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Came across this in today's paper. I'm still undecided on my thoughts. My first impression was "So? As long as the party stays in his house, what difference does it make to the neighbors?". Okay, so traffic could be an issue, but .... but .... surely not that big a deal. Or maybe it is.

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Suburban Sex Parties Draw Complaints
By PAUL J. WEBER
Associated Press Writer


DUNCANVILLE, Texas — The most popular address on Cedar Ridge Drive is Jim Trulock's split-level home, which has a group sex room and attracts as many as 100 people to swinger parties featuring "Naked Twister" nights.

But the festivities could soon be over. In response to neighbors' complaints, the city has outlawed sex clubs in residential areas. Citations have been issued, and search warrants may be next.


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A house where weekend swinger parties are hosted is seen in Duncanville, Texas, Friday, Dec. 7, 2007. For the past decade, the owner of this split-level home in a Dallas suburb, has hosted parties attracting as many as 100 guests. The festivities could soon be over. In response to neighbors' complaints, the city has outlawed sex clubs in residential areas. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
"It's crazy that they want to force their morality down our throats," said Dawn Burton, 45, a regular guest at the parties. "We're all frustrated."

So are those who complain of the noise, traffic and parking problems that occur in their otherwise quiet, upscale neighborhood every Friday and Saturday, when Trulock's home is transformed into "The Cherry Pit."

Duncanville, which proclaims itself "The Perfect Blend of Family, Community and Business," is an unlikely venue for a neighborhood swinger club. The city of 36,000 just southwest of Dallas has about 50 places of worship and not a single registered sexually oriented business.

Duncanville officials insist they are not just another prudish Texas town giving the boot to spouse-swappers. They say it all boils down to a matter of law: Trulock is operating a business featuring live sex acts.

"It's not trying to judge anyone or pass judgment on someone's lifestyle," city spokeswoman Tonya Lewis said.

To support its claim, the city notes that the Cherry Pit accepts money from guests and promotes the parties on its Web site.

"We're not about infringing on the rights of the Cherry Pit patrons or owners," Lewis said. "But now your right to have fun has infringed on everyone else's. And now you have to draw the line."

Other cities have wrestled with the same issue.

Phoenix, for example, prohibited live sexual performances in 1998, effectively outlawing swinger parties. An appeals court upheld the law in 2003, and Duncanville used it as a blueprint when passing a ban last month.

Retiree Jack Martin, who lives a block behind Trulock's home, said he's concerned that the parties will reduce the value of his property.

Others are annoyed by the procession of cars that crowd their street on weekend evenings, or the flood of strangers who descend on the neighborhood.

"If you're going to do that, you should open a business," Martin said. "Go somewhere where it's allowed."

Attorneys for Trulock, 59, say the Cherry Pit is nothing more than a private residence where a group of friends get together on weekends to socialize in whatever way they prefer.

While guests are encouraged to make "voluntary donations" to cover the cost of food and refreshments, organizers deny that anyone is being charged admission to his parties.

Ed Klein, an attorney for the Cherry Pit, said many guests give no money, but those who do often chip in $10 or $20. Klein said he plans to file a lawsuit next week that will challenge the constitutionality of the ordinance and seek a temporary retraining order against the city.

"I don't think it's persecution so much as an invasion of their privacy," Klein said.

Arthur Leonard, a New York Law School professor who studies sexuality law, said the size of the parties might be a legal obstacle.

"It seems to me when you have that number of people involved, it becomes more like a public event," Leonard said. "It seems unlikely that a court would find privacy protection for an event this large."

The city has already cited Trulock with three violations, which carry a maximum $2,000 fine. Duncanville City Manager Kent Cagle this week pledged to continue enforcing the new law.

The case against the swinger parties "does appeal to a lot of people's sense of morality," said Lewis, the city spokeswoman. "That's been a lot of complaints we've gotten from residents: 'I came to Duncanville to have a family. I didn't come here to live next to a sex club.'"

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Remember this for your next party. :rolleyes: ;) :p
 
Did you ever see fifty cars parked along a suburban street...it's pretty crowded. Plus, I guess the noise was pretty loud as the night wore on.

My thought...what 100 people can do together 50 could do together.

Keep the parties smaller and there should be no problems.
 
As I understand, the problem was the person running the parties was charging admission. That means he was running an unlicensed business.

I would simply have gotten a city license to run Tupperware Parties or something - or should that be "Fuckerware" :D
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
As I understand, the problem was the person running the parties was charging admission. That means he was running an unlicensed business.

I would simply have gotten a city license to run Tupperware Parties or something - or should that be "Fuckerware" :D

Better still, 'Harry Dickdishes'

Why don't the residents just cordon off the road and charge for valet parking?
 
What's the difference between this and a Tupperware party? Really?

Or one of those Home Interiors things. Or even Mary Kay?

Or how about a garage sale that has cars lined up around the block?

If it is really an issue of number of guests causing disruption and not the fact that it is sexual, fine. But I imagine it's the sex.

Of course, now that the issue has been raised, they'll never be able to have a "small" enough gathering that would make the neighbors happy.

Evil sex do-ers beware!

:cool:
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
What's the difference between this and a Tupperware party? Really?
Do Tupperwere parties happen every weekend and go late into the evening? I think they usually happen in the afternoon, don't they? And maybe once a month at best?

Or even Mary Kay?
I seriously doubt that Mary Kay things involve 100 ladies. A woman selling Mary Kay should be so lucky to have that. Nor does it involve music or dancing and, again, go on late into the night. And, let us point out, something that a lot of neighbors do at one time or another, hold a garage sale out on their lawns.

Or how about a garage sale that has cars lined up around the block?
Annoying and cities have sometimes limited out outlawed them. Once again, however, they're usually on Saturday mornings and afternoons, not late into the night.

Which, obviously, doesn't rule out the sex as an issue. People said as much in the article. If the courts sided with guy throwing the parties (which I doubt they will if he's taking money and running it like a business) then the residents will just limit parking and make it hard for him to have big parties.
 
3113 said:
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Which, obviously, doesn't rule out the sex as an issue. People said as much in the article. If the courts sided with guy throwing the parties (which I doubt they will if he's taking money and running it like a business) then the residents will just limit parking and make it hard for him to have big parties.

And that's what the residents should do.

If their complaint is with the parking, they should attack it from that angle.

The purpose for the gathering is really no one else's business, right?
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
And that's what the residents should do.

If their complaint is with the parking, they should attack it from that angle.

The purpose for the gathering is really no one else's business, right?
I think that's what they are complaining about-- noise nuisance and parking. I sure as hell would! Especially if I wasn't invited... :devil:
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
What's the difference between this and a Tupperware party? Really?

Or one of those Home Interiors things. Or even Mary Kay?

Or how about a garage sale that has cars lined up around the block?

If it is really an issue of number of guests causing disruption and not the fact that it is sexual, fine. But I imagine it's the sex.

Of course, now that the issue has been raised, they'll never be able to have a "small" enough gathering that would make the neighbors happy.

I think part of it is the fact that these parties are for sex, but I also would imagine that the noise is a problem, and it would be a problem for me too. To me, loud parties are extremely inconsiderate. It doesn't matter if you own or rent the place you live in, there are others in the neighborhood who have other concerns (sleep, illness, work, what-have-you) and it's your responsibility to keep your volume down so you don't bother them. Particularly if you're going to be having parties every weekend.

Or, if you're friendly with all your neighbors, invite them to the party too. :D

I do think the town and the neighborhood are singling out sex parties because of the sex too though. I've heard too many people say, "No, it's not that," in an attempt to look tolerant, and then turn around and whisper the opposite. If the guy is charging admission to the parties then yes, he should be fined, but his lawyers insist he's not, and if that's true, then let him be and cite him for noise problems. Maybe strengthen the town's noise ordinance so that it's no longer worth it for people anywhere to disturb their neighbors. But don't outlaw the parties altogether.

And as for the neighbors, they could make access to the neighborhood difficult for all the guests if they have that much of a problem. Myself...there are two ways to the houses on my part of the street. I'd post myself at one entrance and my husband at the other and we'd charge everyone parking fees that rival Chicago's. :D
 
maharat48 said:
Come on, 100 folks? My life is boring.

Not as boring as mine. I'm sitting here on a Saturday afternoon doing LAUNDRY. As I said in my most recent MySpace blog, only cool people do laundry on Saturdays. I was trying to convince myself that I'm cool. :p
 
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