NSA Has Massive Database of American's Phone Calls

Oh, they could dub an entire porn flick of audio over using my phone calls for the last 2 years.
 
SelenaKittyn said:
NSA Has Massive Database of American's Phone Calls

Makes me want to switch to "Qwest."

No court order. Just "hand over your records."

What!?!?


NSA

No Such Agency

:)

The NSA monitors more traffic in a day, than the cumulative totaly of all of the moonshots combined. It's what they do. They have a hand in nearly every pie, from local to domestic to foerign affairs.

They have listening stations around the world and Cryptoanalyis machines that are some of the most powerful computers in the world.

As to what they do, I am sure the sum of it would apall you and most eveyone else. When it comes to intellligence, they are ubiquitos.
 
Well until this year I had SBC so my records aren't in there prior to that, but that's bullshit those companies sold their databases of anyones calls.

What happen to those companies privacy statements? Fuck the customer!
 
Colleen Thomas said:
they also record webcams & emails ;)
So much for just the audio, eh? :D

i have nothing to worry about. Wow. Thank goodness for small companies!
 
I care not. I don't call people.

/Liar the hermit (not really, but everyone i know is on IM, even grandma)
 
Wow. On one hand, I don't really care because I've nothing interesting. On the other hand, I find it pretty crappy that the government does things like this, lies continually about stuff like this, and we're just supposed to expect that all of their privacy invasions and plots and schemes are for the greater good. Which would be fine if the people in the government didn't have self interests and weren't, alot of the time, selfish bastards. How do we know that there just logging calls for patterns? How do we know they're not becoming Big Brother or heading back to the good ol' McCarthy days? How do we know that other agencies/people can't access the NSA databases and use the information for their own means?
 
sophia jane said:
Wow. On one hand, I don't really care because I've nothing interesting. On the other hand, I find it pretty crappy that the government does things like this, lies continually about stuff like this, and we're just supposed to expect that all of their privacy invasions and plots and schemes are for the greater good. Which would be fine if the people in the government didn't have self interests and weren't, alot of the time, selfish bastards. How do we know that there just logging calls for patterns? How do we know they're not becoming Big Brother or heading back to the good ol' McCarthy days? How do we know that other agencies/people can't access the NSA databases and use the information for their own means?
Here, here! Assholes!
 
lucky-E-leven said:
Oh, they could dub an entire porn flick of audio over using my phone calls for the last 2 years.

"This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."



(Believe that?)
 
impressive said:
"This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."



(Believe that?)


I'm already convinced they have boringly complete dossiers on people containing everything from their underwear size when they were 15 to their favorite brand and flavor of icecream, and whether they scoop some into a bowl or eat from the carton in the glow of the freezer light while standing in said underwear.

Am I happy about it? No. Do I think it will make me or anyone else safer? No. Do I suspect it and think it has ramificaitons and possible bad results? Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes.

You know, I've never been a pro-gun person. But now I begin to grasp the reasoning -- as long as the people have guns and ammo, the government is always a little nervous. Our government needs to be a little more afraid of the people who elect it, the way most people are just a little afraid of their boss. I think our current government is completely contemptuous of us.
 
malachiteink said:
You know, I've never been a pro-gun person. But now I begin to grasp the reasoning -- as long as the people have guns and ammo, the government is always a little nervous. Our government needs to be a little more afraid of the people who elect it, the way most people are just a little afraid of their boss. I think our current government is completely contemptuous of us.

The whole purpose of the "right to bear arms."


... whenever any form of government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government. Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness ...
 
impressive said:
The whole purpose of the "right to bear arms."


... whenever any form of government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government. Laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness ...

Precisely. Thomas Jefferson was right about that one, even though he was wrong to keep slaves. I don't know why people trot that one out, as if determined to make that discredit his ideas somehow?
 
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impressive said:
"This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."



(Believe that?)
I would if they weren't parked across the street in a big white van with no windows and a really tall antenna.
 
This freaks you out, what about the patriot act?

you sign a petition to change a law, your name goes into a database.

think about all the people who signed to legalize pot.

or that could be a dream... at the moment I am too fucking tired to tell the difference
 
lucky-E-leven said:
I would if they weren't parked across the street in a big white van with no windows and a really tall antenna.
Sorry, that's me. I thought I was being discrete. Drat.
 
lucky-E-leven said:
I would if they weren't parked across the street in a big white van with no windows and a really tall antenna.
Welcome to Channel 5 news....film at 11!
 
I pity the poor schmuck who had to listen to my phone conversations. After twenty minutes they'll be drilling holes in their head to let the boredom out. :D
 
Couture said:
And they still haven't found Osama Bin Laden.


In theory, the NSa is pretty powerless to find Bin Ladin. Man hunts aren't really their stock in trade although it is rumored they have run black bag ops in the past, that's usually working through another organ, like the CIA or JCS particularly thorugh SOG during the vietnam era.

Information is their forte. But if you're hiding out in a cave somewhre, don't use radios or phones, communicate with your followers via videotapes delivered to al jazziera and keep your contacts with anyone outside your core followers to a minimum, the NSA has little to go on. they don't have any large contingent of field operatives that I know of. Human intel is really not in their sphere.

Thats all guess work of course, even the executive order that created the NSA is classified, so their exact range and scope is unknown.

I'm not trying to minimize the invasiveness of this. Just pointing out the NSA has been oing this kinda stuff for a long time and the odds greatly favor them doing this kind of stuff into the future. It is what they do, afterall.
 
Huckleman2000 said:
I wish someone would give the President a blowjob so we could impeach him. :cool:

Eeeewww -- not with Osama Bin Laden's lips!
 
Huckleman2000 said:
I wish someone would give the President a blowjob so we could impeach him. :cool:


Would only work if he lies about it under oath and W has proven himself adept at not ending up in a situation wehre he is under oath.
 
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