Obama talks the talk but action speak louder than words

He wants us equal but not equal.

http://www.scotusblog.com/?p=160232

I haven't read the brief yet but if this is the case I'm devastated.

This is the support he should have given us!
http://www.cato.org/doc-download/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/perry-filed-brief-prop-8.pdf




Yup. Regardless of his current rhetoric, Obama has never been, is not and probably never will be a true friend of the LGBT community. I mean this is a guy who as recently as a year ago was "still evolving". His "evolution" was more based upon the need for LGBT election support and campaign contributions then anything else.


P.S. Jill Stein / Elizabeth Warren in 2016! (with Al Franken as SecState, Bernie Sanders as SecTreasury and Jody Williams as SecDefense)
 
He says what's politically expedient and then does...pretty much nothing. But then, that's nearly all politicians. I mean, after all, when the gay marriage question is settled, then they'll have to find some other stupid argument to distract the public with, and it's just way too much trouble to think up something else right now. :rolleyes:
 
Obama is not going to risk the farm and support SCOTUS making same sex marriage legal the way that Loving v Virgininia made interracial marriage legal, he still is in the mode far too much where he doesn't want to upset the knuckledraggers who make up the GOP powerbase. What is ironic is that conservatives like Ted Olsen and Bob Barr are arguing for same sex marriage on a liberatarian basis and many are picking that up. You also have to remember that being black, Obama is in a community that isn't exactly gay friendly, you have the black preachers, many of whom are vicious homophobes, and you have a lot of people claiming this will destroy marriage in the black community (kind of ironic, isn't it, in a community where 80% of the kids are being born to single moms.....in the Prop 8 leadup, they interviewed this one black woman, who had according to the piece 5 kids with 3 different fathers, who denounced same sex marriage as wrong, against god's will, against the purpose of marriage....pathetic.).

Likewise, when they go after DOMA (which is clearly unconstitutional, the federal government has no right to decide what a valid marriage is, that right is enumerated to the states), he is not likely to file a brief arguing that the clause that says a state doesn't have to recognize marriages of other states is unconstitutional under the full faith and credit clause.....I think he is too afraid to rile elements in the democratic base and is still trying to play nice with the GOP, who are dominated by religious nuts.

The one positive aspect is big businesses, I mean huge ones like google, apple and so forth, are filing briefs in favor of same sex marriage, they are coming on quite strong with it, and I think that is a positive. What the white trash in the farm belt and bible belt are going to find out is an old adage, money talks and shit walks. Despite what the GOP believes, the religious right and the Catholic Church and so forth are not economically powerful, and if the GOP thinks that they are going to lose the big money companies, some of the largest in the country, they know they can't count on Chic Fill A and other companies run by wing nuts to sustain them, and suddenly you will see some interesting things happening. I think that is going to be the big influence, I think some of the conservative justices, who are so pro business, are going to have a had time bucking them when it comes to this (forget Scalia, he is basically the Vatican's rep to SCOTUS these days, and Thomas, well, let's just say he should change his name to Jerry Mahnoney (for those too young to remember the reference, name of a famous ventriloquists dummy).
 
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