Not just any old editor wanted...

[oldtopcat]

I'm a first time writer but long time reader.I'm a 53 year old,UK male.I have just had the most fantastic unbelievable but true experience in all my 40 year long sex life!It has left me with the desire to write it as an erotic story.I've just got to tell somebody about it or better still everybody about it!
It is a non-consent story.I know,I know! I would have preferred romance or erotic couplings my self.But I can't, honestly,even call it reluctance; it was non-consent.
That is why not any old editor will do.
Firstly,I would prefer a British writer or at least someone who can write English English.
Secondly,preferably a woman.Because if this is not written very sympathetically I can smell disaster!
Thirdly,I'm still only at the ideas stage and I will need loads of help with everything,so someone with time and patience would be nice.
I know it sounds like a shopping list for a wife,but I can assure you it's not.I don't need another one.Just an editor!Please!
oldTC

 

[AsylumSeeker]

Smile

Good luck!

 

[tanyachrs]

Um, wouldn't a real life non-consent story be rape?

 

[oldtopcat]

Thanks!

Good luck!

Yes,you are right, I will need luck with this one!
Some kind person's help would be be better still!
OldTC.

 

[Never]

Call me a cynic but I don't think you're going to get many female editors interested in your 'wonderful' true-life rape story.

 

[oldtopcat]

Non-consent=Rape. Part 1

Um, wouldn't a real life non-consent story be rape?

When I wrote the title;Non-consent=Rape.I was going to put a question mark after the word rape.But no,you are quite right.There can never be a question.
Yes,it is about rape.But,by the same yardstick aren't all non-consent stories about rape?Or, are you saying that,perhaps,they are sometimes more about
fantasy and that makes it ok?
Are you saying that rape is not a suitable topic for 'entertainment',in the form of an erotic story.Perhaps it's not 'correct' and should be 'outlawed' like underage sex stories?
I don't know.Thats why I need help,here!
Perhaps it depends on the circumstances and if any lasting harm is done?
Simplified-I was witness to a young woman that I know very well being 'gang raped' (God!,that sounds awful.) or, sexually entertained (sounds better!) by several men, she didn't know,at a party, while her husband watched.I got the distinct impression that she really enjoyed it.However the point is that someone had spiked her drink or drinks.Later she was totally zonked out,violently ill and almost totally oblivious of what had happened to her.She didn't get pregnant,or catch anything.Her husband says that it has improved their sex lives and wants to try it again but in a more proactive roll. (cont.)

 

[oldtopcat]

Non-consent=Rape. Part 2

Um, wouldn't a real life non-consent story be rape?

(continued)
So now you have a little more information.
Is it simply another rape story and am I just an old Sicko? (The thought has crossed my mind!)
Should it be written,or should I just forget it?I know that I want yo write it just to keep the events alive in my mind.Is that a legitimate reason for writing?
Perhaps I should seek psychiatric help? Oh,God,I'm a rape victim!
OldTC

 

[oldtopcat]

Thanks

Call me a cynic but I don't think you're going to get many female editors interested in your 'wonderful' true-life rape story.

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply.
I wouldn't dream of calling you a cynic I think you are right!
From the way you have accented 'wonderful' I suspect that you have cast me in the role of rapist.I must assure you that this is not the case.The story is true-life in so far as I know the main 'characters' and 'watched' the 'rape' and was closely involved afterwards.
Perhaps the story might be more acceptable if it was written from a voyeur viewpoint? Could I trap a female editor that way perhaps?..(Cynical too!)
I suppose I could target the story at the 'First Time' catagory.It's the first time I've experienced anything like this! I've led a very sheltered life:yes really!
Once again, thank-you.
OldTC

 

[tanyachrs]

Yes, that's rape, it's a horrible story, and you should be talking to the police, not us.

 

[LadyCibelle]

And I can tell you that Lit is gonna reject your story in less time than it could take you to fart.

Rape is rape, no matter how well you wrap it with all your grandiloquent explanation. That woman that your describe has been raped, pure and simple, and I don't think any of Lit editors will want any part in it.

I know I wouldn't even want to touch it with a 100 foot pole. Just reading your 'quick' account makes me want to puke.

 

[Cathleen]

I'm a first time writer but long time reader.I'm a 53 year old,UK male. I have just had the most fantastic unbelievable but true experience in all my 40 year long sex life!It has left me with the desire to write it as an erotic story.I've just got to tell somebody about it or better still everybody about it It is a non-consent story.I know,I know! I would have preferred romance or erotic couplings my self.But I can't, honestly,even call it reluctance; it was non-consent.
That is why not any old editor will do.
Firstly,I would prefer a British writer or at least someone who can write English English.
Secondly,preferably a woman.Because if this is not written very sympathetically I can smell disaster!
Thirdly,I'm still only at the ideas stage and I will need loads of help with everything,so someone with time and patience would be nice.
I know it sounds like a shopping list for a wife,but I can assure you it's not.I don't need another one.Just an editor!Please!
oldTC

When I wrote the title;Non-consent=Rape.I was going to put a question mark after the word rape.But no,you are quite right.There can never be a question.
Yes,it is about rape.But,by the same yardstick aren't all non-consent stories about rape?Or, are you saying that,perhaps,they are sometimes more about
fantasy and that makes it ok?
Are you saying that rape is not a suitable topic for 'entertainment',in the form of an erotic story.Perhaps it's not 'correct' and should be 'outlawed' like underage sex stories?
I don't know.Thats why I need help,here!
Perhaps it depends on the circumstances and if any lasting harm is done?
Simplified-I was witness to a young woman that I know very well being 'gang raped' (God!,that sounds awful.) or, sexually entertained (sounds better!) by several men, she didn't know,at a party, while her husband watched.I got the distinct impression that she really enjoyed it.However the point is that someone had spiked her drink or drinks.Later she was totally zonked out,violently ill and almost totally oblivious of what had happened to her.She didn't get pregnant,or catch anything.Her husband says that it has improved their sex lives and wants to try it again but in a more proactive roll. (cont.)

(continued)
So now you have a little more information.
Is it simply another rape story and am I just an old Sicko? (The thought has crossed my mind!)
Should it be written,or should I just forget it?I know that I want yo write it just to keep the events alive in my mind.Is that a legitimate reason for writing?
Perhaps I should seek psychiatric help? Oh,God,I'm a rape victim!
OldTC

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply.
I wouldn't dream of calling you a cynic I think you are right!
From the way you have accented 'wonderful' I suspect that you have cast me in the role of rapist.I must assure you that this is not the case.The story is true-life in so far as I know the main 'characters' and 'watched' the 'rape' and was closely involved afterwards.
Perhaps the story might be more acceptable if it was written from a voyeur viewpoint? Could I trap a female editor that way perhaps?..(Cynical too!)
I suppose I could target the story at the 'First Time' catagory.It's the first time I've experienced anything like this! I've led a very sheltered life:yes really!
Once again, thank-you.
OldTC

God where to start here. You are 53 years old? I sure as hell hope you do not have daughters. What would your wife say? This is just beyond horrible.

What you witnessed and in my opinion participated in was a crime (you did nothing to stop it)! Do you get that? I don't know the laws in the UK but here you could be charged along with everyone else there. You were a conspirator, you were an accessory during the fact and by your own admission you were 'closely involved afterwards'. Here are a few things that might interests you. I'm very sure rape is classified as a felony so these charges could be brought against you.

Accessory after the fact - a person who gives assistance or comfort to someone known to be a felon or known to be sought in connection with the commission of a felony;

Accessory before the fact - a person who procures or advises or commands the commission of a felony but who is not present at its perpetration;

Accessory during the fact - a person who witnesses a crime but does not try to prevent it.

I am incapable of looking at this as anything other than rape -- gang rape, because that is exactly what it was. There is also the charge of drugging someone -- you all did it up really well huh? I'm also incapable of not holding my voice on this. I am smart enough to know there are varying degrees and circumstances to all things. However, I can only respond to what you have expressed here. Certainly you don't look good at all, in fact you look like a grimy snake, in my opinion.

You have the flagrant gall to question or water down the effects of rape when you said "Perhaps it depends on the circumstances and if any lasting harm is done?" What?? The situation you described here is so not like a bruised arm or cut leg. Lasting harm -- HA. Is that your professional opinion doctor? Where is your brain? Your humanity? Unbelievable.

Simplified-I was witness to a young woman that I know very well being 'gang raped' (God!,that sounds awful.) or, sexually entertained (sounds better!) by several men, she didn't know,at a party, while her husband watched.I got the distinct impression that she really enjoyed it.However the point is that someone had spiked her drink or drinks.Later she was totally zonked out,violently ill and almost totally oblivious of what had happened to her.She didn't get pregnant,or catch anything.Her husband says that it has improved their sex lives and wants to try it again but in a more proactive roll.

My God there is just so much wrong with this whole thing but 'simplified', yeah right. Her husband, I cannot even begin to say what he deserves -- and the asshole wants to try it again. I'm so glad she didn't get pregnant or catch anything. How would you know if this has just happened? Oh that's right you know her very well, what a great friend you are!

"I was witness to a young woman that I know very well being 'gang raped' (God!,that sounds awful.)"

It sounds awful because it IS awful.

​

You trying to make it sound better -- 'gang raped' or 'sexually entertained' ... I just can't even speak to this statement.

This is so disturbing to say the least, this whole thing is gross. How nice you call it

...the most fantastic unbelievable but true experience in all my 40 year long sex life!

One final thing... fuck you! on behalf of the woman.​

 

[oldtopcat]

Thanks

And I can tell you that Lit is gonna reject your story in less time than it could take you to fart.

Rape is rape, no matter how well you wrap it with all your grandiloquent explanation. That woman that your describe has been raped, pure and simple, and I don't think any of Lit editors will want any part in it.

I know I wouldn't even want to touch it with a 100 foot pole. Just reading your 'quick' account makes me want to puke.

Message recieved and understood.
Sometimes we don't choose our experiences.
Sometimes we don't know how to handle them.
You are all right.Its a lousy idea and part of me has always been ashamed of it.

 

[LuthienEllesar]

Hmm.

I'm a woman myself. I would never want to be raped, under any circumstances. But technically, if they didn't allow those kinds of stories, then why would there be a Non-consentual category? Have you read some of the stories? They're all about RAPE. Sometimes it turns into nice rape, as in the female enjoys it... but its still rape. Sure, he's a psycho, and its completely and utterly wrong that he watched it and still did nothing, but technically the story would be allowed on the site in that category as long as she was over 18... right? I'm not a newbie, but I'm not that experienced in the site rules, I'm just putting in my two cents. Just because it isn't YOUR cup of tea doesn't mean it isn't someone else's.

 

[oldtopcat]

Thanks for your reply.

I'm a woman myself. I would never want to be raped, under any circumstances. But technically, if they didn't allow those kinds of stories, then why would there be a Non-consentual category? Have you read some of the stories? They're all about RAPE. Sometimes it turns into nice rape, as in the female enjoys it... but its still rape. Sure, he's a psycho, and its completely and utterly wrong that he watched it and still did nothing, but technically the story would be allowed on the site in that category as long as she was over 18... right? I'm not a newbie, but I'm not that experienced in the site rules, I'm just putting in my two cents. Just because it isn't YOUR cup of tea doesn't mean it isn't someone else's.

Thanks for your reply.I'm sorry for decieving you all,the story is a fake I just wanted to see how long it took to get the answer that Ms Luthiene Ellesar has just given above.That the non-conset catagory is all about rape.No matter how we dress it up. I'm Writing a story-pure Fantasy-Which has a non -consent element, I just wanted to know how far I could push the reallity element.Without realism even fantasy is unreadable.But too real is uncomfortable... it would seem.
What makes me uncomfortable in a non-consent story is when the woman starts off by being raped and ends by orgasming profusely and uncontrolably.Now if I was a woman I would find that offensive because it shows what men-some men-think of women.Under the surface they are all sluts.But at least one of the female sex isn't a stereotyped hypocrite! Nice rape...good one! OldTC

 

[LadyCibelle]

I'm a woman myself. I would never want to be raped, under any circumstances. But technically, if they didn't allow those kinds of stories, then why would there be a Non-consentual category? Have you read some of the stories? They're all about RAPE. Sometimes it turns into nice rape, as in the female enjoys it... but its still rape. Sure, he's a psycho, and its completely and utterly wrong that he watched it and still did nothing, but technically the story would be allowed on the site in that category as long as she was over 18... right? I'm not a newbie, but I'm not that experienced in the site rules, I'm just putting in my two cents. Just because it isn't YOUR cup of tea doesn't mean it isn't someone else's.

I'll answer you. The story would be rejected because he clearly states that the woman was administered date rape drugs. No matter how she reacted after the consumption of said drugs, if Lit allowed the story they could be liable for pursuit.

All the non-con stories have one thing in common when you look at it closely....the woman ALWAYS have her full conscious capability. She may say no, mean no, say yes, mean maybe or whatever but the fact remains that she ALWAYS have all her head. In his story, the woman lost that ability as soon as the drugs were administered to her, therefore whatever she did or didn't do is irrelevant because she wasn't allowed to make a clear-minded decision.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Thanks for your reply.I'm sorry for decieving you all,the story is a fake I just wanted to see how long it took to get the answer that Ms Luthiene Ellesar has just given above.That the non-conset catagory is all about rape.No matter how we dress it up. I'm Writing a story-pure Fantasy-Which has a non -consent element, I just wanted to know how far I could push the reallity element.Without realism even fantasy is unreadable.But too real is uncomfortable... it would seem.
What makes me uncomfortable in a non-consent story is when the woman starts off by being raped and ends by orgasming profusely and uncontrolably.Now if I was a woman I would find that offensive because it shows what men-some men-think of women.Under the surface they are all sluts.But at least one of the female sex isn't a stereotyped hypocrite! Nice rape...good one! OldTC

That's bullshit wrapped in golden paper, if I've ever heard any!!! Your 'story' is unacceptable, and I'm not convinced it's only a story anyway, because you clearly stated that your 'character' didn't get any choice in the matter.

Date rape drugs are too much on people's mind and too easy to administer for anyone to see it for what it really was.....RAPE pure and simple.

You can wrapped it in golden paper and use grandiloquent explanation as much as you want....the fact remains that you're a sicko if it's true and even sicker if you got off on it. And clearly deranged if you compare rape to rape fantasy.

 

[LuthienEllesar]

Ooook.

Ah. I didn't catch the drugged part, and I understand completely now. Thanks, LadyCibelle.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Ah. I didn't catch the drugged part, and I understand completely now. Thanks, LadyCibelle.

That's here:

[.....]
Perhaps it depends on the circumstances and if any lasting harm is done?
Simplified-I was witness to a young woman that I know very well being 'gang raped' (God!,that sounds awful.) or, sexually entertained (sounds better!) by several men, she didn't know,at a party, while her husband watched.I got the distinct impression that she really enjoyed it.However the point is that someone had spiked her drink or drinks.Later she was totally zonked out,violently ill and almost totally oblivious of what had happened to her.She didn't get pregnant,or catch anything.Her husband says that it has improved their sex lives and wants to try it again but in a more proactive roll. (cont.)

You're most welcome, dear. I'm just sorry you caught the tail of that 'argument' and have to suffer some of my anger.

 

[LuthienEllesar]

Quite alright, it happens to the best of us. I'm just happy I didn't get my head totally chewed off.

 

[tanyachrs]

Thanks for your reply.I'm sorry for decieving you all,the story is a fake

Either way, you're scum.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Either way, you're scum.

You and a few others are my heros for the day.

 

[CopyCarver]

You and a few others are my heros for the day.

Damn, a good fight and I missed it completely Can I still be anti-hero for a day?


ps: Jen's back!

 

[LadyCibelle]

Damn, a good fight and I missed it completely Can I still be anti-hero for a day?

No need to go for anti-hero for a day, handsome. You're the HERO to beat all hero.

ps: Jen's back!

ps: I saw.

 

[oldtopcat]

Thanks

Either way, you're scum.

I'm sad to say it.But you're not the only one arround here,that thinks it!
I've said I'm sorry.It was a bad idea.
This was my first posting...And now you've gone and spoiled it for me!

 

[oldtopcat]

Questions?

Damn, a good fight and I missed it completely Can I still be anti-hero for a day?


ps: Jen's back!

Is it always like this?
Are 'they' always like this?
Do I sense that asking if I've picked a bad time of the month might not be a good idea?
Don't remember the last time I lost so much fur!
Tactical retreat or stand and fight? Purrrring sure as hell don't seem to be doing me a lot of good!!!