"no credible threat"

Ishmael

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That is the assessment on the pat of the Obama administration regarding ISIS and the plane to import thousands of Syrian refugee's. The exact statement is, "the latest intelligence surrounding the attacks, and — while noting that there was no specific or credible threat to the United States — reviewed our homeland security posture to ensure we are doing everything necessary to protect the American people,"

No credible threat huh? Are going back to the parsing of words? The entire statement hinges on how one wants to define the word "credible." Kinda like "it all depends on what the definition of is, is."

Item. The FBI has 1000+ open investigations re. ISIS activity within the US. It occurs to me that some of them muct be "credible."

Item. Every time Homeland Security/NSA go before congress to petition for more money and ever more intrusive methods of spying on the American people they refer to hundreds of plots that have been foiled as justification for this increased funding and snooping capabilities. Wouldn't "foiled plots" have represented "credible" threats?

I think this might be a case of paying more attention to what the administrations hands are doing as opposed to watching their lips. The words from on high appear to be in direct conflict to their actions.

In the same presser we were assured that these Syrian refugee's would be thoroughly vetted. Just how is that to take place? It's not as if we have diplomatic relations with Syria and access to their internal database. And giving the NSA credit for actually having penetrated the Syrian internal records, just how robust and credible are those records to begin with? We have no assurance that those records even exist let alone any veracity.

Further, a reporter for the UK Daily Mail has already demonstrated that perfectly counterfeited Syrian passports are available allowing the procurer to assume any identity they want.

It is clear to me that this administration firmly believes that 'Humanitarianism' trumps the governments sworn task of insuring the security of the citizenry. The Constitution is quite clear in it's mandate for security, this is an unambiguous requirement laid out in the Preamble.

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Humanitarianism is optional and not even mentioned in the Constitution. There is nothing in the document discussing providing succor to foreign nationals that would do us harm.

Ishmael
 
USSA government has already achieved a corruption level that's irreversible, and it's only increasing.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

The only thing more foolish than believing anything any part of the USSA government pimps today is traitorously financing its continued destruction of what remains.

You get the exact government you pay for.
 
That is the assessment on the pat of the Obama administration regarding ISIS and the plane to import thousands of Syrian refugee's. The exact statement is, "the latest intelligence surrounding the attacks, and — while noting that there was no specific or credible threat to the United States — reviewed our homeland security posture to ensure we are doing everything necessary to protect the American people,"

No credible threat huh? Are going back to the parsing of words? The entire statement hinges on how one wants to define the word "credible." Kinda like "it all depends on what the definition of is, is."

Item. The FBI has 1000+ open investigations re. ISIS activity within the US. It occurs to me that some of them muct be "credible."

Item. Every time Homeland Security/NSA go before congress to petition for more money and ever more intrusive methods of spying on the American people they refer to hundreds of plots that have been foiled as justification for this increased funding and snooping capabilities. Wouldn't "foiled plots" have represented "credible" threats?

I think this might be a case of paying more attention to what the administrations hands are doing as opposed to watching their lips. The words from on high appear to be in direct conflict to their actions.

In the same presser we were assured that these Syrian refugee's would be thoroughly vetted. Just how is that to take place? It's not as if we have diplomatic relations with Syria and access to their internal database. And giving the NSA credit for actually having penetrated the Syrian internal records, just how robust and credible are those records to begin with? We have no assurance that those records even exist let alone any veracity.

Further, a reporter for the UK Daily Mail has already demonstrated that perfectly counterfeited Syrian passports are available allowing the procurer to assume any identity they want.

It is clear to me that this administration firmly believes that 'Humanitarianism' trumps the governments sworn task of insuring the security of the citizenry. The Constitution is quite clear in it's mandate for security, this is an unambiguous requirement laid out in the Preamble.

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Humanitarianism is optional and not even mentioned in the Constitution. There is nothing in the document discussing providing succor to foreign nationals that would do us harm.

Ishmael

Are you offering a solution?
 
The refugees are fleeing persecution from ISIS. If ISIS comes to America, those refugees will be the ones they'll go after.
 
Your type listened to G.W. when he said WMD where in Iraq. What suddenly learn your lesson?

This is a chance to cherry pick the best of Syrian entrepreneurs, middle class shop owners and teachers. Well the best left long ago but still a good chance to snatch up the best of the rest.

Is it an accomplishment though, to have the most highly educated cabbies in the world?
 
Almost the stupidest thing ever said on this board... Almost

It's in the top 100.

They're going to go after "the great Satan." Murdering their own moderates is a hobby, planning domestic attacks against the Western Nations is their profession.

Ishmael
 
Almost the stupidest thing ever said on this board... Almost

If Hitler had made it Britain any Jews who had fled from him before would not have had the slightest mercy shown. Unless a quick bullet is a mercy over a death camp.

Outspoken refugees can often be hurt by going after family still in region. If ISIS deserters, returning fighters or out spoken refugees start getting killed in America then ISIS is there with good enough networks. A huge conventional army of the US being deployed to blitzkrieg across the region might invoke organized attacks in the US proper and maybe quickly.

Not likely to happen. Leftist Mexico will invade first.
 
They're going to go after "the great Satan." Murdering their own moderates is a hobby, planning domestic attacks against the Western Nations is their profession.

Ishmael

That was Al-Qaeda. ISIS flips it around. Still dangerous as fuck! Hobbyist are harder to track then groups which started as a database.
 
If Hitler had made it Britain any Jews who had fled from him before would not have had the slightest mercy shown. Unless a quick bullet is a mercy over a death camp.

Outspoken refugees can often be hurt by going after family still in region. If ISIS deserters, returning fighters or out spoken refugees start getting killed in America then ISIS is there with good enough networks. A huge conventional army of the US being deployed to blitzkrieg across the region might invoke organized attacks in the US proper and maybe quickly.

Not likely to happen. Leftist Mexico will invade first.

This post will make the list too. Hitler would have had to invade and subdue the UK BEFORE your statement could take effect.

Silly.

Ishmael
 
Just remember immigration is just shifting of people on earth from one place to another. According to NASA, there are 7 galaxies around our galaxy. In our galaxy alone there are millions of planet.

In the grand perspective, one should not be worried about a few people shifting from one part of the planet to another.

Here is the link from NASA

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/713435main_nasa_media_rse.pdf
 
Just remember immigration is just shifting of people on earth from one place to another. According to NASA, there are 7 galaxies around our galaxy. In our galaxy alone there are millions of planet.

In the grand perspective, one should not be worried about a few people shifting from one part of the planet to another.

Here is the link from NASA

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/713435main_nasa_media_rse.pdf

Profoundly insignificant given the reality of today.

Ishmael
 
PAST?

Ish, he's been making it quite clear that it is presently not nearly the threat of CO2...

:eek:
 
The refugees are fleeing persecution from ISIS. If ISIS comes to America, those refugees will be the ones they'll go after.

Really?

:eek:

That's who they went after in Paris three times now?

Was that blown up Russian airliner full of "refugees?"
 
The refugees are fleeing persecution from ISIS. If ISIS comes to America, those refugees will be the ones they'll go after.

So is that why you are in favor of letting in any and all refugees... so you and your ilk can rat them out so that ISIS might spare the likes of you.

Thanks hilarious!
 
It looks like Obama isn't the smartest guy in the room after all. He's unable to grasp the simple fact that our country is under the threat of an attack.

No wonder he refused to release his grades.
 
Sorry, I was laughing so hard I forgot to include phrodeau's quote.

"phrodeau The refugees are fleeing persecution from ISIS. If ISIS comes to America, those refugees will be the ones they'll go after."

You managed to make even less sense with that explanation.
 
It looks like Obama isn't the smartest guy in the room after all. He's unable to grasp the simple fact that our country is under the threat of an attack.

No wonder he refused to release his grades.

Get over it.. Really? Same old responses for the last 8 years.. come up with something original already.
 
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