Nothing Natural (book)

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Nothing Natural by Jenny Diski,
reviewed in London Times, (2-08) by M Katsoulis, (excerpt)

Anyone seen this???

Pure.
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[begin excerpt]

Whipping yarn

A victim of Eighties radical feminism, Diski’s book of sexual fetishism, violence and domination may sit rather more comfortably on the bookshelves of the 21st century, explains Melissa Katsoulis

NOTHING NATURAL
By Jenny Diski
Virago, £6.99, 288pp
ISBN 1 860 49942 2


For a book to be banned from a shop it would surely have to be pretty bad, right?

In three years working at an independent bookshop the only ones that I remember being exiled were DIY terrorist manuals and overtly racist manifestos. So how was it that Jenny Diski’s female-centred novel of sexual discovery found its way on to the blacklist at London’s famous women’s bookshop, Sisterwrite?

Well, it was the Eighties for a start, and the wimmin at Sisterwrite didn’t look as though they shared Diski’s heroine’s predilection for being abused and beaten by a balding old perv who doesn’t call for weeks and then turns up with a whip in a plastic bag. [...]

Back then, people didn’t know what to do with Nothing Natural, a novel about a nice North London mum who gets together with a charming, if eccentric, middle-class chap called Joshua. That would be “get together” as in “meet sporadically for sado-masochistic sex sessions”, and “eccentric” as in “possible rapist”. Even now, in this reissue with a new afterword, the scenes of Rachel’s submission to Joshua are difficult to read, perhaps because much of the S&M literature available to us is told from the point of view of professional dominatrices, whose stories seem acceptable because they are true, and — let’s face it — because it is the men who are subjugated.

But Diski’s book is fiction, so its truth is of a deeper, more complex kind. Here is a writer who chooses to imagine a woman not as a strong mistress of her own fortune, but as an occasional depressive who greets her lover in shorts and a T-shirt and wants to play rape games. Sure, when Rachel is living her normal life of work and motherhood she wonders what is going on and why she wants to be caused pain. But she knows that nothing does it for her like being maltreated at the hands of this manipulative dark horse. //

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Weird how smut blacklisted by rad fem sex police almost always makes my secret A-list. I haven't seen this book but will look out for it. Thanks for the heads up.
 
I haven't yet come across it, but hope to hear y'all's reports!

J.
 
Geez Pure ... i didn't intend a thread kill here.

... 3-7 days to deliver

... 2 days to read if vampire insomnia kicks into high gear

did you want our thoughts after reading?
 
Perhaps something a bit more recent, though not fiction, and also acknowledging feminist positive contribution to the subject of sexuality and BDSM in print and discussion is 'A Defense of Masochism' by Anita Phillips. Is an interesting and thought provoking read, not to mention having one of the most attractive covers I have seen in a long time.

Catalina
 
Thanks Pure and Cat.

i will look out for both.

i'm with eve. i too have a little collection of books i'm embarassed to show company and they always happen to be of this nature.

i will have an old fashioned, flashlight under the covers, read all night, book-a-thon that will make me blush and bury my face in the covers. Good read IMHO. ;)

lara
 
Whoa...

...Oddly, a copy of this book sits in the basket in my bathroom. :) I've only read the first chapter so far, but Little Girl read it already and said it had great D/s themes.

Maybe I can get her to post her thoughts on it... and mine, when I get around to finishing it. I'm the worst for finishing books these days... :j

...Wanderer...
 
I wish I could find 'A Defense of Masochism', it sounds like a good one. Another positive take is in Jane Sexes It Up edited by Merri Lisa Johnson. They're the first sex essays by self identified feminists that i've ever read thinking "oh wow, that's kind of like me" and "Oh wow, someone's saying it!"
 
s'lara said:
Thanks Pure and Cat.

i will look out for both.

i'm with eve. i too have a little collection of books i'm embarassed to show company and they always happen to be of this nature.

i will have an old fashioned, flashlight under the covers, read all night, book-a-thon that will make me blush and bury my face in the covers. Good read IMHO. ;)

lara

I was just looking around my place and noticed, normally fastidious about shelving books in some kind of known only to me order - have unconsciously scattered the naughty ones helter skelter - with at least two of them accessible from any given shelf in the house. Maybe I think that putting them all together would be too much of a shock to the system for browsing guests.
 
evesdream said:
I wish I could find 'A Defense of Masochism', it sounds like a good one. Another positive take is in Jane Sexes It Up edited by Merri Lisa Johnson. They're the first sex essays by self identified feminists that i've ever read thinking "oh wow, that's kind of like me" and "Oh wow, someone's saying it!"

If it is any help, Defense Of Masochism is published by St. Martin's Press New York and the ISBN is 0_312_19258_4. I bought mine from an mail order firm but have seen it in a bookstore as well.

Catalina
 
Feminist sex essays I like are in a british anthology called "Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Radical Feminism" which made me say to myself "oh thank God, I'm not the only one"

also a US tome called "sex and sensibility" which has more to do with images, kids and hysteria, but it's good.
 
Netzach said:
Feminist sex essays I like are in a british anthology called "Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Radical Feminism" which made me say to myself "oh thank God, I'm not the only one"


Yes is one of the good ones.

C
 
Book arrived today

From the first page ....
Morning seemed more hopeful in the summer; it was possible to open her eyes and get out of bed without a struggle, without fighting that weight on her chest and the powerful need to return to oblivion.
My, my, my ... am i going to enjoy this book ...
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Pure said:
Hi AA,
Which book are you talking about?

:rose:

I read this book years ago; loved some of the DS scenes in it but, without spoiling others reading, there are themes in it which come up in mainstream fiction that involved DS that I';m not wholly comfortabe with...


so be it.... It's a well written book, and the first scene in bed is one that sticks in my mind 'cos I've had a very similar experience.... More than once thankfully...
 
i've read a few books in my life ...

but this thing ... chuckling.

Had to put it down for a while.
 
Re: Re: i've read a few books in my life ...

catalina_francisco said:
So how is the book going AA?

C
When i get the chance, between cleaning up, i flip between emotionally charged and drained reading the pages. Some fly by, others require going back and rereading in depth.

Kinda like riding a rollercoaster i've been on before.
 
OK ...

My apologies for taking so much time to get back on this. i had a hard time reading the last 40 pages. Actually, the subject line should say it all. The afterword helped me understand the author's mindset, or goal. For those that have ever been in a relationship that just went wrong, this story will bring back memories.

The author wrote a painful, no pun intended, but interesting story with BDSM spice. For those looking for a piece of physical BDSM erotica, this ain't it. Otherwise, i think i'll limit my comments.
 
Thanks AA for getting back to us. "Physical" erotica has lost a lot of its punch for me after a zillion amateur porn stories, so I might like Diski. Any idea why she excited certain Brit feminists?

I'm reading Lolita now, any one check that out?

J./
 
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