Obamaphones is a lie. Why do Republicans keep pushing this lie?

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration.

The Lifeline program only covers monthly discounts on landline or wireless telephone service for eligible consumers. It does not pay cellular companies to provide free cell phones to consumers, although some cellular service providers choose to offer that benefit to their Lifeline customers.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Because people don't normally do much research. And it sounds like something a Democrat would do. A Republican helping the poor? I think you should bury this, let Obama claim it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Because FOX told them to.

 

[richard_daily]

Because people don't normally do much research. And it sounds like something a Democrat would do. A Republican helping the poor? I think you should bury this, let Obama claim it.

Because FOX told them to.

These.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Because FOX told them to.

They do it here on Lit where there's plenty of opportunity to get educated. Then they get educated and go do it again.

I don't see how Fox Noise explains that. Or why Fox Noise keeps perpetuating that shit even though it's been thoroughly debunked.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Here on Lit Hogan is (if he is, I never quite get a solid read on him) and possibly Pereg are the only people to the right of me capable learning and most of them are trolls.

Fox News is damn near known for the number of lies they can pump out in an hour.

 

[richard_daily]

Here on Lit Hogan is (if he is, I never quite get a solid read on him) and possibly Pereg are the only people to the right of me capable learning and most of them are trolls.

Fox News is damn near known for the number of lies they can pump out in an hour.

There used to be a couple of other sensible right wingers, but they are all long gone.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I've heard legend of the reasonable Rightie. But after looking at much of Congress I'm convinced they are the same species a chubacabra. Which would explain why I rarely see them.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I've heard legend of the reasonable Rightie. But after looking at much of Congress I'm convinced they are the same species a chubacabra. Which would explain why I rarely see them.

What's worse is their lies spread like the black plague. Obamaphones is a huge meme. Few people beyond the Left realize it's a lie.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What's worse is their lies spread like the black plague. Obamaphones is a huge meme. Few people beyond the Left realize it's a lie.

I suspect you are giving the Left too much credit. The Left doesn't fear or hate a lot of the things that the Right does. I'd be willing to bet you that a lot of the things that the Right tries to stick to Obama the majority of the center and left simply shrug and go on. Obamaphones, talking to Russians, so on and so forth.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I suspect you are giving the Left too much credit. The Left doesn't fear or hate a lot of the things that the Right does. I'd be willing to bet you that a lot of the things that the Right tries to stick to Obama the majority of the center and left simply shrug and go on. Obamaphones, talking to Russians, so on and so forth.

Then how come, even after all of Mitt Romney's fuckups, Obama only won by what, 5 million? These lies are getting traction.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Then how come, even after all of Mitt Romney's fuckups, Obama only won by what, 5 million? These lies are getting traction.

Lots of reasons. I don't know anybody except my father who voted for example. I suspect margins would be different if folks like me voted but a lot of us simply don't bother.

Couple that with a lot of people think Romney would eliminate Obamaphones. It doesn't really matter who started it so long as someone stops it and Dems aren't exactly the party of the rich.

Dems have a branding problem, it's not the same as Republicans but there is a branding problem none the less.

The best way to sum it up is Obamacare and then tell you to look at all the polls on it. To use an analogy it goes like this.

Everybody: We're hungry!
Dems: Lets order a Pizza!
Republicans: That's socialism!
Everybody: Socialism! BAD!!!
Dems: Fine. Lets get a round piece of bread, cover it in tomato sauce, cheese and then choose some toppings.
Everybody: Sounds good.
Republicans:. . .wait a minute. . .that's a pizza! SOCIALISM!

Until and unless the stigma on that word is lost or a new better word (not progressive, that's already got most of the same taint) takes it's place the same issue is gonna come up.

Though folks like me and my brothers not voting probably doesn't help but no state where a sibling I have lives in has gone red in decades.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Lots of reasons. I don't know anybody except my father who voted for example. I suspect margins would be different if folks like me voted but a lot of us simply don't bother.

Couple that with a lot of people think Romney would eliminate Obamaphones. It doesn't really matter who started it so long as someone stops it and Dems aren't exactly the party of the rich.

Dems have a branding problem, it's not the same as Republicans but there is a branding problem none the less.

The best way to sum it up is Obamacare and then tell you to look at all the polls on it. To use an analogy it goes like this.

Everybody: We're hungry!
Dems: Lets order a Pizza!
Republicans: That's socialism!
Everybody: Socialism! BAD!!!
Dems: Fine. Lets get a round piece of bread, cover it in tomato sauce, cheese and then choose some toppings.
Everybody: Sounds good.
Republicans:. . .wait a minute. . .that's a pizza! SOCIALISM!

Until and unless the stigma on that word is lost or a new better word (not progressive, that's already got most of the same taint) takes it's place the same issue is gonna come up.

Though folks like me and my brothers not voting probably doesn't help but no state where a sibling I have lives in has gone red in decades.

Democrats have a lack-of-spine problem.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Democrats have a lack-of-spine problem.

This as well. However that's not a Republican marketing is working so much as Democrats making lots of fairly simple and stupid mistakes.

 

[Liar]

What's worse is their lies spread like the black plague. Obamaphones is a huge meme. Few people beyond the Left realize it's a lie.

There's your answer.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Until and unless the stigma on that word is lost or a new better word (not progressive, that's already got most of the same taint) takes it's place the same issue is gonna come up.

LMAO good luck with that....you can hack it up a million ways but anything where you tell people the government knows how to better spend their money better than they do and to hand it all over, is going to get called socialism and laughed at.

You could call it "Thegreatestthingeverism" and as soon as you smile and say 70% tax rate, "thegreatestthingeverism" will just be another label to stick on top of all the other recreations of "Givemeallyourmoneyism" .

 

[mercury14]

Fox News and the rest of the right wing media decided to stoke racial fears among white conservatives, and being very gullible people they were instantly duped. Facts never change how they see the world.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Is the government giving out free cell phones?

Yes. This part is true. They fund low end cell phones plans, and offset some of the cost of landline phones. The programs that authorize the phone distribution program are called Lifeline Assistance and Lifeline Link-Up. Lifeline Assistance helps pay monthly phone bills and Lifeline Link-Up helps pay the initial outlay for the phone and installation. The two programs are often lumped together and simply called Lifeline.

These Lifeline cell phones are delivered through relatively new, government-approved cell phone companies like Safelink Wireless, Assurance Wireless and Reachout Wireless, among others. These companies were spun of off larger prepaid cell phone companies to specialize in the Lifeline program.

Did Obama start the free phones program?

The cell phone distribution program did begin in 2008, the year Obama was elected president, but that is a coincidence. Let’s look more closely at the facts.


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The program in Ohio cost $26.9 million in the first quarter of 2012, the most recent data available, versus $15.6 million in the same timeframe in 2011. Compared to the first quarter of 2011, the number of people in the program nearly doubled to more than a million.

Growth could cost everyone who owns a phone. The program is funded through the “Universal Service Fund” charge on phone bills — usually a dollar or two per bill — and the amount of the fee is determined by the cost of this and other programs.

A growth of $100 million in this program could result in an increased fee of a few cents on the average bill, according to officials from the agency that administers the program. The total cost of the program nationwide was $1.5 billion in 2011, up from $1.1 billion in 2010.

Growth in the program is fed by the 2008 decision to extend it to prepaid cellphone companies, which get up to $10 every month that someone is subscribed. The number of cellphone companies offering the service in Ohio grew from four in 2011 to nine currently, with seven more awaiting approval from the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio.

I think it is the growth, Obamacare and the debt his government keeps accumulating.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Fox News and the rest of the right wing media decided to stoke racial fears among white conservatives, and being very gullible people they were instantly duped. Facts never change how they see the world.

Bitch please...MSN could say the sky was pink and you would be in here backing it up and linking the MSN article and telling us how Dear Leader made it so and can do no wrong!!!

Just as fast as Vet will make a C&P thread about how Obama's rejection of oatmeal for breakfast may have well been the greatest insult to and degradation of the constitution and threat to the american way of life that ever existed to reply to your equally bat fucking shit left wing DNC dick sucking noises you come on the GB to make.

 

[mercury14]

Is the government giving out free cell phones?

Yes. This part is true. They fund low end cell phones plans, and offset some of the cost of landline phones. The programs that authorize the phone distribution program are called Lifeline Assistance and Lifeline Link-Up. Lifeline Assistance helps pay monthly phone bills and Lifeline Link-Up helps pay the initial outlay for the phone and installation. The two programs are often lumped together and simply called Lifeline.

These Lifeline cell phones are delivered through relatively new, government-approved cell phone companies like Safelink Wireless, Assurance Wireless and Reachout Wireless, among others. These companies were spun of off larger prepaid cell phone companies to specialize in the Lifeline program.

Did Obama start the free phones program?

The cell phone distribution program did begin in 2008, the year Obama was elected president, but that is a coincidence. Let’s look more closely at the facts.

I think it is the growth, Obamacare and the debt his government keeps accumulating.

So basically you're admitting it was a right-wing lie to dupe stupid conservatives who will willfully believe any amount of horse pucky and lies if it makes Obama look bad? A rare admission of guilt on AJ's part.

 

[mercury14]

Bitch please...MSN could say the sky was pink and you would be in here backing it up and linking the MSN article and telling us how Dear Leader made it so and can do no wrong!!!

Just as fast as Vet will make a C&P thread about how Obama's rejection of oatmeal for breakfast may have well been the greatest insult to and degradation of the constitution and threat to the american way of life that ever existed to reply to you equally bat fucking shit left wing DNC dick sucking noises.

Dear Mr. Above the Fray,

I don't have cable so I don't see MSN.

I kick Vette because he says silly, invalid, and often self-contradictory things that make him sound ridiculous.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Dear Mr. Above the Fray,

I don't have cable so I don't see MSN.

You don't have to have cable to watch the MSN or get other bat shit lib news praising everything the Dear Leader does.

I'm not above the Fray I'm just not part of the Dear Leader Dick Suck political party like you are.

I kick Vette because he says silly, invalid, and often self-contradictory things that make him sound ridiculous.

No argument.

 

[mercury14]

You don't have to have cable to watch the MSN or get other bat shit lib news praising everything the Dear Leader does.

I'm not above the Fray I'm just not part of the Dear Leader Dick Suck political party like you are.



No argument.

You seriously think I need to resort to some DNC page somewhere to counter the right-wing crazy talk here? Does anyone?

 

[Ishmael]

"ObamaPhones"

Ishmael

 

[richard_daily]

"ObamaPhones"

Ishmael

It's the fault of the republicans in congress.