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From issue 2620 of New Scientist magazine, 08 September 2007, page 22. Posted without comment


WHAT'S in a kiss? Saliva, and potentially important information about your kissing partner.

So says George Gallup at the State University of New York, Albany, who surveyed 1041 students on their attitudes to kissing (Evolutionary Psychology, vol 5, p 612). Some views verged on the predictable: women, for example, placed more emotional importance on a kiss, valuing kisses during and after sex, and throughout a relationship. The men tended to see kissing as a means to an end - sex - and placed less importance on kissing as a relationship progresses. Just over half the men said they would have sex with someone without kissing, compared to 15 per cent of women. And more men than women said that a good kiss was one with tongue contact, where the partner made moaning noises.

But Gallup says the first kiss a couple share could make or break the relationship. In a separate survey, 59 per cent of men and 66 per cent of women reported on occasion finding themselves attracted to someone, only to lose interest after kissing them for the first time. "The complicated exchange of information that occurs during a kiss may inform evolved, unconscious mechanisms about instances of possible genetic incompatibility," Gallup says.
 
Sub Joe...your thread deserves more attention than received thus far.

Recall a scene in "Back to the Future", where the boy time traveler, kisses his mother as a young girl, and 'something wasn't right', like kissing your sister.

It seems nature provides methods through saliva and body scent that sometimes repel blood relationships from intimate physical contact.

Body chemistry, scent, pheromones, et cetera are or can be, excellent indicators of compatibility on many levels.

I find this is congruent and supportive of theories concerning the rational and logical base of human emotions and morals and ethics.

Thanks for the article...


Amicus...
 
Kissing is great until you kiss someone and it feels like someone is pumping cigarette smoke in your mouth. Yeah, kissing smokers is bad-bad.
 
Reminds me of an old joke:

Q. What's a total gross-out?

A. When you kiss your Grandma goodbye and she slips you the tongue.

Hmmmm...sounds like a story for the Incest/Taboo cat. :D
 
Unless things have changed, kissing is most girls' first sexual expression. It's a shame that all goes down to practically nil after you're married. I'm convinced it's why a lot of women stray, or are tempted to.
 
Kissing is in some ways more intimate than fucking. No wonder it's such a taboo for prostitutes.
 
Sub Joe said:
Kissing is in some ways more intimate than fucking. No wonder it's such a taboo for prostitutes.

I agree.

I dated a guy for a long time, almost married him, who was so-so as far as sex goes, but hot damn, could he kiss! We would make out like teenagers on the couch for an hour, and I really didn't need sex after that.

Most men don't place near enough importance on kissing. If they only realized...
 
cloudy said:
I agree.

I dated a guy for a long time, almost married him, who was so-so as far as sex goes, but hot damn, could he kiss! We would make out like teenagers on the couch for an hour, and I really didn't need sex after that.

Most men don't place near enough importance on kissing. If they only realized...

If I didn't, I do now. ;)
 
cloudy said:
I agree.

I dated a guy for a long time, almost married him, who was so-so as far as sex goes, but hot damn, could he kiss! We would make out like teenagers on the couch for an hour, and I really didn't need sex after that.

Most men don't place near enough importance on kissing. If they only realized...




Yeah, but when you are in the no parking zone at the airport....
 
She spit on me. I knew immediately that she was not the one for me.

There truly was a great deal of "important information" in her saliva. Luckily, I did not have to resort to kissing.
 
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The_Fool said:
There are blurts and then there are blurts and then there are things best not blurted at all.... :rose:

And there are smiles exchanged along with chips and salsa.

And naughty thoughts not shared, just intimated, along with the warm eyes that followed the plunging neckline of a sweater. . .

;)
 
Sub Joe said:
From issue 2620 of New Scientist magazine, 08 September 2007, page 22. Posted without comment


WHAT'S in a kiss? "The complicated exchange of information that occurs during a kiss may inform evolved, unconscious mechanisms about instances of possible genetic incompatibility," Gallup says.



amicus said:
It seems nature provides methods through saliva and body scent that sometimes repel blood relationships from intimate physical contact.

Body chemistry, scent, pheromones, et cetera are or can be, excellent indicators of compatibility on many levels.


Amicus...

I don't think the "the body" knows about and repels blood relationships from having sex. That's cultural.

Pheromones and scent and "chemistry" can be important, but what is arousal but body chemistry changes interpreted? I suspect the first kiss "make or break" factor has to do with timing, technique, willingness, lack of halitosis and other such things.
 
I think it's simple really.

Kissing styles are related to sexual styles. A bad kiss often comes from incompatible styles, so the bad kiss predicts bad sex.
 
JamesSD said:
I think it's simple really.

Kissing styles are related to sexual styles. A bad kiss often comes from incompatible styles, so the bad kiss predicts bad sex.
That hasn't always been my experience.
 
cloudy said:
mine, either. See my post above. :)
In fact, looking back over the guys from the Middle East that I knew in college, well...are you familiar with the expression "all (his) goods are in the shop window"?
 
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