also ordered attacks on what turned out to be weddings and birthday parties, forgot about due process of law and totally fucked up Syria and Libya for no purpose. So I give him a D-, not as bad as "W's" F-+ but not even a C.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Obama ordered an attack on a known terrorist. And he has kept airplanes from flying into buildings.

You sound like a died-in-the-wool right-winger. Historically, in this country, we didn't execute people without first giving them some sort of trial, no matter what they were accused of. And as far as airlines not flying into buildings, exactly how did Obama prevent that? I could just as easily take credit for that myself. Obama, along with Bush, has actually protected the people who were responsible.