Obama leaving more shit on Trump's table.

[Ishmael]

Anyone think this isn't

a provocative move?

Yeah, yeah, I read what the official line is but perhaps walking in the other man's shoes would be a better approach.

Russia has been over-run by invaders for centuries. The Mongols, the Mongols allied with the Tartars, the Japanese and Chinese, the Teutonic Knights, the French (along with the Germanic tribes), and the Germans. The traditional path for invasion from the West is though Poland. So you might understand why the Russians, an already paranoid people, might just get a little more antsy with us send a few thousand troops and upwards of a hundred main battle tanks over to their western border.

Putin isn't our buddy, and he does have as a goal the re-establishment of Russia's traditional sphere of influence among the Slavic nations. But I can't see where fueling Russian paranoia is in anyone's best interests. Putin is going to have to move troops off the Amur River to counter this perceived threat, thus giving the Chinese, who believe, and always have, that Eastern Siberia is THEIR natural territory, pause to think that maybe it's time for them to make a move.

Hopefully Trumps advisors are wise enough to recommend that he pull back from this ill advised geopolitical chess move.

Ishmael

 

[Ms_Ann]

I know that when playing Risk, Russia is a bitch to defend.

 

[Wrong Element]

Could be worse. He could be leaving Trump with an economy on the verge of a depression.

 

[phrodeau]

Does anyone think that Obama should feel more than two farts for Donald Trump?

 

[Ms_Ann]

Does anyone think that Obama should feel more than two farts for Donald Trump?

No. Why should he start respecting the office now?

 

[Greypowerful]

Russia needs to stay within its borders. Sadly, we have to rely on YOU lot to wield Teddy's "big stick" from time to time, in the absence of any other " great power ".

The perennial issue IS, y'all vacillate betwixt Isolationist and Hawkish, seemingly at THE MOST inopportune times...

Russian and Chinese interests are NOT congruent with our Western values. A strong leadership position is required from the dominant Western power, whether we, the other Westwrn Allies, like the messenger, or not.

This requires that the "intermediate" partners, like Japan and Germany get on board, unreservedly.

We shall see what transpires with yet another entertainment personality inhabiting 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Could be worse. He could be leaving Trump with an economy on the verge of a depression.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEdv2e6zgF4ab9IaY/giphy.gif

mmmmmmmm drop

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Hopefully Trumps advisors are wise enough to recommend that he pull back from this ill advised geopolitical chess move.

Ishmael

RUFKM?

How about a shit sandwich the size of losing 600K jobs a month, $4.25 gasoline and a banking sector that just FAILED!?!

So yeah. This ill advised geopolitical chess move it trivial in comparison the to the failure of the last peaceful transition of the power of th Presidency.

 

[OldJourno]

Does anyone think that Obama should feel more than two farts for Donald Trump?

I would hope he would give more than two shits about the American people. What is he accomplishing here besides unnecessarily escalating tension between two nuclear powers? What, exactly, did the Russians do in the last two weeks to warrant this action?
All he's demonstrating is that it's a good thing he didn't grow a pair of balls earlier in his presidency. And it's too late now. The man is a eunuch on the international stage.

 

[OldJourno]

And speaking of you know who, for someone who has opened the borders to virtually everyone, changing policy and sending freedom-seeking Cubans back to the grinding poverty of a brutal communist dictatorship after they reach our shores is about the most contemptible thing he's done.

 

[hashtag46]

Russia needs to stay within its borders. Sadly, we have to rely on YOU lot to wield Teddy's "big stick" from time to time, in the absence of any other " great power ".

The perennial issue IS, y'all vacillate betwixt Isolationist and Hawkish, seemingly at THE MOST inopportune times...

Russian and Chinese interests are NOT congruent with our Western values. A strong leadership position is required from the dominant Western power, whether we, the other Westwrn Allies, like the messenger, or not.

This requires that the "intermediate" partners, like Japan and Germany get on board, unreservedly.

We shall see what transpires with yet another entertainment personality inhabiting 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Taken straight from the imperialistic and warmongering PC propaganda playbook. "We intervene in the i ternal affairs of, or even invade other countries because "we want to bring democracy and peace to the world".
Nevermind the patronising part

 

[Lancecastor]

More sad partisan dancing bear threads, yay.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What I get a sense of is disappointment that Obama can not make things bad enough quick enough.



A sense that to Democrats none of this is of any geopolitical importance anymore that putting Palestine, a terrorist enclave, ahead of Israel has had any consequences along with the arming of Iran both acts which actually, and quite unintentionally have strengthened Arab-Isreali relations in the region with the stable Sunni countries.

Also in shit sandwiches is that after eight years of not closing the prison in Cuba, he has cut off sanctuary for those who try to escape the prison that is Cuba. Too many of those Hispanics want a better life, not a lifetime of governmental benefit.

As for the crash, both parties were involved in it and both parties refused to let it self-correct, the Bush Administration who panicked over cries of doom and gloom and the the Obama Administration kept us mired in the 'not-'recovery of the past eight years (remembering that we had hit bottom before he was sworn in) because they were not about to let an opportunity go to waste...

 

[OldJourno]

Does anyone think that Obama should feel more than two farts for Donald Trump?

I've probably given this post more thought than it deserves, but I think it serves as evidence that, at least for some liberals, politics outweighs what is best for the country.
It also perfectly illustrates why some otherwise relatively sedate members of this board hold phrodeau in such vocal contempt. It's obvious that for phrodeau, having Democrats in charge is so much more important than the country's well-being.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Does anyone think that Obama should feel more than two farts for Donald Trump?

No. Why should he start respecting the office now?

Let us all take a moment to appreciate the unintentional irony here.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Anyone think this isn't

a provocative move?

No, not especially provocative. NATO has done these exercises before.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Please elaborate...



It was Obama who cancelled the missile shield in the name of 'overcharge.'

 

[Lancecastor]

Obama leaving more shit on Trump's table.

Will Trump's Hookers be shitting the bed?

 

[KingOrfeo]

And speaking of you know who, for someone who has opened the borders to virtually everyone, changing policy and sending freedom-seeking Cubans back to the grinding poverty of a communist dictatorship after they reach our shores is about the most contemptible thing he's done.

There is no good reason why Cubans should be treated any differently than Vietnamese in that regard.

 

[Lancecastor]

Which Miss Universe Contestants do you figure he was filmed with in Moscow in 2013?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/emin-in-another-life-official-music-video-ft-donald-trump-and-miss-universe-2013-contestants-youtube-eminofficial-00_03_12_22-still002-e1484157557610.jpg?strip=all&w=960

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

*chuckle*

 

[OldJourno]

Let us all take a moment to appreciate the unintentional irony here.

I don't see any irony regarding "respect" for the office of president under Obama. I hope it will be different with Trump, and I think it's way too early to assume, as many have, that he won't respect the office.
Let's review the Obama record (it's all public record, but I'm not sure it ever made the cut at CNN):
Obama repeatedly rewrote the ObamaCare law by executive fiat, issuing waivers to the politically connected, extending deadlines, subsidizing payments, etc.
He launched a war against Libya without congressional authorization.
He gutted the work requirement for welfare benefits.
He violated decades-old bankruptcy law to pay off labor unions before secured creditors in the auto bailout.
He spied on the press.
Eric Holder's Justice Department sold guns to Mexican drug cartels that were then used to murder U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and hundreds of Mexican citizens.
Obama allowed the IRS to illegally target and harass conservative non-profits, and refused to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate that outrage. Free speech fans, were you paying attention? Where is your outrage?
Obama instituted Operation Chokepoint to cut off banking services for legal businesses because Obama didn't like those businesses.
Obama sent millions of dollars to so-called sanctuary cities that stand in the way of enforcing U.S. immigration law, and he unilaterally rewrote American immigration law, granting de facto amnesty to millions of illegals (and releasing thousands of illegal alien rapists, robbers and murderers onto an unsuspecting population).
Obama illegally released terrorists from Guantanamo Bay.
Obama paid out a nearly $2 billion ransom to Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism.
Much of the above is courtesy of the Patriot Post.

 

[OldJourno]

Will Trump's Hookers be shitting the bed?

Not even close to the way Democrats are shitting their pants.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Much of the above is courtesy of the Patriot Post.

And the lesson is, never take seriously what you read in the Patriot Post.

 

[Conager]

Let us all take a moment to appreciate the unintentional irony here.

Agreed phrodeau's comment was truly ironic, as MsAnn pointed out. One of those rare moments where the left and the right can agree.