Newbie with some probably dumb questions

[Tomh1966]

Warning I blather long with questions.
I have been working on stories about the same couple in entirely different stories for years. Its easy to write when the characters are the same people story to story, but change the storyline.

1) Is there any demand for something along the lines of combining romantic, love, monogamy, nudism, and posing nude? I have been writing for myself for quite a while but differ from many stories here in that:
A) The main characters are in love and are monogamous. B) I develop them quite a bit before anything sexual.
B) They get naked around their friends A LOT (and remain monogamous). I go into side stories as chapters of lots of exhibitionism of their friends (in the larger sense of the word not the medical sense) The main female lead is a rabid nudist who loves posing but differs from the medical definition that half the charge she gets from posing is ego based, (It makes her feel pretty), not sexual and she is not walking around flashing unwilling or unaware people. The other half of the charge she gets is simple love of being naked and feeling comfortable in her own skin.

2) The sticky wicket of underage. They lose their virginity to each other at ~age 17. I get and understand that this is tricky and a trap and cannot be public. Is something along the lines of below acceptable?

Story of how they meet at age 9. Short but shows their connection. Absolutely nothing sexual AT ALL (half a page)
Their development from like to best friends to love as they grow and first kiss shortly before age 15. Nothing actually sexual. More story (Not overly long Several pages)
Then just put in something like literally ---> [edited they lose their virginity together] IE edit that part out. (1 literal line)
Their eighteenth birthday story continues and gets pretty graphic but differences I note from many stories:
A) I don't tend use "Pussy" and "Cock" much and use words like manhood. I try to write between male and female perspectives as the story is mostly about the female lead character. (Many chapters and pages)
B) Generally avoid giving descriptions of large loads of cum going everywhere.
C) They marry very young because of their deep connections.
D) Some parts are distinctly nonsexual (Perhaps 15%). Like describing what mean SOB's their fathers are. (Hedge fund guys. mean ones) I get into a story about how the main male lead outsmarts his awful father for a few million to start his new life with his future wife)
E) I write in a date format because it helps me keep track of the story and I backwrite situations as memories. Example. Their mothers realize the first meeting at age 9 that they simply look like they literally belong together at age 9 and will marry some day. One of the mom's thinks fast and snaps a picture of them together within 5 minutes of their first meeting. I link it to part of a story much later in the story as the main female sees the picture, it melts her heart, and they have lots of sex.
F) She is cute not hot. Dark brown hair, B breasts. athletic, absurdly intelligent and talented. She is not a dumb DD cup blonde. (Her BFF is a smart D cup blonde I do some side stories on)
G) I tend that they say "I love you." a lot. I tend to emphasize it a lot.
H) A lot of the sex is distinctly soft and loving, not acrobatic. Not all though. She has a side to her that shows once in a while...

3) I tend to write in paragraphs as there is lots of dialog and putting each change of character speaking will make the stories absurdly long page wise.

Wow that is a lot of blathering. Thoughts?
Be blunt. Is this even worth trying to get published here? I write because I like it and will continue regardless of what I read here.

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

Q1: How much are you getting paid to write here? Thats right, nothing. So write what you want to write, write what makes you happy. Don't write to meet 'demand'
Q2: No. You could say 'i have been with my bf for years' Put in 9, not gonna fly.
Q3:Lit pages are about 10 MS Word pages. It's fine.

 

[NotWise]

Warning I blather long with questions.
I have been working on stories about the same couple in entirely different stories for years. Its easy to write when the characters are the same people story to story, but change the storyline.

1) Is there any demand for something along the lines of combining romantic, love, monogamy, nudism, and posing nude? I have been writing for myself for quite a while but differ from many stories here in that:
A) The main characters are in love and are monogamous. B) I develop them quite a bit before anything sexual.
B) They get naked around their friends A LOT (and remain monogamous). I go into side stories as chapters of lots of exhibitionism of their friends (in the larger sense of the word not the medical sense) The main female lead is a rabid nudist who loves posing but differs from the medical definition that half the charge she gets from posing is ego based, (It makes her feel pretty), not sexual and she is not walking around flashing unwilling or unaware people. The other half of the charge she gets is simple love of being naked and feeling comfortable in her own skin.

You shouldn't have any trouble getting readers. The Exhibitionists and Voyeurs category sounds appropriate, but there are other choices. Give your stories sentimental (and usually happy) endings and your readers will be even happier.

2) The sticky wicket of underage. They lose their virginity to each other at ~age 17. I get and understand that this is tricky and a trap and cannot be public. Is something along the lines of below acceptable?

Story of how they meet at age 9. Short but shows their connection. Absolutely nothing sexual AT ALL (half a page)
Their development from like to best friends to love as they grow and first kiss shortly before age 15. Nothing actually sexual. More story (Not overly long Several pages)
Then just put in something like literally ---> [edited they lose their virginity together] IE edit that part out. (1 literal line)

Your best bet is to avoid the underage backstory entirely. You can do it, but you have to be very careful. You may end up having to explain yourself to the editor, and that doesn't always work out.

My characters in "My Sister's Wedding" had a backstory that started in their early teens. I made it clear that sex was involved. Otherwise I handled the backstory entirely through very intimate conversations, and I didn't give their ages.

Their eighteenth birthday story continues and gets pretty graphic but differences I note from many stories:
A) I don't tend use "Pussy" and "Cock" much and use words like manhood. I try to write between male and female perspectives as the story is mostly about the female lead character. (Many chapters and pages)
B) Generally avoid giving descriptions of large loads of cum going everywhere.
C) They marry very young because of their deep connections.
D) Some parts are distinctly nonsexual (Perhaps 15%). Like describing what mean SOB's their fathers are. (Hedge fund guys. mean ones) I get into a story about how the main male lead outsmarts his awful father for a few million to start his new life with his future wife)
E) I write in a date format because it helps me keep track of the story and I backwrite situations as memories. Example. Their mothers realize the first meeting at age 9 that they simply look like they literally belong together at age 9 and will marry some day. One of the mom's thinks fast and snaps a picture of them together within 5 minutes of their first meeting. I link it to part of a story much later in the story as the main female sees the picture, it melts her heart, and they have lots of sex.
F) She is cute not hot. Dark brown hair, B breasts. athletic, absurdly intelligent and talented. She is not a dumb DD cup blonde. (Her BFF is a smart D cup blonde I do some side stories on)
G) I tend that they say "I love you." a lot. I tend to emphasize it a lot.
H) A lot of the sex is distinctly soft and loving, not acrobatic. Not all though. She has a side to her that shows once in a while...

You can use any vocabulary you want and write the characters, the story, and the sex any way you want. Compared to my stories, a story that's only 15% non-sexual would be pretty sex-laden.

3) I tend to write in paragraphs as there is lots of dialog and putting each change of character speaking will make the stories absurdly long page wise.

Wow that is a lot of blathering. Thoughts?
Be blunt. Is this even worth trying to get published here? I write because I like it and will continue regardless of what I read here.

This may be a problem. It's good practice to separate dialog when the speaker changes. Otherwise it is relatively difficult for readers to follow. I can't speak for the editor, but she may even send it back if you don't separate the speakers into different paragraphs.

Don't worry about how long it is. That's not a problem for anyone.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Your overall theme sounds ideal for Exhibitionism and Voyeurism. Make yourself a niche writing what you want in that category, get yourself a following there.

You're worrying too much about pleasing all readers. Don't. Write what you want to write and readers will follow. You don't need to follow readers, and only a miniscule portion will tell you what they want to read anyway, so write your stories, not theirs.

Don't even think about the under age back story. Even what you've written in this thread could get the boot if it was in a story, so avoid any problems and write stories about adults. Leave children to be children elsewhere, and make sure they're all far away from any description of sex.

Lit readers like long stories, so don't fuss too much about that.

Nail your grammar and punctuation down early. Separate your paragraphs of dialogue from action, separate each speaker clearly. So what if it becomes longer? The word count doesn't change. Give readers plenty of white space and avoid walls of text.

The only way to learn is to start publishing. Keep your first pieces short and simple so you can sort out your technical glitches and learn your own style, learn the discipline of good editing, learn how to tell your stories. Do your apprenticeship before you tackle more complex themes and ideas. But start writing and don't over-think stuff. Good luck, and enjoy .

 

[Tomh1966]

Many thanks for the input. I went through the story. There are too many tiny things as memories that would not pass such stringent requirements as to not literally hack the story to pieces. My stories tend to tell who my characters actually are and WHY they are that way which often leads back to their childhood. (I care about my main characters. Don't worry, I know they are not real.)


Its quite tame, (like mentions of going skinnydipping as a youth with literally ZERO details other than she did it at her aunt's house during the summers.) especially in light of things like the show Euphoria, but I get it. One outraged person and one hyper conservative official and here comes trouble. I don't imagine this site has the lawyers that HBO has to cover Euphoria.

I don't want to offend. I want to entertain.

Funny thing is I came up (actually literally dreamed) a story that is now sitting as an outline. Going to be a while but the characters are in their 30s. Life is funny. So are dreams. Its kind of the opposite of the cheating stories, lots of exhibitionism but also a story of the long road up from finding your husband cheated on you, divorce, to a good end and a good place with a guy simply incapable of cheating on his girl.

 

[SimonDoom]

3) I tend to write in paragraphs as there is lots of dialog and putting each change of character speaking will make the stories absurdly long page wise.

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Don't do this.

Nobody cares if the stories are "absurdly long page wise." This shouldn't be a consideration of any kind at all.

People do care if you bunch up lots of different lines of dialogue in one paragraph. They don't like it. I don't like it. You can do this a little bit, but in general, and I think especially in writing stories to be published online: When you switch from one character's dialogue to another's, change paragraphs.

It's easier to read. It's clearer. The reader has a better understanding who is speaking. You're not presenting your reader with walls of text.

This is just my opinion, and some may disagree, but if you're a newbie and you're wondering "How should I do things?" one of the best things you can do for yourself is to take a little time -- it doesn't take long -- to master the basic mechanics of dialogue. There are how-to articles at Literotica you can read. There are plenty of authors who are very skilled at this, and you can read their stories and get a good idea how successful authors handle things like this.

I think it makes a difference in terms of how well your story will be received.

 

[AngstIgnored]

More than a few authors here do something else with dialogue that I've never seen anywhere else before, much to be avoided, in my opinion.

They mix the spoken words of one character with the response of another character, in the same paragraph, which is *very* confusing.

Assume Mary and John are having a discussion, just as an example of what I'm talking about....

"But John, I don't want to go to the movies with you." John snorted with derision.

"Well, if you don't, I'm going to take another girl instead." Mary laughed at his boast.

This is perhaps the worst way to handle dialogue. Putting two character's discussion intermixed in such a way the reader has to constantly double-check to figure out which is saying what to each other.

 

[SimonDoom]

More than a few authors here do something else with dialogue that I've never seen anywhere else before, much to be avoided, in my opinion.

They mix the spoken words of one character with the response of another character, in the same paragraph, which is *very* confusing.

Assume Mary and John are having a discussion, just as an example of what I'm talking about....

"But John, I don't want to go to the movies with you." John snorted with derision.

"Well, if you don't, I'm going to take another girl instead." Mary laughed at his boast.

This is perhaps the worst way to handle dialogue. Putting two character's discussion intermixed in such a way the reader has to constantly double-check to figure out which is saying what to each other.

I agree. This is a good example of how not to handle dialogue, because it's confusing. If you have a snippet of narrative following a line of dialogue in the same paragraph, then it should narrate the action of the speaker, not the other person.

The key point of dialogue is that it should always be clear who is speaking and who is responding.

 

[RoperTrace]

More than a few authors here do something else with dialogue that I've never seen anywhere else before, much to be avoided, in my opinion.

They mix the spoken words of one character with the response of another character, in the same paragraph, which is *very* confusing.

Assume Mary and John are having a discussion, just as an example of what I'm talking about....

"But John, I don't want to go to the movies with you." John snorted with derision.

"Well, if you don't, I'm going to take another girl instead." Mary laughed at his boast.

This is perhaps the worst way to handle dialogue. Putting two character's discussion intermixed in such a way the reader has to constantly double-check to figure out which is saying what to each other.

I literally had to read your dialogue a couple times before it hit me. Good one.

To the OP, avoid using ages like 9, or 15, or anything under the required minimum, where anything physical, or sexual might be involved. If that's a problem, there are other sites that may allow it, but that may have changed in the last couple years too.

As someone else said, write for your enjoyment, some readers will like it, others won't. Good luck, your story premise sounds interesting to me.

 

[Tomh1966]

Many thanks to all. I wanted honest answers, not someone feeding my ego. It is all good.

I will probably start with the next story here when I am done with my current one.