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starla{TDM}

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This probably isn’t going to help get me into the “cliché” group upon this list. Not that I even care. More then likely, based on what I have seen here, it will probably get me bashed. But in all honesty needs to be said.

I am a newbie to this site, I made my first post, and a few replies were condescending to say the least. Fortunately it takes more then a couple of arrogant pompous ass post to bait me into a battle of words and wits. This list has a “you’re a fake, and a HNG” attitude until proven otherwise. IN the week that I have been on this list, I have read

1) Grammar police – Lets poke fun, at the expense of others. Your choice, your right, I am a newbie what do I know? I know this. I have an illness, one that makes my hands shake and my typos suck, along with this my illness has an effect on my cognitive abilities. Yes, I no the right spelling is “know” and I know the difference between lose and loose, but getting my hand and mind and thoughts all together is sometimes impossible, so if your so called “grammar” police ever poked fun at me, I would politely tell them to shove a broomstick up their asses side ways..and fuck off.
2) Not One but two threads concerning the “validity” of an individual poster (this is how –I- felt after my first post, not very welcomed, as stated, fortunately I have the knowledge to deflect hidden innuendos). Hey just because –YOU- may not think they are real does not mean they aren’t. And until proven otherwise, they have rights to fair treatment also. Instead I have seen and these are direct quotes “Babe you are just a posing whinger, and not a very good one at that.....if I were your Master (you do have one right?)” and “as for the pics all being you...sheesh I have known people who could change their appearance, but so much and size as well?!! And if you have only been at this whole thing for 2 weeks, how would your readers have enough to go on to know you are not fake?....” and here read on “Just an indication of motive that would allow myself and others here to elevate our level of comfort with your posts” Level of comfort?? Come on we are not giving our names, (unless your me and don’t give a flying fuck) address, phone numbers, professions, social security card, credit card, shoe size or cock size (well maybe on the last one ) on this forum so what level of comfort and really, why does it matter? If you –think- they are not for real, then so be it, they do not play a role in YOUR life. If they are HNG’s then they will eventually tire and go away and if they are not HNG’s then you have just chased away a potential companion, friend, teacher, ect with your words.
3) A complete post about “poor” collar me profiles, you know you may think they are in poor taste, I may think they are in poor taste, but in no way does it give you me or anyone the “right” to poke fun at their expense. They may only want –sex-, they may really believe they are sadistic, slaves, subs ect. Think about it, how many of you fantasized about have your pussy sewed shut only to find out in real life that its not all fun and games (grins I know this for Master in His sadistic ways has done this to me), maybe these people, really believe they are all they write about in their profiles and more. And maybe, like you, once they get a taste of the lifestyle, then their opinion and views change. And you know, looking at *my* life I would probably be on your list, lets see my profile would be, slave, loves needles (the kind Master uses not the kind I inject myself with everyday), loves to have her pussy sewn shut, loves to have her Master piss in her ass, toliet, toy, cunt, pet, princess, all rolled into one" Ya I would probably fit some of your *weird* profiles.

I think many of you have been here too long, and your too comfortable, and you of course all have your posse’s to back you up. But you need to look within yourself and realize that you are doing nothing to encourage the growth of this site, all your doing is hindering it. Many have become cynical and on this site I am not sure why. Each and every one of you is hidden behind nicknames and a computer screen; you’re not forced to post anything about your real life unless you choose to do so. I can easily set up an account under Susy Q and be just as fake or just as real as each and every one of you that sit here and judge others.

Ok so that is my first impression of this site. Ya I know, I am a newbie I know nothing, I haven’t been here long enough, hey how about “you have no clue” one thing I do know..regardless of grammar, profiles, HNG’s, real , fake, dom , sub TPE, APE ect ect..we are all human behind the screen, and maybe a few of the poster here need to remember that before they post.



starla{TDM}
forever His
 
While I'm still a relative newbie poster here, I've been dealing with this crap on online forums for the past 4 years. Don't take anything anyone says online personally and you'll find yourself a lot better off.
 
First off. I think you've got it all wrong. I have been a newbie not too recently and I've found the BDSM boards to be of the friendliest, most laid back group of people I've met (this may be a skewed opinion, I've only seen the BDSM boards, the GB, and I"ve popped over a few times to the GLBT boards, so I can't speek on many of the boards here on Lit) . Have you browsed the General Boards recently? They don't hardly accept themselves there (I know some people here also frequent the GB, and may really like it there. I've found it to be a little harsh for my tastes, but each to his own). I have frequent problems with my grammar and spelling, and have never been pounced on by these "grammar nazi's" I hear about. I've been asked for clarification once or so when my typos made no sence, but for the most part people have left it alone.
I know one thing the BDSM boards are NOT tollerant of and that is trolls. We've had some pop up recently (I believe someone said it's because it's the holiday season for school). We DO NOT appreciate or tollerate they're behavior here. The GB feeds off of them, and if you think that is growth then you've got a big misconception of growth. The BDSM talk board is a great place to find asnwers to valid BDSM questions that you may have and to talk about concerns you have about BDSM. The Cafe, is one of the places the kinksters here on lit gather to just talk around. It's almost like our own little General Board, only it's a little slower moving and most people here don't post a thread just because they're fingers are in reach of a keyboard.
We try to be an understanding group here. I haven't had the attention span to read all of the posts and threads on this board, but I don't recall seeing any of the things you are accusing the boards of doing/being. I've had no problems with your posts that I have seen. So let's stop pointing fingers and get to some Kinkster conversations.
 
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Sorry you feel that way as I think you have drawn a conclusion without the facts, and incorrectly. We personally post under our real names, and have even given all our personal contact details to Lit voluntarily long ago, and we also post about just about everything and anything we do (including work/career), and anything we are asked about by those who are genuinely interested to share experiences....and we have also met other posters in person. We are far from anonymous and have welcomed many a newbie.

We are a fairly low key bunch who do not tend to bow in serious reverence to anyone else here, especially newer people who we do not know from Adam. You joined Lit on the 8th of this month (5 days ago?)...have made 8 posts and have already judged us even though I have not seen anyone be unkind to you, in fact most have been polite and friendly toward you? Perhaps your needs were not met in the way you thought they would be. Most here earn trust and respect over time more so than expect it, and even then I don't think anyone gets any special treatment, even some of the more prominant people from the world of BDSM who have visited our board in the past and present.

It is often the case someone gets off on the wrong foot...not always intentionally, but as with all things you need to get to know the board first, get a feel for it and the posters, and let people get to know you through your postings as you get to know them likewise. If anything I would say it is anti-clique simply because we are not into placing anyone above another. I am sure you will find this is so if you take the time to stick around and join in the fun instead of making quick assessments of people you do not know.....as I am sure you know, it is often difficult to accurately assess how things are meant through a computer screen. The choice is yours.

Catalina :rose:
 
A note from my point of view re the grammar police, or Language Nazis. For most of us, the "Language Nazi" thread is a somewhat polite way of correcting errors we see frequently, as well as a way of venting a little frustration over the misuse of language, and a little bit of fun. If you go through the thread from the beginning, I think you'll find that it's a bit tongue-in-cheek overall, though there certainly are some pet peeves there that may sting some people.

Yes, some people here have developed a certain level of cynicism regarding the "validity" of the posts of some newcomers - but that wall of cynicism was built brick by brick over a period of time by exposure to trolls, wannabes, and out-and-out fakes. Some of us may even question the reality of certain posts - usually before we've gotten a chance to "know" the person(a) behind the screen name - but that most often happens when a particular post rings a bell as being very similar, either in tone or in nature, to previously-experienced fakery and bullshit by the aforementioned trolls, wannabes and fakes.

Best thing I can say is this: I've been here on Lit a year tomorrow (happy anniversary, me! ;) ), primarily in the BDSM/Café forums, and there are a lot of great people here - intelligent, thoughtful people, who like to have fun with one another, and with the new people who come in and take the time to get to know them as they get to know the new folks. Stick around a bit; talk with us on the topics in which you're interested, and in which you have either knowledge or questions... I think you'll find that most of us are not as intimidating - or cliquish - as we might seem at first.

Welcome to the forum... watch out for the lions! :devil:
 
I think part of the reason that this forum may seem harsh, is that we are all adults here, and expect adult behaviour, even during the learning/making mistakes process.

I'm definitely not a newbie to the BDSM forum. And I was very vocal about my initial journey into BDSM two or three years ago. A lot of my steps were posted here, and a lot of my fuckups were widely published, because I talked about them.

I have to say that, for the most part, the people on this forum approached me, and my newness to the lifestyle with patience, with respect and courtesy, and with ideas and suggestions. And I'm incredibly grateful.

I've grown up a lot since that point.. and part of growing up, on Lit, means growing a thicker skin.. it means learning to ignore those who would needlessly antagonize you (trolls), and learning to accept criticism from those wiser, and more experienced than you (I still very much struggle with this, but I do try).

Relax. You might have caught us in a bad cycle here (the board cycles). Or, you might be having a bad week, and reading more negativity into our posts than is actually there. Either way, bump around the board, read, learn, ask questions.
 
I agree that there are some people here that do the things you have stated. I personally get really annoyed when people correct simple spelling/grammar mistakes, and I dislike the threads talking about profiles and whatnot, but the thing is, that is not an indication of "the board". The people that do the things you have mentioned are individual people or groups of people. It is extremely unfair to lump a whole board into being cliquish or whatnot based on the actions of a few.

There are many people here I do not like or have little respect for, think are fake, whatever. Some of them are people that most others seem to think are great and obviously admire. Everyone comes across differently to different people. It's unproductive to judge and lecture an entire message board based on a few days worth of observation. You can decide you don't like or respect certain people based on their actions. That makes a lot more sense to me.

I have a handful of people on this board on my ignore list because their posts make my time spent here unenjoyable, thus, I avoid them. It's very simple, and you are responsible for how good of a time you have here, no one else. It took me awhile to realize this and start posting more and participating more, and now I feel a lot more comfortable around here because I'M taking responsibility for how welcome I feel, rather than blaming everyone else (even if I do feel like it is their faults, haha!).
 
I consider myself a recent addition to the forums, but I don't beleive I have ever had one bad experience with any of the regular posters.

Remember kiddies, people can diagree with you and question your motives whilst NOT making a personal attack on you. Just because you come across a well-though out counter argument, don't assume the other person doesn't like you.
 
starla{TDM} said:
This probably isn’t going to help get me into the “cliché” group upon this list. Not that I even care. More then likely, based on what I have seen here, it will probably get me bashed. But in all honesty needs to be said.

I am a newbie to this site, I made my first post, and a few replies were condescending to say the least. Fortunately it takes more then a couple of arrogant pompous ass post to bait me into a battle of words and wits. This list has a “you’re a fake, and a HNG” attitude until proven otherwise. IN the week that I have been on this list, I have read

1) Grammar police – Lets poke fun, at the expense of others. Your choice, your right, I am a newbie what do I know? I know this. I have an illness, one that makes my hands shake and my typos suck, along with this my illness has an effect on my cognitive abilities. Yes, I no the right spelling is “know” and I know the difference between lose and loose, but getting my hand and mind and thoughts all together is sometimes impossible, so if your so called “grammar” police ever poked fun at me, I would politely tell them to shove a broomstick up their asses side ways..and fuck off.
2) Not One but two threads concerning the “validity” of an individual poster (this is how –I- felt after my first post, not very welcomed, as stated, fortunately I have the knowledge to deflect hidden innuendos). Hey just because –YOU- may not think they are real does not mean they aren’t. And until proven otherwise, they have rights to fair treatment also. Instead I have seen and these are direct quotes “Babe you are just a posing whinger, and not a very good one at that.....if I were your Master (you do have one right?)” and “as for the pics all being you...sheesh I have known people who could change their appearance, but so much and size as well?!! And if you have only been at this whole thing for 2 weeks, how would your readers have enough to go on to know you are not fake?....” and here read on “Just an indication of motive that would allow myself and others here to elevate our level of comfort with your posts” Level of comfort?? Come on we are not giving our names, (unless your me and don’t give a flying fuck) address, phone numbers, professions, social security card, credit card, shoe size or cock size (well maybe on the last one ) on this forum so what level of comfort and really, why does it matter? If you –think- they are not for real, then so be it, they do not play a role in YOUR life. If they are HNG’s then they will eventually tire and go away and if they are not HNG’s then you have just chased away a potential companion, friend, teacher, ect with your words.
3) A complete post about “poor” collar me profiles, you know you may think they are in poor taste, I may think they are in poor taste, but in no way does it give you me or anyone the “right” to poke fun at their expense. They may only want –sex-, they may really believe they are sadistic, slaves, subs ect. Think about it, how many of you fantasized about have your pussy sewed shut only to find out in real life that its not all fun and games (grins I know this for Master in His sadistic ways has done this to me), maybe these people, really believe they are all they write about in their profiles and more. And maybe, like you, once they get a taste of the lifestyle, then their opinion and views change. And you know, looking at *my* life I would probably be on your list, lets see my profile would be, slave, loves needles (the kind Master uses not the kind I inject myself with everyday), loves to have her pussy sewn shut, loves to have her Master piss in her ass, toliet, toy, cunt, pet, princess, all rolled into one" Ya I would probably fit some of your *weird* profiles.

I think many of you have been here too long, and your too comfortable, and you of course all have your posse’s to back you up. But you need to look within yourself and realize that you are doing nothing to encourage the growth of this site, all your doing is hindering it. Many have become cynical and on this site I am not sure why. Each and every one of you is hidden behind nicknames and a computer screen; you’re not forced to post anything about your real life unless you choose to do so. I can easily set up an account under Susy Q and be just as fake or just as real as each and every one of you that sit here and judge others.

Ok so that is my first impression of this site. Ya I know, I am a newbie I know nothing, I haven’t been here long enough, hey how about “you have no clue” one thing I do know..regardless of grammar, profiles, HNG’s, real , fake, dom , sub TPE, APE ect ect..we are all human behind the screen, and maybe a few of the poster here need to remember that before they post.



starla{TDM}
forever His


....it's the internet dear.
 
starla{TDM} said:
I can easily set up an account under Susy Q and be just as fake or just as real as each and every one of you that sit here and judge others.
starla{TDM}
forever His

Yes, you could do that BUT i know you are real...muhahahahahaha...and i know where you live too *giggle*

kisses and hugs
 
Excuse me Sir..

Slight hijack....

Sir_Winston54 said:

Best thing I can say is this: I've been here on Lit a year tomorrow (happy anniversary, me! ;) )

<wrapping myself completely in pink plastic wrap, placing bow stratigically>

Happy Anniversary Sir...i have a present for you...;)
 
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*pulls the soapbox over to the light*

starla{TDM} said:
This probably isn’t going to help get me into the “cliché” group upon this list. Not that I even care. More then likely, based on what I have seen here, it will probably get me bashed. But in all honesty needs to be said.

I am a newbie to this site, I made my first post, and a few replies were condescending to say the least....


Starla, On any PUBLIC Board such as USENET, LIT, Collar me, etc. ad infinitem... there will always be people who like nothing better than to start trouble. There are also people who are attempting to joke with you, but because one cannot see facial expressions sometimes this gets lost in the translation to the online world.

1) Grammar police – <snip>

2) Not One but two threads concerning the “validity” of an individual poster<snip>
3) A complete post about “poor” collar me profiles, <snip>

Again, you will find similar attitudes on ANY Public Board you go to - the subjects may change but the chance of getting hit coming through the door is always there.

I think many of you have been here too long, and your too comfortable, and you of course all have your posse’s to back you up.

I've been here less than two months. *mock surprise* Hey wait, I have a posse? <scratches head> (Please don't think I am poking fun at you, I am poking fun at myself, if you want to join me in the joke, you are more than welcome)

But you need to look within yourself and realize that you are doing nothing to encourage the growth of this site, all your doing is hindering it. Many have become cynical and on this site I am not sure why. Each and every one of you is hidden behind nicknames and a computer screen...

The same could be said of you and your nickname as well. But I digress... If you read the history/"about this site" that the owners have listed... They are for the freedom of expression. Please realize that sometimes you may not agree with my choice of expression and I may not agree with yours, and we may both disagree with the trolls expression of freedom :eyeroll: These are the risks you accept in exchange for your right to express yourself.

You may not have noticed it yet, but you can look at any member's profile and put them on ignore.

This information is not going into your e-mail box.

You chose to come here freely.

You chose which threads you read freely. I certainly don't read the ones that are obvious bash on others threads - you can usually tell by the topic title which those are.

As a public place, and full of all types, sorts, beliefs and mental faculties, you must accept the fact that not everyone is going to welcome you with flowers and candy. Sometimes individuals have a bad day and it shows in their replys - but you can't tell that until you have read enough of their posts to understand what they normally sound like. Some people have a dry sense of wit, that too you may not recognize until you see how others respond to that person.

And maybe, if you disagree with something someone said, you can start a dialog on what their true intent was. Back up, that sounded really lame. Let me rephrase that. If you find that something I have said struck a hurt place on you, you are welcome to ask me to rephrase what I said, or clarify it. I'm a very blunt and tactless person, but it doesn't mean that I went out of my way to find your sensetive places. Give me the opportunity to clarify what I meant and maybe you will realize I'm not the mean weenie whacker you thought I was.

And from what I've seen, Lit is neither better or worse when it comes to trolls, flame baiting, and general all around odd sods. It also has lots of people who have stories and knowledge to share.

^shrug^ But if you want to characterize the whole board based on your interpretation of what you have seen in a few days... I'll get out of your way and let you.
 
Thank you so much for painting us all with the same brush. I'm so glad to know that you're letting the trolls make up your mind for you. Thanks for showing your true colours now, and saving time.

Since you've already decided none of us are worthwhile and all that, let me turn Language Nazi for a moment.

cli·ché also cliche

1. n A trite or overused expression or idea: “Even while the phrase was degenerating to cliché in ordinary public use... scholars were giving it increasing attention” (Anthony Brandt).

2. n A person or character whose behavior is predictable or superficial: “There is a young explorer... who turns out not to be quite the cliché expected” (John


clique

1. n A small exclusive group of friends or associates.

2. intr.v. Informal cliqued, clique·ing, cliques
To form, associate in, or act as a clique.

Many thanks to dictionary.com for definitions.

You might say, the whole bdsm clique thing has become so cliché.
 
Two things:

1) Always remember: It's the internet. The internet doesn't really matter.

2) People will be people. Don't take things seriously. People bitch in real life, they just usually do it behind closed doors. Take everything in stride, don't let anything really bother you. The signal:noise ratio here is exceptionally good considering it's a sex forum.
 
jasonlf said:
Two things:

1) Always remember: It's the internet. The internet doesn't really matter.

2) People will be people. Don't take things seriously. People bitch in real life, they just usually do it behind closed doors. Take everything in stride, don't let anything really bother you. The signal:noise ratio here is exceptionally good considering it's a sex forum.


What he said. *nods*
 
I have never said anything unkind to you. I rarely say anything unkind at all. I have never attacked you or your posts. And I don't attack other people's collarme accounts, unless I think that the person put it there as a joke.

If you have a problem with me or anyone else here, remember that YOU'RE the one with the problem, not us. So maybe YOU should look inside yourself, and stop worrying about the rest of us. If you don't like it here, leave.

And, Killi, I don't care what kind of snout it is, I'M NOT EATING IT.
 
Starla,
I have to agree to what everybody here said. Those couple of days you have been around are not enough to judge the whole board. Some of your posts may have sounded odd to some (I don't really recall what you said and who answered what), everybody may just have had some big misunderstanding, a bad day, whatever.
What happened between Catalina and slavewife I don't really understand. But there are every now and then some misunderstandings that develope into somewhat of a 'fight' or something. If you happen to enter the board on such a time, yes, you do get a bad first impression.
I know that when I joined a couple of months ago, I was welcomed very friendly. I posted some stupid things before taking the time to read more than write. I don't really know if anyone ever made fun of my language/grammar, certainly not in the threads I posted. If people meet in other threads to talk about other people, be it grammar nazi, collarme profiles, whatever, it might not be very polite, very good, but it is human. People will always talk about others, their dress, house, car, talking, looking in real life, what they say about themselves online.
And then, I have to say, it's incredibly easy to avoid places you don't like online. In RL you have to interact with collegues (sp?), neighbors, family... Online, if you don't like a place or people around, you don't have to go there. It's like not going to one sports group where everybody is bitching around, but going to a different. So if you don't like it here, feel free to leave. I do think though, that we all here could learn from and with each other, and I do think that if you take the time to read around and stick around for another week or two, you might find out that your first impression is not how the board usually runs.
 
chris9 said:
Starla,
I have to agree to what everybody here said. Those couple of days you have been around are not enough to judge the whole board. Some of your posts may have sounded odd to some (I don't really recall what you said and who answered what), everybody may just have had some big misunderstanding, a bad day, whatever.
What happened between Catalina and slavewife I don't really understand. But there are every now and then some misunderstandings that develope into somewhat of a 'fight' or something. If you happen to enter the board on such a time, yes, you do get a bad first impression.
I know that when I joined a couple of months ago, I was welcomed very friendly. I posted some stupid things before taking the time to read more than write. I don't really know if anyone ever made fun of my language/grammar, certainly not in the threads I posted. If people meet in other threads to talk about other people, be it grammar nazi, collarme profiles, whatever, it might not be very polite, very good, but it is human. People will always talk about others, their dress, house, car, talking, looking in real life, what they say about themselves online.
And then, I have to say, it's incredibly easy to avoid places you don't like online. In RL you have to interact with collegues (sp?), neighbors, family... Online, if you don't like a place or people around, you don't have to go there. It's like not going to one sports group where everybody is bitching around, but going to a different. So if you don't like it here, feel free to leave. I do think though, that we all here could learn from and with each other, and I do think that if you take the time to read around and stick around for another week or two, you might find out that your first impression is not how the board usually runs.

Chris9,

Please forgive me for quoting your post, but yours was the last one on the thread *grin* (and i enjoyed reading your response). i agree that it makes a big difference when a person stumbles across a board, and depending on what is going on at that time it can color one's impression. i have not been on the board long, but at the time i came in there was not a lot of bickering. i admit that if i came in this week my first impression would not be as good as it was when i did join the board. i also think that people will say things online that they may, or may not, say in person because some feel much safer and/or bolder. You stated that we all could learn from, and with, each other and i think that is a key point.

i do think that a person's mood may determine how they post as well. Although my rule of thumb is if i am in a "cynical phase" or i realize i am not in the best of moods then i generally stop, and determine if my posting is spurred on by my mood or not. i realize that everyone does not do this, and such is life.

Everyone has their own point of views, and that is what is good about a message board. i also realize that there are some people that think respect has to be earned. Then there are those, like me, that think common courtesy and common respect should be given to everyone until the individual proves otherwise. Just another way that people are different.

One other thing i keep in mind when i am visiting message boards, and reading responses, is a phrase that my grandmother used to use. When i read responses that i "perceive" to be unkind then i remember that "a hit dog yelps first". *note* i did use the word perceive because perception is really such a large percentage of how each individual views the same thing.

i hope everyone has a great day and i am glad the weekend is almost here. It has been a long and wet week in Georgia.
 
Masters_aphrodite said:
Chris9,
Please forgive me for quoting your post, but yours was the last one on the thread *grin* (and i enjoyed reading your response).
No problem! I don't mind being quoted, especially by someone you enjoyed my writings. :) :rose: Good to hear!
 
gee this was fun!!


Ok then I will personalize this more and my sincere apologies to the ones I painted with a broad paint brush. First let me clarify, and I guess this is what it boils down too,
a moderator in a bashing contest with a newbie, stating she is a fake? This same moderator has said this in other post about other people? and its allowed? And the site *allows* some people (note the some so as not to offend the ones that do not play that game) to openly run theads at the expense of others and this is what a newbie sees the first week here? It really does leave a bad taste in a newbies mouth, but I sincerely apologize for the generalization.


tealsphynx - thanks for a good read I can supply you the links to all those threads if you desire.

catalina_francisco - smiles

Sir_Winston54 - Thank you for clarifying your position, I still beleive it is wrong to make fun of others based on their grammar. BTW have you ever been to a toronto canada or florida gathering you look quite familiar?

Ms_Lilith - thank you I am starting to understand that "bad board cycle" is ok, myself when I am having a bad day or Pms or whatever I stay away!!

serijules - I am glad to see I am not the only one that gets annoyed with the "grammar police" I greatly errored in my post tho by painting a board brush, which I will never do again.

O'Mac - Hi O'Mac love the name..:) People have not disagreed with me either until this post, which was expected, I just do not understand how those threads I previously mentioned could even be allowed to stay..aww the optimistic in me!


canadiancutei....*dear* if its the internet then pray tell why should it matter if a person is fake? or a HNG? If they are good profiles or bad? *dear*

nusubgurl -Ohh I missed the anniversary thing grins i need to know where to get some of that pink plastic wrap! (btw Happy Anniversay Sir Winston)

Private Label - stated in my opening, yup it was wrong to categorize the whole board, but I did point out four specific instances, aww well, thank you for your words none the less.

snowy ciara - petty, next thing you know you will be pulling my wheelchair out from under me hahaha and as for the trolls, please tell me, who is god and decides who is and who isnt a troll? And as stated numerous times on this thread, why does it matter *it* *is* *just* the internet. Oh and I do not think anywhere did I state that anyone was worthless.


Xelebes - laughs thanks for the comedy break

jasonlf and Killishandra - yes I agree, so honestly why does it matter if someone is a HNG or a fake or a male saying he is a female? It *is* just the internet. Like a double edged sword. Killishandra on a side note your name sticks out to me, I have read some of your post, many of which I have greatly enjoyed!

graceanne - Your right you have never attacked me, smiles, i am sure many other people have left here, however, I think I will stick around for awhile. I wonder tho, those people you attacked on collarme, that you think is a joke, I wonder how they feel?

chris9 - a breath of fresh air! it is possible I could have come to the board at a bad time, but being that one person involved in a dispute was a moderator doesn't make it any better. I guess moderators should be held to a higher standard then others, and should not resort to name calling ect In my opinion. As for the other threads, once again yes we have the right to freedom of speech, but damn I see the world with rose colored glasses and honestly believe, threads dedicated to making fun of others is completely inappropriate. Once again in my own opinion.

And yes I will not read nor participate in threads of that nature.

aphrodite - my favorite!! so you know where I live eh??? I am like you , I also do not post if I am having any form of cynical day, usually brought on by PMS. I am a firm beleiver that name calling and making fun of people at anothers expense shows your true personality, and that is not me, normally, but add in nasty PMS and I can be a bear. So I avoid it all!!!

Well folks, this has been interesting to say the least, from what I have gathered, most are upset that I painted with such a broad brush, and I did apologize for this. But only a couple seemed annoyed by the grammar police and the "make fun at others expense" threads, and the your a fake threads.
Aww tis life

now you all have a good day..:)

starla{TDM}
Forever His
 
starla{TDM} said:
O'Mac - Hi O'Mac love the name..:) People have not disagreed with me either until this post, which was expected, I just do not understand how those threads I previously mentioned could even be allowed to stay..aww the optimistic in me!

now you all have a good day..:)

starla{TDM}
Forever His


This site, in my experience, tends to err on the side of less moderated, more say whatever you want than on the side of let's be polite and kind to each other.

The downside is that it can be annoying to visit at times, and you will not always feel better for having done that.

The upside is that you can certainly go into those threads and tell people they are being schmucks if that's what you believe. The upside is that we have genuine dialogue and debate and disagreement without everyone turning it into a personal flamewar, usually. People often disagree with me, and I often disagree with them, publicly, while still considering them friends of mine or interesting posters or neat people, or what have you.

I'm not offended by your broad-brush assertion, personally. I'm not always nice or thoughtful and don't mind being called out on it. Inasmuch as I'm not always thoughtful, it's good advice to think more before hitting send, and it does make me think. Inasmuch as I am generally thoughtful, I don't feel the general jist of the post applies to me, personally, and for those who feel the same, it shouldn't bother you so much.
 
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