No Relief in Sight for the USS Lincoln

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A little something from the USS Abraham Lincoln that you don't hear about on the evening news.



Guest Column: No Relief in Sight for the Lincoln

By Ed Stanton

It has been three weeks since my ship, the USS Abraham Lincoln, arrived off the Sumatran coast to aid the hundreds of thousands of victims of the Dec. 26 tsunami that ravaged their coastline. I'd like to say that this has been a rewarding experience for us, but it has not: Instead, it has been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise made even more difficult by the Indonesian government and a traveling circus of so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces.


What really irritated me was a scene I witnessed in the Lincoln's wardroom a few days ago. I went in for breakfast as I usually do, expecting to see the usual crowd of ship's company officers in khakis and air wing aviators in flight suits, drinking coffee and exchanging rumors about when our ongoing humanitarian mission in Sumatra is going to end.

What I saw instead was a mob of civilians sitting around like they owned the place. They wore various colored vests with logos on the back including Save The Children, World Health Organization and the dreaded baby blue vest of the United Nations. Mixed in with this crowd were a bunch of reporters, cameramen and Indonesian military officers in uniform. They all carried cameras, sunglasses and fanny packs like tourists on their way to Disneyland.

My warship had been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders overnight.


As I went through the breakfast line, I overheard one of the U.N. strap-hangers, a longhaired guy with a beard, make a sarcastic comment to one of our food servers. He said something along the lines of "Nice china, really makes me feel special," in reference to the fact that we were eating off of paper plates that day. It was all I could do to keep from jerking him off his feet and choking him, because I knew that the reason we were eating off paper plates was to save dishwashing water so that we would have more water to send ashore and save lives. That plus the fact that he had no business being there in the first place.

My attitude towards these unwanted no-loads grew steadily worse that day as I learned more from one of our junior officers who was assigned to escort a group of them. It turns out that they had come to Indonesia to "assess the damage" from the Dec. 26 tsunami.

Well, they could have turned on any TV in the world and seen that the damage was total devastation. When they got to Sumatra with no plan, no logistics support and no five-star hotels to stay in, they threw themselves on the mercy of the U.S. Navy, which, unfortunately, took them in. I guess our senior brass was hoping for some good PR since this was about the time that the U.N. was calling the United States "stingy" with our relief donations.

As a result of having to host these people, our severely over-tasked SH-60 Seahawk helos, which were carrying tons of food and water every day to the most inaccessible places in and around Banda Aceh, are now used in great part to ferry these "relief workers" from place to place every day and bring them back to their guest bedrooms on the Lincoln at night. Despite their avowed dedication to helping the victims, these relief workers will not spend the night in-country, and have made us their guardians by default.


When our wardroom treasurer approached the leader of the relief group and asked him who was paying the mess bill for all the meals they ate, the fellow replied, "We aren't paying, you can try to bill the U.N. if you want to."

In addition to the relief workers, we routinely get tasked with hauling around reporters and various low-level "VIPs," which further wastes valuable helo lift that could be used to carry supplies. We had to dedicate two helos and a C-2 cargo plane for America-hater Dan Rather and his entourage of door holders and briefcase carriers from CBS News. Another camera crew was from MTV. I doubt if we'll get any good PR from them, since the cable channel is banned in Muslim countries. We also had to dedicate a helo and crew to fly around the vice mayor of Phoenix, Ariz., one day. Everyone wants in on the action.


As for the Indonesian officers, while their job is apparently to encourage our leaving as soon as possible, all they seem to do in the meantime is smoke cigarettes. They want our money and our help but they don't want their population to see that Americans are doing far more for them in two weeks than their own government has ever done or will ever do for them.

To add a kick in the face to the USA and the Lincoln, the Indonesian government announced it would not allow us to use their airspace for routine training and flight proficiency operations while we are saving the lives of their people, some of whom are wearing Osama bin Ladin T-shirts as they grab at our food and water. The ship has to steam out into international waters to launch and recover jets, which makes our helos have to fly longer distances and burn more fuel.


What is even worse than trying to help people who totally reject everything we stand for is that our combat readiness has suffered for it.


An aircraft carrier is an instrument of national policy and the big stick she carries is her air wing. An air wing has a set of very demanding skills and they are highly perishable. We train hard every day at sea to conduct actual air strikes, air defense, maritime surveillance, close air support and many other missions - not to mention taking off and landing on a ship at sea

Our safety regulations state that if a pilot does not get a night carrier landing every seven days, he has to be re-qualified to land on the ship. Today we have pilots who have now been over 25 days without a trap due to being unable to use Indonesian airspace to train. Normally it is when we are at sea that our readiness is at its very peak. Thanks to the Indonesian government, we have to waive our own safety rules just to get our pilots off the deck.

In other words, the longer we stay here helping these people, the more dangerous it gets for us to operate. We have already lost one helicopter, which crashed in Banda Aceh while taking sailors ashore to unload supplies from the C-130s. There were no relief workers on that one.

I'm all for helping the less fortunate, but it is time to give this mission to somebody other than the U.S. Navy. Our ship was supposed to be home on Feb 3 and now we have no idea how long we will be here. American taxpayers are spending millions per day to keep this ship at sea and getting no training value out of it. As a result, we will come home in a lower state of readiness than when we left due to the lack of flying while supporting the tsunami relief effort.

I hope we get some good PR in the Muslim world out of it. After all, this is Americans saving the lives of Muslims. I have my doubts.
 
Oh wow there a shock ingrates. :rolleyes: Why am I not suprised that there are people like that in the world.
 
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Queersetti said:


No, they don't own our ship. Try reading the piece.
 
3 whole weeks of thinking of others before himself.

Yeah, I can see why some would have a problem with that.
 
I see you libs don't have shit to say when hit with the facts.
 
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D.T. said:
No, they don't own our ship. Try reading the piece.

The piece refers to "civilians", and makes no indication that those civilians are of any nationality than American.

The right has not completely turned this nation into a banana republic yet. The military are still subordinate to civilian authority.
 
D.T. said:
I see you libs don't have shit to say when hit with the facts.

What facts? Some suckass pissing and moaning about having to be unselfish for probably the first time in his life? Some asshole once again perpetuating the "All muslims are evil beings" bullshit?
 
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Queersetti said:
The piece refers to "civilians", and makes no indication that those civilians are of any nationality than American.

The right has not completely turned this nation into a banana republic yet. The military are still subordinate to civilian authority.


He stated they acted like they owned the place referring to his ship. You said "They do." No, they don't.
 
Freya said:
What facts? Some suckass pissing and moaning about having to be unselfish for probably the first time in his life? Some asshole once again perpetuating the "All muslims are evil beings" bullshit?


Freya you're an idiot. Why don't you try reading the entire piece slooooowly and absorbing exactly what he is saying. You have no idea what it's like to be in the Navy so you have no clue.

Continue to live in the clouds in your pussyass Socialist country.
 
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D.T. said:
He stated they acted like they owned the place referring to his ship. You said "They do." No, they don't.

Yes, they do. Or has the GOP privatized the Navy, too?
 
D.T. said:
Freya you're an idiot. Why don't you try reading the entire piece slooooowly and absorbing exactly what he is saying. You have no idea what it's like to be in the Navy so you have no clue.

Continue to live in the clouds in your pussyass Socialist country.

He's been there for three weeks. And so far he's complaining about having to give help to Muslims, aid workers, and the UN.

Part of being in any military is giving up the mindset that you are the most important person in the world - apparently he missed that class.
 
D.T. said:
Freya you're an idiot. Why don't you try reading the entire piece slooooowly and absorbing exactly what he is saying. You have no idea what it's like to be in the Navy so you have no clue.

Continue to live in the clouds in your pussyass Socialist country.

Not for anything but I find you words do not match the AV pic. I can just picture the girl making the argument you just made wile being tied up like that. LOL
 
Freya said:
He's been there for three weeks. And so far he's complaining about having to give help to Muslims, aid workers, and the UN.

Part of being in any military is giving up the mindset that you are the most important person in the world - apparently he missed that class.


He's complaining because they are acting like he and his shipmates owe them something. They don't owe them jack shit. He's right, they shouldn't be there. It's our suckass worthless politicians that make that decision.



and just so you understand what I'm saying completely, I mean on their ship.
 
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Queersetti said:
Yes, they do. Or has the GOP privatized the Navy, too?



So you think all these civilians belong on that ship? That they basically own the ship? Is that what you are saying?

Dude, you need to step away from that glass dick. Just say no.
 
D.T. said:
He's complaining because they are acting like he and his shipmates owe them something. They don't owe them jack shit. He's right, they shouldn't be there. It's our suckass worthless politicians that make that decision.



and just so you understand what I'm saying completely, I mean on their ship.

No. They should be there. Along with everyone and anyone else that has the capabilities of helping people.

And while they are there, they need to pull their selfish heads out of their asses and realize that the world does not revolve around them, or the US navy.
 
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D.T. said:
So you think all these civilians belong on that ship? That they basically own the ship? Is that what you are saying?

Dude, you need to step away from that glass dick. Just say no.



Who paid for that ship? As far as I know, it was the taxpayers. If you know otherwise, please, by all means, enlighten me.

It is a fundamental principle of the American system of government that the military is subordinate to civilian control. If the civilian leadership of the military says that the aid workers belong there, it's the military's duty to do as they are told.
 
Freya said:
No. They should be there. Along with everyone and anyone else that has the capabilities of helping people.

And while they are there, they need to pull their selfish heads out of their asses and realize that the world does not revolve around them, or the US navy.

and just so you understand what I'm saying completely, I mean on their ship.
 
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Queersetti said:
Who paid for that ship? As far as I know, it was the taxpayers. If you know otherwise, please, by all means, enlighten me.

It is a fundamental principle of the American system of government that the military is subordinate to civilian control. If the civilian leadership of the military says that the aid workers belong there, it's the military's duty to do as they are told.


Yeah, yeah. :rolleyes:
They don't belong on the ship. The US Navy is not a taxi service, nor a hotel.

I know your brand of politician would like to have everyone on the ship singing We Are The World and joining hands with the Clintons and showing the world how diverse and open minded we are. But sorry, it doesn't work that way.
 
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Sad...

That's just how it seems to work in this damn wrapped world. Those who are doing something truly good at best get no recognition, and often get their actions labeled as evil. Those who do get recognition as 'good' are often bastards who just spun a good lie.

Especially if the US is involved... Apparently it's OK for some countries to give little to nothing, but if the US doesn't pick up the lion share of the bill for the natural disaster that hardly touched it in any way then they're stingy. :(

Well, I can tell you that at the very least it won good PR with me. :) Though, I'm no muslim. It's things like this that build up trust and liking of the US in people like me so much that we can then half-heartedly support things like the Iraq war, for instance, though there doesn't seem to be great justification for it. Maybe it's a bad war of conquest, I don't know, nor care. The US is doing it, and they're way better than any other force that could be in control there.
 
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D.T. said:
Yeah, yeah. :rolleyes:
They don't belong on the ship. The US Navy is not a taxi service, nor a hotel.

If the President of the United States says it a taxi service, it's a taxi service.
 
D.T. said:
and just so you understand what I'm saying completely, I mean on their ship.

What does being on the ship have to do with the self pitying article he wrote?


Wolk, no one is condemning the Us for this. But the fact remains that they should be there, along with everyone else who is. And while they are there, they should be focusing on the people who truly need them, regardless of race, religion, or politics, and not on their own issues.
 
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