NOAA: 2012 was the hottest year in the history of the U.S. (lower 48)

[KingOrfeo]

Thing is here is that the best "proof" you can get here is "the consensus of the scientific community" not real scientific proof.

The same is true of gravity.

 

[trysail]

And when will they learn that physicists are not climatologists?

I didn't think it was possible but you've somehow managed to even outdumb yourself with that beauty☝.

Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a winner, folks.




Since the entire shaky CAGW conjecture revolves around atmospheric radiative feedbacks and thermodynamics, only a complete dope could assert that a climatologist (god only knows what the hell that is. Is it a dendrochronologist like Michael Mann and Keith Briffa? ) is better qualified to weigh in on the topic.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatologist






BTW, exactly what percentage of the earth's surface is represented by the continental U.S. ? You should look this up because the yahoo who asserts that one year's average temperature for the continental U.S. is somehow significant is revealing themselves to be a fool and a horse's ass.

 

[shoulderblade]

The same is true of gravity.

That could be a good analogy.

I am at a bit of a loss as to the climate change thing. It would be nicce to go along with the consensus on it but how it is being managed is a little hard to believe.

With ethanol the cost of production makes its value marginal, at best, and why are they using Corn rather than other crops which would produce a better yield?

Put a moratorium on nuclear which produces no emissions and pump up on Coal which does.

I am left wondering if even the proponents of climate change actually believe in it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Oh, AJ, I love your little "experts"!

Roy Spencer (wiki article) is noted for his "fundamentally flawed" research. It seems Dr. Spencer has adopted the "AJ Method" of scientific research: he routinely ignores any and all research that runs contrary to his preconceived notions of The Way Things Ought To Be.

He's also an expert on Intelligent Design.

Great counter-argument there, AJ!!

More ridicule for Roy Spencer, Fox's "go-to" climate change denier

The man is an utter fraud. Small wonder AJ elevates him to his Pantheon of Heroes.

 

[run_silent]

Where I live in Florida last summer was mild and the winter is mild. I don't know why but I'll take it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

That could be a good analogy.

I am at a bit of a loss as to the climate change thing. It would be nicce to go along with the consensus on it but how it is being managed is a little hard to believe.

With ethanol the cost of production makes its value marginal, at best, and why are they using Corn rather than other crops which would produce a better yield?

Put a moratorium on nuclear which produces no emissions and pump up on Coal which does.

I am left wondering if even the proponents of climate change actually believe in it.

I know some environmentalists have come around to the idea that nuclear power is the way to go. Despite Fukushima, etc.

 

[KingOrfeo]

BTW, exactly what percentage of the earth's surface is represented by the continental U.S. ?

Approximately the same as Australia.

 

[KingOrfeo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatologist

Climatology (from Greek κλίμα, klima, "place, zone"; and -λογία, -logia) is the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time,.[1] Traditionally it is regarded as a branch of the atmospheric sciences and a subfield of physical geography; however, with recent increases in scope this is no longer appropriate, as it now includes aspects of oceanography and biogeochemistry. Basic knowledge of climate can be used within shorter term weather forecasting using analog techniques such as the El Niño – Southern Oscillation (ENSO), the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO), the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), the Northern Annualar Mode (NAM), the Arctic oscillation (AO), the Northern Pacific (NP) Index, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), and the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation (IPO). Climate models are used for a variety of purposes from study of the dynamics of the weather and climate system to projections of future climate.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Since the entire shaky CAGW conjecture revolves around atmospheric radiative feedbacks and thermodynamics, only a complete dope could assert that a climatologist (god only knows what the hell that is. Is it a dendrochronologist like Michael Mann and Keith Briffa? ) is better qualified to weigh in on the topic.

Different approaches

Climatology is approached in a variety of ways. Paleoclimatology seeks to reconstruct past climates by examining records such as ice cores and tree rings (dendroclimatology). Paleotempestology uses these same records to help determine hurricane frequency over millennia. The study of contemporary climates incorporates meteorological data accumulated over many years, such as records of rainfall, temperature and atmospheric composition. Knowledge of the atmosphere and its dynamics is also embodied in models, either statistical or mathematical, which help by integrating different observations and testing how they fit together. Modeling is used for understanding past, present and potential future climates. Historical climatology is the study of climate as related to human history and thus focuses only on the last few thousand years.

Climate research is made difficult by the large scale, long time periods, and complex processes which govern climate. Climate is governed by physical laws which can be expressed as differential equations. These equations are coupled and nonlinear, so that approximate solutions are obtained by using numerical methods to create global climate models. Climate is sometimes modeled as a stochastic process but this is generally accepted as an approximation to processes that are otherwise too complicated to analyze.

All very, very different from what a physicist does or studies. One might as well call chemistry a branch of physics. It is and it isn't, and it would be unwise to consult a physicist on a question in chemistry.

 

[KingOrfeo]

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