Nonconcent Stories

[blackwatch1881]

I know that the subject covers both type of stories nonconcent and reluctance. But there doesnt seem to be many stories about the nonconcent side of things, they all seem to end wth the 'victim' enjoying it.

Although the idea of rape I'm sure for many people is a terrible thing, but unfortuantly the fantasty of it is quite a turn on for me. This is just my opinion but the endings seem to ruin a good story. Its the mental things that are going on that seem to do it, trying to resist n not just giving up so easily as they all seem to.

If anyone knows or understand what I'm waffling about please telling me, cause its confusing, as in D/s, I know it seems wrong but it feels so right.

A confused lass

 

[BlackSnake]

I hear you. I just finished a rough draft on a story where a girl is raped. Not slapped around but forciblly raped. She resists as much as she can, but the assalent outlasts her. It is very common for raped victims to have orgasms. That doesn't mean that they are willing to turn the other cheek, sort-of-speak.

My victim nails the guy in the mouth with her fist after he is spent. The best time to get him...lol

But, during the assault she begins to fight with herself, her reaction to his thrusts. She is lifting and rolling her hips. She has tears, but also moans. She achives her first orgasm by a man, but that too angers her.

Now if I was writing a rape story, it would be wear the only way she achieves an orgasm is when she's raped. I would give her a string of bad luck.

One of the things that happens to couple where the wife has been raped, is rejection by the husband. Not emotionally, but sexually. Add a bit of RL drama to make the story even hotter.

 

[GuyJD]

Well you guys might love this one: Black Stripper Gang Rape

The story title pretty much explains it.

 

[BlackSnake]

Well you guys might love this one: Black Stripper Gang Rape

The story title pretty much explains it.

I don't know, seems like something is missing from the story.

It did, however include the things we were talking about here.

???

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

I know that the subject covers both type of stories nonconcent and reluctance. But there doesnt seem to be many stories about the nonconcent side of things, they all seem to end wth the 'victim' enjoying it.

I may be wrong, but I thought that was the point of that category?

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Re: Re: Nonconcent Stories

I may be wrong, but I thought that was the point of that category?

The point of the category is for people who want to be rapists but lack the audacity to do it to be satisfied with a lesser fantasy of control.

 

[BlackSnake]

Everytime I want to say something about the story, it comes out as feedback.

So, it didn't have a happy ending, or did it? Twin girls and she didn't abort them.

 

[blackwatch1881]

Re: Re: Re: Nonconcent Stories

The point of the category is for people who want to be rapists but lack the audacity to do it to be satisfied with a lesser fantasy of control.

its not just the rapists that it pleasures, there a re a great deal of females who become very aroused at the thougt of it happening to them, the helplessness of it, the pain, the lack of control.

 

[BlackSnake]

Well, I'm going to give it a shot

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

The point of the category is for people who want to be rapists but lack the audacity to do it to be satisfied with a lesser fantasy of control.

What I mean is, I thought it was the point of the Lit category that the "victim had to enjoy it by the end" and that was why Lit changed the name slightly to include "reluctance".

 

[blackwatch1881]

I think the catagory covers both nonconcent and reluctance, its under the reluctance side that most seem to be, because at first they're unwilling but because of their bodys betrayal become involved in it and enjoy it, even physically responding to it.

Its the nonconcent side which I'm interested in, where although the body is reacting to the situation (or even sometimes not reacting) The mind isnt enjoying it but becoming more and more frustrated at how confusing it all is.

The pleasure gained is hard to explain, because 90% of our mind is trying to dismiss the feelings we have when we read it because its morally wrong to enjoy something which can and has ruined many women (and mens) lives.

The fanstasy we have about it I suppose contains some safty barriers. Such as knowing that our life isnt *really* at risk or that we are going to be permently damaged by any STDs, even that our 'attacker' isnt so repulsive that it'd make you vomit at the thought of having him take advantage out you.

I personally would enjoy the real fear in the situation, but maybe thats just me.

A question:- Do those who 'get off' on rape fantasies also gain pleasure from the D/s scene?

Sorry waffling again
Carley

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

When I used to read stories here, there was an "extreme" side that had rape stories. The "non consent" stories had to have the "victim like it at the end". Maybe it's changed now?

 

[blackwatch1881]

didnt I just reply to that in the above post? in that the subject covers two almost seperate catagories?
As for 'extreme' theres very few Ive read that are extreme, maybe I should post one of mine up

 

[blackwatch1881]

Well you guys might love this one: Black Stripper Gang Rape

The story title pretty much explains it.

Sorry, only just had the time to read it.

The basis of the story is good, but it needs a little more detail in the fucking though, what was going through her mind being surounded by cocks... opening her eyes to be faced with cocks being gently stroked and teased as they watched their own personal sex show. Is she being held down? Does she try and fight it? If you were being raped would you lie back n take it through fear, your heart pumping heavily in your chest? Or would you kick n fight only to receive a possible fatal warning?

I'm not putting it down it is a good story, just trying to help

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

didnt I just reply to that in the above post? in that the subject covers two almost seperate catagories?
As for 'extreme' theres very few Ive read that are extreme, maybe I should post one of mine up

No no no. I am saying unless it has very recently changed to accept "rape" stories then the "non consent/reluctance" category does not allow "rape" stories and the "victim must like it by the end". I thought adding "reluctance" to the name was simply a way to add some security to the category. (Just like Incest now says "taboo" as well.)

So, I may be wrong. It may have changed recently. But, so far people are saying "there are no rape stories here", etc.

 

[blackwatch1881]

ah

now I understand what your saying... the sites rules etc?

 

[rakastuja]

I know that the subject covers both type of stories nonconcent and reluctance. But there doesnt seem to be many stories about the nonconcent side of things, they all seem to end wth the 'victim' enjoying it.

Actually I find it really disturbing. I guess I would rather see a story which would leave me with a disgusting feeling because it was about violence, abuse and rape. Now many rape stories leave me with a disgusting feeling because they seem to paint picture that rape is in a way right because it would give women something they want...

It is very common for raped victims to have orgasms.

Where did you get this info?

 

[wishfulthinking]

Re: Re: Re: Nonconcent Stories

The point of the category is for people who want to be rapists but lack the audacity to do it to be satisfied with a lesser fantasy of control.

Eek. Where to start...

Hey Bw! It was always my understanding [even pre-the addition of reluctance to the title] that in order for a story to be approved in the non-consent category, the victim must be seen to enjoy themselves. The horror category is, I think, the opposite. You can rape, beat, and eat the victim, and they don't have to enjoy it.

You might like stories by powerone, who deals with the victims helpless frustration about being taken against thier will and to their further humiliation enjoying it. Ok, I know, still the enjoyment factor!

As to the incest/taboo divide - some people might consider sex with a brother-in-law as incest, while others might simply view it as taboo. I think it is to broaden the category, rather than place limitations on it.

Cheers, WT

 

[blackwatch1881]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Nonconcent Stories

Hey Bw! It was always my understanding [even pre-the addition of reluctance to the title] that in order for a story to be approved in the non-consent category, the victim must be seen to enjoy themselves. The horror category is, I think, the opposite. You can rape, beat, and eat the victim, and they don't have to enjoy it.

Is that what I was misunderstanding about what MyDarkFantasies was saying and in the second post and a better way of explaining it I understood what s/he was saying?

as you can probably tell from my info that Ive not been posting very long n Ive only been reading the stories for a few months n missed out chunks of the rules or skip read them (as I image most have done) because Ive not had the need to because Ive never had the guts to post one of my own tales.

As to the incest/taboo divide - some people might consider sex with a brother-in-law as incest, while others might simply view it as taboo. I think it is to broaden the category, rather than place limitations on it.

Now youve lost me...

I think theres different types of enjoying it, theres your body reacting to it and enjoying although your mind isnt and is fighting against it, your common mindfuck (my preferance)

Or theres the enjoyment that the victim not longer needs to be controled because s/he be comes so willing in the act that it becomes as though she was fully consenting from that start... reluctance?

Ive probably already said all this but I dont think anyone seems to understand where I'm coming from

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

ah

now I understand what your saying... the sites rules etc?

Right! The rules/guidelines may have changed, is also what I am saying, I have no idea! lol

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

Re: Re: Nonconcent Stories

It is very common for raped victims to have orgasms.

Where did you get this info?

I wondered that too.

 

[MyDarkFantasies]

P.S.

Is that what I was misunderstanding about what MyDarkFantasies was saying and in the second post and a better way of explaining it I understood what s/he was saying?

Yup, I'm a she. hee hee hee

 

[wishfulthinking]

I'm going to have a go, but everone will have differing ideas on this:

Non-consent - the victim [don't know if that is the right word] did not want to do it, but thier body's reaction overcame their mind.

Whereas

Reluctance - coercion is placed on the victim, and the victim probably wasn't completely against the idea from the start but wouldn't admit it.

The 'incest/taboo' category was just 'incest' not too long ago, same as the 'non-consent' being changed to 'non-consent/reluctance'

 

[Lady Cassandra]

OK, I have to clear something up here.

Very few rape victims have orgasms. Wetness is an issue and very few understand that is a way your body can protect one from more physical abuse. Sounds weird but, trust me, it's he honest truth. They start to recard their bodies as traitors, betrayers. If one does not seek immediate therapy then some really bad things will occur. We can get so struck on the asshole that raped up we track him, watch him, wait for the moment to give him as much misery as he gave us. The attacker(s) took away our power and after a while we want it back and will to anyting to get it back.

I am a rape and incest councellor and a survivor of both.

Regards,
Cass

 

[blackwatch1881]

Thank you Lady Cassandra, you seemed to have shed a little light on somethings that we've got our wires crossed on.

Its weird though. maybe its just one of those things that will stay in my head and is probably the best place for it. I just cant help thinking and feeling what I do even though its wrong