Not all fascists are Republicans...

[SevMax2]

...though plenty are.

Just look at the interventionist foreign policy, incestuous bond with Wall Street, love of the surveillance state, drug wars, retaliation against whistleblowers like Snowden, Manning, and Assange, and union-busting, deficit hawkery of the Democratic Party. Simply put, the oligarchy is bipartisan and loves both parties almost equally, because they ARE the oligarchy, too. The robber barons have hijacked both political parties and it's high time to admit this fact now.

Even on the issue of xenophobia, look at how slow Biden has been to release kids from cages and camps, while the MSNBC crowd shouted "RussiaGate" conspiracy theories for years, thus endangering Russian Americans and Russian tourists, immigrants, etc. with all of that jingoistic, fact-free, McCarthyist rubbish. Maddow and company were basically the new Joe McCarthys and they're not even ashamed of it.

It's high time to admit that electoral politics are broken. Something else is needed now. Just what that is...that's the only question. General strike? Boycott? Civil disobedience? Primary every Establishment Democrat? Set up a brand new party? Well, any thoughts? I'm racking my brain for solutions that can end the reign and supremacy of Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex for good.

 

[RobDownSouth]

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Even on the issue of xenophobia, look at how slow Biden has been to release kids from cages and camps. <derp snip>

This is simply not true....and even if it was (which it's not) Biden has been in office less than 50 or so days. He has opted to concentrate on Covid Relief as his number one priority, so if you want to clutch your pearls over other lesser priorities, by all means do so. As teh kids say "you do you".

 

[SevMax2]

This is simply not true....and even if it was (which it's not) Biden has been in office less than 50 or so days. He has opted to concentrate on Covid Relief as his number one priority, so if you want to clutch your pearls over other lesser priorities, by all means do so. As teh kids say "you do you".

Executive orders literally don’t take an act of Congress. And how are kids in cages a lesser priority now, when they weren’t when Trump was in office. By the way, COVID-19 relief was supposed to be much sooner and a full two grand, not fourteen hundred.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Much sooner? It took Biden and a D Congress 50 days. It was Trump and the Rs who sat on their asses for nearly a year. This was accomplished very quickly by the Dems.

I think there should be 1000K at least a MONTH, and a one time check is a laughing stock, but there's so much more in the bill. It's called compromise.

You have the mentality of a spoiled, self-centered baby. I want what I want NOW. Perhaps you would prefer a dictator.

With the rs we got NOTHING. Unemployment help disappeared. They weren't going to do a goddamned thing.

Executive orders literally don’t take an act of Congress. And how are kids in cages a lesser priority now, when they weren’t when Trump was in office. By the way, COVID-19 relief was supposed to be much sooner and a full two grand, not fourteen hundred.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Executive orders literally don’t take an act of Congress. And how are kids in cages a lesser priority now, when they weren’t when Trump was in office. By the way, COVID-19 relief was supposed to be much sooner and a full two grand, not fourteen hundred.

Yes, yes, you obiously have the need for immediate gratification, like many of your generation. As the kids like to say, "Okay Boomer".

 

[SevMax2]

Much sooner? It took Biden and a D Congress 50 days. It was Trump and the Rs who sat on their asses for nearly a year. This was accomplished very quickly by the Dems.

I think there should be 1000K at least a MONTH, and a one time check is a laughing stock, but there's so much more in the bill. It's called compromise.

You have the mentality of a spoiled, self-centered baby. I want what I want NOW. Perhaps you would prefer a dictator.

With the rs we got NOTHING. Unemployment help disappeared. They weren't going to do a goddamned thing.

It’s not immature to hold their feet to the fire, dude.

Try expecting more of our leaders than sucking up to elites. You might find that it makes a significant difference for us all. You got major Stockholm Syndrome like many voters nowadays. This is why we can’t have nice things. We don’t hold our public servants accountable for what they do and don’t. We don’t fight for our rights.

 

[SevMax2]

Yes, yes, you obiously have the need for immediate gratification, like many of your generation. As the kids like to say, "Okay Boomer".

Not my fault you’re being suckered by mainstream, corporate media. I’m pretty far left of center, so not trusting CNN, MSNBC, or Fox at all comes second nature. I’m not entitled. I’m radicalized. Deal with it.

 

[Lazaran]

I’m radicalized.

Not all dipshits are Trumptards.

When can we expect you and your Bernie Bros to storm the Capitol???

Has Bernie sent out a save the date card yet???

Be forewarned that the response to the "next" Capitol siege is going to be far more kinetic and energetic.

Good luck

 

[SevMax2]

Don’t shit your pants, Boomer. We’re going for nonviolent action first. Besides, the guillotines need to be built first. Maybe we’ll unionize Neera Tanden’s PAC first along with Buzzfeed. And Whole Foods and the Washington Post next. Give Bezos a stroke.

 

[SevMax2]

Got that right. Unfortunately, it's become a global problem not just an American one.

Including the Blair wing of the Labour Party that threw Corbyn under the bus and put Starmer in.

 

[BluesDriver66]

The difference between the Republican party and the Democratic party is like the difference between a shit burger and a shit burger with cheese.

Around here the Democratic political hacks treat politics like a team sports. Any mention of issues that actually affect the lives of Americans are considered expendable of favor of owning "Trumptards".

Typical exchange:

Me: 45,000 Americans die needlessly due to lack of health care.
Them: Ha ha! Trump lost!

Me: Biden is a lying war monger who promotes endless war.
Them: Your guy lost! Deal with it!

Me: Folks in my community are losing their jobs, health care, and homes.
Them: Biden won. Fuck off troll.

They are not interested in policy. Just pointing out stupid Republicans as if that alone is some sort of victory. While at the same time endless excuses for Democratic failures to deliver anything beyond lip service to progressive causes and watered down Republican legislation.

Any criticism of Democrats lack of competence or corporate boot licking and you would think someone just dissed some fan girls favorite boy band. They demand party loyalty and feels politicians should be treated like celebrities instead of civil servants whose jobs require review.

 

[KeithD]

You have the mentality of a spoiled, self-centered baby. I want what I want NOW. ]

While doing nothing but bitching and moaning. This from a former hard-core "just leave us all alone" libertarian.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

As a matter of fact, the COVID bill is a demonstration of people doing just that.

The country held the Rs accountable for doing absolutely squat and kicked them out of power. That's what we do, vote. We voted in a new Admin and Congress and 50 days later we have results. That is the system working.

Your bitch about it being later than promised makes no sense.

Your bitch about how much people are getting in a one time check is just ignorant, since you obviously don't know what else is in the bill and how much help ie money it is giving to people esp the poorest among us.

Much sooner? It took Biden and a D Congress 50 days. It was Trump and the Rs who sat on their asses for nearly a year. This was accomplished very quickly by the Dems.

I think there should be 1000K at least a MONTH, and a one time check is a laughing stock, but there's so much more in the bill. It's called compromise.

You have the mentality of a spoiled, self-centered baby. I want what I want NOW. Perhaps you would prefer a dictator.

With the rs we got NOTHING. Unemployment help disappeared. They weren't going to do a goddamned thing.

It’s not immature to hold their feet to the fire, dude.

Try expecting more of our leaders than sucking up to elites. You might find that it makes a significant difference for us all. You got major Stockholm Syndrome like many voters nowadays. This is why we can’t have nice things. We don’t hold our public servants accountable for what they do and don’t. We don’t fight for our rights.

 

[SevMax2]

The difference between the Republican party and the Democratic party is like the difference between a shit burger and a shit burger with cheese.

Around here the Democratic political hacks treat politics like a team sports. Any mention of issues that actually affect the lives of Americans are considered expendable of favor of owning "Trumptards".

Typical exchange:

Me: 45,000 Americans die needlessly due to lack of health care.
Them: Ha ha! Trump lost!

Me: Biden is a lying war monger who promotes endless war.
Them: Your guy lost! Deal with it!

Me: Folks in my community are losing their jobs, health care, and homes.
Them: Biden won. Fuck off troll.

They are not interested in policy. Just pointing out stupid Republicans as if that alone is some sort of victory. While at the same time endless excuses for Democratic failures to deliver anything beyond lip service to progressive causes and watered down Republican legislation.

Any criticism of Democrats lack of competence or corporate boot licking and you would think someone just dissed some fan girls favorite boy band. They demand party loyalty and feels politicians should be treated like celebrities instead of civil servants whose jobs require review.

Apparently, only the Republicans needed to be accountable in their twisted neoliberal corporate hellscape.

 

[phrodeau]

Executive orders literally don’t take an act of Congress. And how are kids in cages a lesser priority now, when they weren’t when Trump was in office. By the way, COVID-19 relief was supposed to be much sooner and a full two grand, not fourteen hundred.

600+1400 is a full two grand. Simple math.

 

[SevMax2]

600+1400 is a full two grand. Simple math.

They implied actual two grand checks on top of the six hundred. It should be a monthly UBI, anyway.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Not my fault you’re being suckered by mainstream, corporate media. I’m pretty far left of center, so not trusting CNN, MSNBC, or Fox at all comes second nature. I’m not entitled. I’m radicalized. Deal with it.

Not "suckered" at all, friend. I choose to live in the reality-based world, where "compromise solution" prevails. You're an ideologue, a mirror image of the loathesome BoBo, one of those whackadoodles who insist that anything less that 100% success is by definition "failure". This is not grounded in political reality, with a heapin' helping of "shoot the messenger" towards generally accepted mainstream news sources.

Your thread premise, that Democrats are somehow "fascist" because the failed to accomplish in less than 50 days what Republicans did not accomplish in almost a year is bad faith false equivalency.

 

[SevMax2]

Not "suckered" at all, friend. I choose to live in the reality-based world, where "compromise solution" prevails. You're an ideologue, a mirror image of the loathesome BoBo, one of those whackadoodles who insist that anything less that 100% success is by definition "failure". This is not grounded in political reality, with a heapin' helping of "shoot the messenger" towards generally accepted mainstream news sources.

Your thread premise, that Democrats are somehow "fascist" because the failed to accomplish in less than 50 days what Republicans did not accomplish in almost a year is bad faith false equivalency.

It’s not reality that the corporate media sells. It’s elite, ruling class propaganda. If you don’t see how fascist an imperialist foreign policy, an inappropriate political influence by the military industrial complex, banks, and prison industrial complex, a surveillance state, and the drug war are, well, that’s your willful ignorance, not mine. That’s on your conscience. 2009 showed that too much compromise will betray the working class and accomplish little of substance to prevent the implosion of civilized society and the public good.

The positions that I hold are held by majorities in both parties, so who is the extremist ideologue here?