No Respect For Elders....

[SEVERUSMAX]

....I don't mean letting older people run your lives. I mean good old-fashioned reverence for elders, such as aging parents and grandparents. I mean not calling your parents by their middle name and treating them like children. Where has that gone? I just overheard my landlady's sister call her dad by his middle name!

Okay, so I'm a Romanophile, who likes old-fashioned Roman values like reverence for ancestors, respect for the spirits in everything (including the house), orgies, etc. So sue me.

 

[cloudy]

Some cultures still have respect for elders.

But, I agree, it sometimes seems to have gone the way of good manners, and helping your neighbor.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Some cultures still have respect for elders.

But, I agree, it sometimes seems to have gone the way of good manners, and helping your neighbor.

See, I believe in some traditional values. The ones that make sense to me. Such as the ones that you just mentioned. Care for a barn-raising? Could have a picnic with apple pie, and all.

 

[cloudy]

You need to live in the south...much of what you've mentioned still happens here.

When we put our fence up, within an hour we had 6 or 7 neighbors stop and help - one brought his auger to drill holes for the pullposts.

Our horses have gotten out several times, but someone always sees them out, and puts them up, as well as doing a quick fix on the fence, then leaving a note on the porch about where the break was.

I've stopped on the way to work, and been late after chasing my neighbors cows back into the pasture.

There's much about this area I can't stand, but that type of thing I love.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

You need to live in the south...much of what you've mentioned still happens here.

When we put our fence up, within an hour we had 6 or 7 neighbors stop and help - one brought his auger to drill holes for the pullposts.

Our horses have gotten out several times, but someone always sees them out, and puts them up, as well as doing a quick fix on the fence, then leaving a note on the porch about where the break was.

I've stopped on the way to work, and been late after chasing my neighbors cows back into the pasture.

There's much about this area I can't stand, but that type of thing I love.

Uh...I sort of DO live in the South. I live in the Houston area.

 

[cloudy]

Uh...I sort of DO live in the South. I live in the Houston area.

That's city.

I'm talking about B.F.E.....Dixie, land of cotton.

 

[amicus]

SeverusMax...on another thread, while advocating total personal freedom, you brought up sex...between consenting individuals past the age of majority, I assume.

Nothing in any of my writings have ever implied anything less than total freedom of individual action. I do have reservations about public schools, public acceptance in general and formal contractual agreements such a marriage, as defined between a man and a woman, as applying to all.

Just wanted to answer that criticism.

No, I am not paranoid, but are you familiar with 'retirement communitities' in the 'sunbelt' where all the gramps and grammies have gone?

Much of this is due to 'social security', I think, which enables older folks to retire away from their nuclear families. Now I cannot offhand say this is a 'bad' thing, for perhaps many are satisfied with being away from the basic family.

But a consequence, I think, is the isolation of the last generation from the present one, a loss of all the life experience and perhaps 'wisdom' that will not be shared as it was in earlier times when the kids took care of their parents.

I think this 'independence' of the older generation, through social security pensions has separated the generations and perhaps led to the lack of respect you note in the post.

maybe?


amicus...

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

SeverusMax...on another thread, while advocating total personal freedom, you brought up sex...between consenting individuals past the age of majority, I assume.

Nothing in any of my writings have ever implied anything less than total freedom of individual action. I do have reservations about public schools, public acceptance in general and formal contractual agreements such a marriage, as defined between a man and a woman, as applying to all.

Just wanted to answer that criticism.

No, I am not paranoid, but are you familiar with 'retirement communitities' in the 'sunbelt' where all the gramps and grammies have gone?

Much of this is due to 'social security', I think, which enables older folks to retire away from their nuclear families. Now I cannot offhand say this is a 'bad' thing, for perhaps many are satisfied with being away from the basic family.

But a consequence, I think, is the isolation of the last generation from the present one, a loss of all the life experience and perhaps 'wisdom' that will not be shared as it was in earlier times when the kids took care of their parents.

I think this 'independence' of the older generation, through social security pensions has separated the generations and perhaps led to the lack of respect you note in the post.

maybe?


amicus...

One never knows what might have caused it. Hmmm....I still think it's odd that good ol' FDR made the age of collecting beyond the normal lifespan.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

That's city.

I'm talking about B.F.E.....Dixie, land of cotton.

Hmmm.....there's a thought for you.

 

[Wildcard Ky]

You need to live in the south...much of what you've mentioned still happens here.

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That's one of the many things that I love about the south. Southern hospitality and all that.

 

[amicus]

Two years ago they grew cotton in a field a few blocks away, I had to ask what the crop was. Last year they had a new crop in, I had to ask again, Soybeans, both unfamiliar plants to this Washington kid.

amicus...

 

[cloudy]

Two years ago they grew cotton in a field a few blocks away, I had to ask what the crop was. Last year they had a new crop in, I had to ask again, Soybeans, both unfamiliar plants to this Washington kid.

amicus...

cotton and corn are the staples around here.

 

[kendo1]

The trouble is: not many grandparents can help out with modern technology.
In times past, the older generation could fix things.

Civility and interaction are another matter.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

In times past, the older generation could fix things.

but it was more about wisdom... knowing things, rather than doing...
I don't doubt that elders have a great deal of wisdom to share that we don't hear, because we've stopped listening.

 

[angela146]

Then there's another old-fashioned value: *earning* respect.

If you would like to have the respect of your children in your old age, try treating your children with simple human decency in their youth.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Then there's another old-fashioned value: *earning* respect.

If you would like to have the respect of your children in your old age, try treating your children with simple human decency in their youth.

Also true, I would agree.