New Horny Dinosaur

[3113]

I love it when God puts the bones of weird new ancient reptiles in strange places for us to find and, thus, test our faith in creationism.

Museum IDs new species of dinosaur

CLEVELAND - A new dinosaur species was a plant-eater with yard-long horns over its eyebrows, suggesting an evolutionary middle step between older dinosaurs with even larger horns and the small-horned creatures that followed, experts said.


The dinosaur's horns, thick as a human arm, are like those of triceratops — which came 10 million years later. However, this animal belonged to a subfamily that usually had bony nubbins a few inches long above their eyes.

Michael Ryan, curator of vertebrate paleontology for the Cleveland Museum of Natural History, published the discovery in this month's Journal of Paleontology. He dug up the fossil six years ago in southern Alberta, Canada, while a graduate student for the University of Calgary.

"Unquestionably, it's an important find," said Peter Dodson, a University of Pennsylvania paleontologist. "It was sort of the grandfather or great-uncle of the really diverse horned dinosaurs that came after it."

Ryan named the new dinosaur Albertaceratops nesmoi, after the region and Cecil Nesmo, a rancher near Manyberries, Alberta, who has helped fossil hunters.

The creature was about 20 feet long and lived 78 million years ago.

The oldest known horned dinosaur in North America is called Zuniceratops. It lived 12 million years before Ryan's find, and also had large horns.

That makes the newly found creature an intermediate between older forms with large horns and later small-horned relatives, said State of Utah paleontologist Jim Kirkland, who with Douglas Wolfe identified Zuniceratops in New Mexico in 1998. He predicted then that something like Ryan's find would turn up.

"Lo and behold, evolutionary theory actually works," he said.

It's got lots of horns!
http://bp2.blogger.com/_m6sVhskT_Fs/RejTx4N1TEI/AAAAAAAAALI/chLRONmefzI/s400/1+Skrepnicksmall.jpg

I think they should have called him Seymour.

 

[Tom Collins]

Why do they always act so surprised when they find an ancestor of a dino that we're familiar with? Were they expecting that it just showed up out of nowhere?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Michael Ryan, curator of vertebrate paleontology for the Cleveland Museum of Natural History, published the discovery in this month's Journal of Paleontology. He dug up the fossil six years ago in southern Alberta, Canada...

This is what's wrong with both Archeology and Paleontology. Why did it take six years to discover this was an "important find?" The "Society of Intelectual Jealousy" that pervades both divisions of Antrolpology is so rampent that it stands firmly in the way of progress. Louis Leakey died in 1972. His son published the last of his father's findings one year ago. It leads me to wonder how many other findings of both dino and humanoid ancestors are known by the few, but not disseminated for public and peer scruteny

 

[cumallday]

With all those horns you just know the Flintstones would have used it as a sex toy. After use the dinosaur would break the fourth wall and say, "And you thought you had a dirty job!"

 

[3113]

Louis Leakey died in 1972. His son published the last of his father's findings one year ago. It leads me to wonder how many other findings of both dino and humanoid ancestors are known by the few, but not disseminated for public and peer scruteny

Well, but we do have to be careful, Jenny. You don't want to announce a find right away to the newspapers and Time Magazine only to have to say, a week later, that "Oops, it was a hoax..." or "Ooops, we were wrong. It wasn't a dinosaur just a mutated rhino."

Given the Piltdown Man hoax of 1912, one can't really fault archologists for being slow and cautious.

 

[S-Des]

Well, but we do have to be careful, Jenny. You don't want to announce a find right away to the newspapers and Time Magazine only to have to say, a week later, that "Oops, it was a hoax..." or "Ooops, we were wrong. It wasn't a dinosaur just a mutated rhino."

Given the Piltdown Man hoax of 1912, one can't really fault archologists for being slow and cautious.

Besides, any group that counts time in eons can't be expected to operate on our, ADD addled, timeframe. Funny, this guy looks like the one from the cartoon Dinosaur. I wonder if it was based off of this or if it's another one that looks similar.

 

[impressive]

Why do they always act so surprised when they find an ancestor of a dino that we're familiar with? Were they expecting that it just showed up out of nowhere?

Of course. Just like we humans did. *poof* Adam. *poof* Eve.

 

[S-Des]

Of course. Just like we humans did. *poof* Adam. *poof* Eve.

Then *poof* Seymour.

 

[3113]

Funny, this guy looks like the one from the cartoon Dinosaur. I wonder if it was based off of this or if it's another one that looks similar.

You mean someone was watching the Herculoids?

http://www.johnrozum.com/images/tundro.jpg

 

[Tom Collins]

Of course. Just like we humans did. *poof* Adam. *poof* Eve.

Further proof that the Biblical explination of our existance is rediculus. If Adam's poofing about in the Garden of Eden then where in Hell did Cain and Abel come from? *snicker*

 

[Tom Collins]

You mean someone was watching the Herculoids?

http://www.johnrozum.com/images/tundro.jpg

So...is that pic a representation of what the offspring of a rhino and a caterpillar would look like?

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Well, but we do have to be careful, Jenny. You don't want to announce a find right away to the newspapers and Time Magazine only to have to say, a week later, that "Oops, it was a hoax..." or "Ooops, we were wrong. It wasn't a dinosaur just a mutated rhino."

Given the Piltdown Man hoax of 1912, one can't really fault archologists for being slow and cautious.

The problem is deeper than that, 3...

If you dig up a skelaton, you can test the bone to determine the age. But this beast is 70+ million years old. All the bone is long gone and replaces with rock. The only way to age the remains is by "stratographic methods," that is, the rock around the reains is X million years old, so the remains are the same. That doesn't always work that well. Suppose the animal fell in a hole, died and over the millenia the hole was filled in. The layer the animal remains is found in is 70 million years old, but the animal died 50 million years ago.

So what do the paleontologists do? The hide their finds until they can get one of their friends to "confirm" the age they have assigned to it.

Piltdown man was another issue entirely. That was a human skull matched with a money jaw and skull cap, as I recall, or some such combination. The fact is, Piltdown man was supposed to be 40,000 years old, but the bone was pristine. The experts who authenticated it were fools. There were some 250 highly lauded papers done by the finest minds of the time. Not one of them noticed that (a) the bones didn't really fit together and (b) the bones should have been far more deteriorated than they were (c) the bones were found in the wrong region and in the wrong strata.

 

[3113]

So...is that pic a representation of what the offspring of a rhino and a caterpillar would look like?

What you're looking at is a ten-legged rhino-triceratops who shoots explosive energy rocks from his cannon horn in order to protect the futuistic/primitive land of Amzot on the planet Quasar.

Anyone with access to the Cartoon Network would know that!

For more, check out here: The Herculoids

 

[rgraham666]

You mean someone was watching the Herculoids?

http://www.johnrozum.com/images/tundro.jpg

I loved the Herculoids when I was a kid. Especially liked those amoeba thingys.

 

[3113]

I loved the Herculoids when I was a kid. Especially liked those amoeba thingys.

Here's the whole menagerie:

http://www.electricferret.com/battle/cbub_cats/cat3/jul11-18655982006.jpg​

 

[Tom Collins]

What you're looking at is a ten-legged rhino-triceratops who shoots explosive energy rocks from his cannon horn in order to protect the futuistic/primitive land of Amzot on the planet Quasar.

You think the guy who created that creature is compensating for something, eh? *snicker*

Anyone with access to the Cartoon Network would know that!

For more, check out here: The Herculoids

I don't watch much tv.

 

[3113]

You think the guy who created that creature is compensating for something, eh? *snicker*

That was just one of five animals (see post to Rob above). The rock monkey threw bolders, the dragon emitted lazer beams from eyes and tail, and the protoplastic creatures could change shape, etc.

And all these animals worked for a guy who wore a Miss-America-type crown on his head:

http://webpages.charter.net/superheroes/hzandor81.jpg​

I think the creator of this show was more than just compensating

 

[Tom Collins]

That was just one of five animals (see post to Rob above). The rock monkey threw bolders, the dragon emitted lazer beams from eyes and tail, and the protoplastic creatures could change shape, etc.

And all these animals worked for a guy who wore a Miss-America-type crown on his head:

http://webpages.charter.net/superheroes/hzandor81.jpg​

I think the creator of this show was more than just compensating

Yer right, he wasn't compensating...he was FALAAAAAAMING! PMSL

 

[Tom Collins]

*pokes 3 with a sharpened stick*

Why aren't you writing? *gives her "the LOOK"*

 

[3113]

*pokes 3 with a sharpened stick*

Why aren't you writing? *gives her "the LOOK"*

I'm procrastinating on the sex scene. I was hoping horny dinosaurs would inspire me

 

[Tom Collins]

I'm procrastinating on the sex scene. I was hoping horny dinosaurs would inspire me

Writing the sex is the easy part. Ironically enough, it's everything else that's hard.

 

[rgraham666]

Writing the sex is the easy part. Ironically enough, it's everything else that's hard.

I'm finding it the other way around. I'm finding myself bored with the sex.

I believe it's an unexpected side effect of the chastity vow I took.

Sigh.

 

[Tom Collins]

I'm finding it the other way around. I'm finding myself bored with the sex.

I believe it's an unexpected side effect of the chastity vow I took.

Sigh.

Maybe you should co-author something with someone. They could write the sex and you could write everything else.

 

[rgraham666]

Maybe you should co-author something with someone. They could write the sex and you could write everything else.

Nah. I'll get my groove back.

Anyway I'm the world's worst team player.

 

[Weird Harold]

This is what's wrong with both Archeology and Paleontology. Why did it take six years to discover this was an "important find?"

I can't say you're wrong about archeology, but a mere six years for finding, recovering, cleaning and examination of fossils embedded in tons of stone (that has to be removed with dental picks) is actually a pretty quick "discovery."