Nigeria

[AllyRose]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nigeria-girl-among-thousands-of-divorced-children/

"Maimuna's former husband is demanding back his money, but Abdullahi has spent it on land. And Saidu already has land - what he wants is cash, so he can look for another bride. Abdullahi does not know where he will find it.

Asked if he will treat his five younger daughters differently, he is ambivalent. The eyes in his chiseled face narrow, and he looks down at the ground.

"I would allow my daughters to go to school if I had the money. I have seen what happens, otherwise," he says. "But my reason is poverty, always financial problems. What can I do but give them out in marriage?"

Saidu, in the meantime, says he no longer cares for Maimuna and will move ahead with his life.

"This time I will marry a girl of 12, so that she will do what I want to do," he says. "Because if you marry a girl who is older, then she will not listen to you."

As he speaks, his eyes slide to the porch where Maimuna's 10-year-old sister, Hafsat, is cuddling a neighbor's baby. A sly smile curls his lips."

 

[AllyRose]

Strengthen the U.N.

Send in lots of tanks and establish protected zones.

Forcibly evacuate the women and children.

Send. In. The. Drones.

 

[eyer]

Strengthen the U.N.

Send in lots of tanks and establish protected zones.

Forcibly evacuate the women and children.

Send. In. The. Drones.

Why?

It's a peaceful religion.

Let it be.

Why do you hate Islam?

 

[nowisthetime]

Not sure if this thread is used to further bash Islam, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, Ally, because I think you are a very fair and caring poster.

Of course Eyer had to come in here and vomit on this informative thread, once again he cannot tell the difference between Islamism and Islam. But he doesn't want to, he is content in knowing they are all a bunch of ragheads blowing things up.

There has always been tensions in Nigeria between the EXTREMIST North and the westernized, Christian South it even goes far back as the Biafra civil war of the late 60s in which the Christian Igbos wanted to have a separate state and lost. The tensions have recently come to light as witnessed by the terrorism that is being done by the extremist group Boku Haram. .

So we know what happens when religion is used to conquer and cause harm. But that shouldn't define an entire group since we can't stereotype all white American males as drunk, power-hungry,serial killing, racist, child molesters.

 

[eyer]

Very nice Buddha imitation.

 

[nowisthetime]

Nice diversion........

 

[jomcb57]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nigeria-girl-among-thousands-of-divorced-children/

"Maimuna's former husband is demanding back his money, but Abdullahi has spent it on land. And Saidu already has land - what he wants is cash, so he can look for another bride. Abdullahi does not know where he will find it.

Asked if he will treat his five younger daughters differently, he is ambivalent. The eyes in his chiseled face narrow, and he looks down at the ground.

"I would allow my daughters to go to school if I had the money. I have seen what happens, otherwise," he says. "But my reason is poverty, always financial problems. What can I do but give them out in marriage?"

Saidu, in the meantime, says he no longer cares for Maimuna and will move ahead with his life.

"This time I will marry a girl of 12, so that she will do what I want to do," he says. "Because if you marry a girl who is older, then she will not listen to you."

As he speaks, his eyes slide to the porch where Maimuna's 10-year-old sister, Hafsat, is cuddling a neighbor's baby. A sly smile curls his lips."

I know that different cultures do some things the way I would not. But, "Marry a 12 year old", that's just sick.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Not sure if this thread is used to further bash Islam, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, Ally, because I think you are a very fair and caring poster.

Of course Eyer had to come in here and vomit on this informative thread, once again he cannot tell the difference between Islamism and Islam. But he doesn't want to, he is content in knowing they are all a bunch of ragheads blowing things up.

There has always been tensions in Nigeria between the EXTREMIST North and the westernized, Christian South it even goes far back as the Biafra civil war of the late 60s in which the Christian Igbos wanted to have a separate state and lost. The tensions have recently come to light as witnessed by the terrorism that is being done by the extremist group Boku Haram. .

So we know what happens when religion is used to conquer and cause harm.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xyppwBTN1r5cg2h.gif

But that shouldn't define an entire group since we can't stereotype all white American males as drunk power-hungry,,serial killing, racist, child molesters.

http://media.tumblr.com/78bfc412eb72c5c76f71fd79fa831637/tumblr_inline_mt8eo1e2pA1qajehj.gif

Nice diversion........

Let's face it....you got Eyer sprung.

I pity the poor cactus out there soaking up all his frustrated thrust damage!

 

[islandman]

So we know what happens when religion is used to conquer and cause harm. But that shouldn't define an entire group since we can't stereotype all white American males as drunk, power-hungry,serial killing, racist, child molesters.

Well said.

 

[AllyRose]

Not sure if this thread is used to further bash Islam, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, Ally, because I think you are a very fair and caring poster.

Of course Eyer had to come in here and vomit on this informative thread, once again he cannot tell the difference between Islamism and Islam. But he doesn't want to, he is content in knowing they are all a bunch of ragheads blowing things up.

There has always been tensions in Nigeria between the EXTREMIST North and the westernized, Christian South it even goes far back as the Biafra civil war of the late 60s in which the Christian Igbos wanted to have a separate state and lost. The tensions have recently come to light as witnessed by the terrorism that is being done by the extremist group Boku Haram. .

So we know what happens when religion is used to conquer and cause harm. But that shouldn't define an entire group since we can't stereotype all white American males as drunk, power-hungry,serial killing, racist, child molesters.

I'm not trying to bash Islam, just the pedophiles that use it to slake their lusts.

 

[AllyRose]

My emotions have just been getting the better of me for the past few days. I need a holiday.

 

[eyer]

My emotions have just been getting the better of me for the past few days. I need a holiday.

Fuck that holiday...

...your emotions are showing you in technicolor the evil in this world and your logic is telling you that it MUST STOP!

Frustration builds as you stymie yourself on what - exactly - can you do to STOP it?

And then the holiday idea enters to lure you away from focusing on the exact question your conscience is demanding you address...

...relatively speaking, almost everyone whose conscience is still alive in awareness of actual evil picks the holiday door at this point. But how can an honest one even begin to enjoy a holiday fully knowing there are children in this world in so much danger and in so much need?

The answer, of course, is one must brush totally aside such reality to enjoy their holiday...

...and that's what most of us do.

And that's the choice you wrestle with now.

 

[eyer]

Nice diversion........

Yw.

Like I said:

Very nice Buddha.

BTW:

Since you seem to be stuck on the politically-correct and thus very convenient "Islamism vs Islam" facade...

...can you tell us which of your options the men who enslave the young girls in the OP practice?

Is it the "Islamism" you claim is the practice of only the extremists and radicals - you know, the bad Muslims...

...or are they practitioners of just what you claim is good Islam itself?

BTW:

Since the creator of Islam practiced the very same atrocities against young females as the OP presents, and that he waged terroristic war against those who would not submit to his Allah...

...you would certainly categorize Mohammed as the creator of your "Islamism" too, right?

I understand directly addressing these points without including your usual bigotry is a lot to ask, and having the bigot cheer leading squad present to rah rah you on is tough to ignore...

...but you can at least try, can't you Boobs?

Thanx.

 

[nowisthetime]

Yw.

Like I said:

Very nice Buddha.

BTW:

Since you seem to be stuck on the politically-correct and thus very convenient "Islamism vs Islam" facade...

...can you tell us which of your options the men who enslave the young girls in the OP practice?

Is it the "Islamism" you claim is the practice of only the extremists and radicals - you know, the bad Muslims...

...or are they practitioners of just what you claim is good Islam itself?

BTW:

Since the creator of Islam practiced the very same atrocities against young females as the OP presents, and that he waged terroristic war against those who would not submit to his Allah...

...you would certainly categorize Mohammed as the creator of your "Islamism" too, right?

I understand directly addressing these points without including your usual bigotry is a lot to ask, and having the bigot cheer leading squad present to rah rah you on is tough to ignore...

...but you can at least try, can't you Boobs?

Thanx.

Exactly how am I a bigot? because I hand old, racist, bitter white men their asses?

I don't know what point you are trying to make you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

As for during the times of Muhammad, it wasn't uncommon to take a wife who has just hit puberty as life expectancy was extremely low. This has been common in virtually all cultures. Why did Islam allow polygamy? Because during times of war, young women would often be destitute and resort to prostitution, a financially stable man marrying these women would save them from a life of desperate prostitution. That was the theory. Let's look at the definition of 'pedophile', a pedophile is sexually interested in those who have not yet hit puberty.

There are those who under the name of Christianity murdered those who did not submit (Inquisition), promoted slavery, lynching, and discrimination all under the name of Christ. Should Christianity be defined by those individuals?

Should Roman Catholicism be defined as priests molesting young children?


Not sure what part of people twist religion in evil and selfish ways you do not understand. There is just way too much focus on Islam on this entire board.

So you and your fellow bitter old fearful men can continue posting links until exhaustion of how bad these "ragheads" are, that still would not define Islam.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Smells like Oak Tree Boy got his desert-dwelling "azz" handed to him.

With cactus brambles yet!

http://oldcatman-xxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/hysterical-laugh.gif

 

[eyer]

Exactly how am I a bigot? because I hand old, racist, bitter white men their asses?

Too friggin' funny...

I don't know what point you are trying to make you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Let me try to be more clear so you don't have more excuse to play confused...

1. The OP exposes the atrocity of men lording over young females in Nigeria.

2. These folks - men and young females - happen to be Muslim, which means their faith is known as Islam.

3. You entered the thread contending I don't know "the difference between Islamism and Islam", and then trying to differentiate them yourself but not in the least making that "difference" clear at all.

4. So, I specifically asked you which of your different camps do the men in the OP belong to: Islamism or Islam.

5. I also inquired which of your different camps the creator of the religion of peace called Islam belonged to, since he also was a murderous thief, waged terrorist jihad, and treated young females exactly as the men in the OP do today.

Myself?

I reject your (and others') politcally-correct fabrication of something called "Islamism" at all, especially because it gives you an out to blame evil acts on...

...but also because, as the Muslim men in the OP prove and Mohammed himself proved, you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

You seem to be fixated on establishing that there is good Islam and bad Islamism...

...which is as inane to me even if the same illogic was applied to Christianity, Judaism, Zoroastrianism or every other man-made religion.

So again, I ask you:

Which camp do the men exposed in the OP belong to, in your opinion...

...and which camp was Mohammed the leader of?

 

[eyer]

There are those who under the name of Christianity murdered those who did not submit (Inquisition), promoted slavery, lynching, and discrimination all under the name of Christ. Should Christianity be defined by those individuals?

The definition of man-made Christianity must absolutely include all the acts of individuals who profess themselves to be Christian.

Should Roman Catholicism be defined as priests molesting young children?

Man-made Roman Catholicism's definition must certainly include the acts of its priests against young children; only certified apologists would claim anything else.

Not sure what part of people twist religion in evil and selfish ways you do not understand. There is just way too much focus on Islam on this entire board.

Of course there is...

...that's exactly why apologists as yourself prefer that "twist" for your "Islamism" fabrication: so you can dust off Muslim individuals' evil acts away from your hallowed, man-made Islam.

So you and your fellow bitter old fearful men can continue posting links until exhaustion of how bad these "ragheads" are, that still would not define Islam.

That's cute...

...I've never even come close to posting the word "raghead" on this Board before, but your bigoted azz doesn't give a crap about facts like that.

And just like the acts of all individual Christians and all individual Roman Catholics...

....the acts of all individual Muslims most certainly must be included in any and every honest definition of man-made Islam.

 

[Busybody]

Ramadan in Nigeria: Massive Attack on Five Churches, Boko Haram Burnt Five Churches, Over 100 Worshipers Killed

and the BLOND FUCKTARD is worrying about useless shit

 

[nowisthetime]

^Ignoring the old wind


So eyers, I will put it simple, the acts of various religions should be noted but it should not define the entire belief system nor individuals who choose to practice it. If you don't agree with that, then it's fine. But to constantly pick out Islam and whine about how it is such a terrible religion doesn't really solve anything. If that's the case, America was founded on death, destruction and greed, so let's define America in that way.

 

[Busybody]

Bloated KNEE GRASS pig is here

I can tell

IT STINKS

 

[eyer]

So eyers, I will put it simple, the acts of various religions should be noted but it should not define the entire belief system nor individuals who choose to practice it. If you don't agree with that, then it's fine.

That's swell, Boobs...

...but, having introduced "Islamism and Islam" into this thread and maintaining that Islamism is bad and Islam is good as the stark difference between them, why won't you simply answer the questions:

1. Are the Muslim men exposed in the OP practicing Islamism or Islam?

2. Did Mohammed practice Islamism or Islam?

But to constantly pick out Islam and whine about how it is such a terrible religion doesn't really solve anything.

One could post the very same thing about those who constantly pick out others who they deem to be old, white, racist men and whine about how they are such terrible people, doesn't really solve anything, either.

But you seem to love to do it, anyway...

...what point were you trying to make?

If that's the case, America was founded on death, destruction and greed, so let's define America in that way.

America was most definitely founded upon death, destruction and greed, and any honest definition of it must absolutely include those facts...

...is there any logical reason at all that you seem to need to imagine I have any issue with truth?

 

[nowisthetime]

That's swell, Boobs...

...but, having introduced "Islamism and Islam" into this thread and maintaining that Islamism is bad and Islam is good as the stark difference between them, why won't you simply answer the questions:

1. Are the Muslim men exposed in the OP practicing Islamism or Islam?

2. Did Mohammed practice Islamism or Islam?



One could post the very same thing about those who constantly pick out others who they deem to be old, white, racist men and whine about how they are such terrible people, doesn't really solve anything, either.

But you seem to love to do it, anyway...

...what point were you trying to make?



America was most definitely founded upon death, destruction and greed, and any honest definition of it must absolutely include those facts...

...is there any logical reason at all that you seem to need to imagine I have any issue with truth?

We are going around in circles here.

America was most definitely founded on death, destruction, and greed and yet the far right wingers only seem to bitch about several things: blacks, immigrants, the gheys, and Muslims. America was founded on death, destruction, and greed but that shouldn't solely define the entire nation, it's also a land of opportunity, innovation, etc.

You only choose to see the negative and the worst of a group of people. It's always about what the "Other" has done wrong. Now all of a sudden you and your other right wing cronies care about 'the poor children' when in reality it's just another fuel that you use to bash Islam. You don't give a shit about these victims only to feed your bigotry and your content in feeling some type of superiority over a group of people.

I have noticed that you only seem to call people bigots when it involves speaking out against white bigotry despite all the constant racial slurs thrown on here by your fellow right wing peers, you ignore that. Why? Because it doesn't affect you. Do you scold bunnyslippers for his frivolous use of the N word around here as you accuse me of being a bigot? No.

And I could care less what that babbling bunnyslippers thinks about me because he is on ignore. I tuned out to him. You hear that bunnyslippers? Your petty, first grade insults are tiring, stop following me around like a puppy. Blah blah blah

 

[eyer]

We are going around in circles here.

America was most definitely founded on death, destruction, and greed and yet the far right wingers only seem to bitch about several things: blacks, immigrants, the gheys, and Muslims. America was founded on death, destruction, and greed but that shouldn't solely define the entire nation, it's also a land of opportunity, innovation, etc.

You only choose to see the negative and the worst of a group of people. It's always about what the "Other" has done wrong. Now all of a sudden you and your other right wing cronies care about 'the poor children' when in reality it's just another fuel that you use to bash Islam. You don't give a shit about these victims only to feed your bigotry and your content in feeling some type of superiority over a group of people.

I have noticed that you only seem to call people bigots when it involves speaking out against white bigotry despite all the constant racial slurs thrown on here by your fellow right wing peers, you ignore that. Why? Because it doesn't affect you. Do you scold bunnyslippers for his frivolous use of the N word around here as you accuse me of being a bigot? No.

And I could care less what that babbling bunnyslippers thinks about me because he is on ignore. I tuned out to him. You hear that bunnyslippers? Your petty, first grade insults are tiring, stop following me around like a puppy. Blah blah blah

You can sure blow a lot out of your azz, Boobs...

...good job!

But why are you intentionally not answering the two questions you brought into this thread?

Here they are again:

1. Are the Muslim men exposed in the OP practicing Islamism or Islam?

2. Did Mohammed practice Islamism or Islam?

 

[nowisthetime]

You can sure blow a lot out of your azz, Boobs...

...good job!

But why are you intentionally not answering the two questions you brought into this thread?

Here they are again:

1. Are the Muslim men exposed in the OP practicing Islamism or Islam?

2. Did Mohammed practice Islamism or Islam?

1. What difference does it make? The only reason you are here on this thread and you seem to 'care' is because the culprits are Muslim. Their religion is Islam but this type of extremism is an example of Islamism. See the difference? Another reason you can say, "see, these ragheads are violent." Self fulfilling prophecy.

2. Who cares about labels? Mohammed was a product of his time. He was neither good nor evil as right wingers try to classify people.

But he may be no different than those European colonizers who used force to conquer parts of the world. Do you see right wingers preaching against that and calling the colonizers thugs? Or some famous celebrated figures in American history who have used bloodshed to prove a point? No, they REVERE THEM!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I have noticed that you only seem to call people bigots when it involves speaking out against white bigotry despite all the constant racial slurs thrown on here by your fellow right wing peers, you ignore that. Why? Because it doesn't affect you. Do you scold bunnyslippers for his frivolous use of the N word around here as you accuse me of being a bigot? No.

And I could care less what that babbling bunnyslippers thinks about me because he is on ignore. I tuned out to him. You hear that bunnyslippers? Your petty, first grade insults are tiring, stop following me around like a puppy. Blah blah blah

Here's a little somethin' somethin' about Oak Tree Boy that may provide some backdrop to this.

Back when he first appeared on these shores, his very first schtick was to implement and broadcast "The List®." This List® consisted of people he'd interact with and deem to be below his standards to waste time in conversation. Every time he met someone he didn't like, bang-zoom, you went on The List® and he let you and everyone else know it by displaying the names in a vertical row each time it grew. He considered those beneath him the bigots and racists and yappy raconteurs he purports to disdain. Fair enough so far. But becoming a member to this club wasn't only limited to his interactions with people. You could get on it just from his observations of you according to others. Or more specifically, others he decided he "liked." This is the way I got on The List®, without having spoken to or about him once. Ever.

This was his specific "flair" at the time, you see.

Now, at that time, BunnySlippers (neé BusyBody) was well into his full-steam racist shitstain mode, yelling the N-bomb eleventeen times a day every day in all of his posts. When I made The List®, I scanned the names and BusyBody was nowhere to be found.

Right then and there I knew this guy was full of shit. I didn't care for his pseudo-Xtian, judgmental, holier-than-thou character from jump street, but you're not gonna put THE most shitty poster on this board on your vaunted list? And then, get this...Oak Tree here said he admired the fucker. Fine. I'm gonna fuck with your schmuck ass until the end of time.

Welp, you can do the math from there. About a year and a half in, he would drop The List® from his personality flair and adopt a revised sexism-forward one where he'd go after and harangue the female members that didn't match up to his morals but still found sexually attractive. Thus you became "Boobs" to him and it's where we are now. I guess he likes this flair as he's stuck with it for quite the long while.