new Dreams thread

[butters]

The lucid dreams were totally first person and they were impossible to differentiate from real life, except I don't remember there being sound, smell or touch. Just crystal clear vision. It was like being along for the ride in my own body.

The first of the two dreams involved driving behind a futuristic looking car on a mega highway. At the time of the lucid dream I thought something was weird about the dream, but because I didn't drive at the time, coupled with the size of the highway and the futuristic car, I wrote it off as just an intense dream. Because I wasn't driving at the time, I guesstimated my age at about 16. The "event" or re-enactment of my lucid dream occurred on a trip to California to visit my brother when I was 30, and EVERYTHING was exactly like my dream. The highway, the car, how the car I was following changed lanes right as I was changing lanes, EVERYTHING. What was really crazy, was that even after we exited the highway the car still stayed in front of me on the surface streets all the way until I arrived at my brother's condo. The car belonged to one of my brother's neighbors who he was friends with.

The second "event" was much more mundane but very comical. I was sitting in a conference room getting ready to sign a mortgage when it hit me and the reenactment started. In my lucid dream I was at a conference table with a bunch of strangers and for some reason I looked over my left shoulder and saw a picture of a sailing ship on the wall behind me. In the real life event I got really freaked out but maintained my composure and calmly looked over my left shoulder, and sure enough, there was the exact same picture of the sailing ship. It was so startling that I suddenly let out a little bark of a laugh. Everyone in the room stopped what they were doing and looked at the crazy person, but I just played it off as nothing.

I've always wondered what would have happened if I hadn't looked over my shoulder. In the first event I consciously tried to avoid following the car. Unfortunately, I HAD to get in the correct lane for my exit, and it was like fate or destiny wouldn't allow me NOT to follow the car, because traffic only opened up enough at certain times for both of us to get into our exit lane. In the conference room, I'm guessing I had no choice but to look over my shoulder because in some connected reality, I had already done it.

My scientific explanation is that somehow your DNA provides a connection between your present self and your future self. I've come to this conclusion because I only experienced MY future. Obviously you would have to be alive in the future to complete the connection and have an experience to transmit back to your present self.

I think it may be similar to people who claim to have experienced past lives, or people who have prophesized the future. If they have a past ancestor, or a future relative, their DNA connection may allow them to glimpse bits and pieces of their relatives lives via lucid dreaming. Some people might be naturally more prone to lucid dreaming which could explain their imcreased reporting of these types of events. Nostradamus anyone???

nostradamus aside (since a lot of his prophesies are couched in terms that make them applicable across the ages, depending on any civilisation's wars/climate/geological occurrences), your theory is interesting and may yet be proven by science. if the whole 'we leave electromagnetic/whatever traces of ourselves, our experiences in our wake', then perhaps some people's senses are able to pick up on those at a later date... blood calling to blood but in a different way. who knows?

i've heard this a lot about people dreaming: sight and sound are the foremost senses present. in my own dreams, it used to be all of the senses, all of the time, though pain was something not really felt--it was felt more as a form of pressure. in the older dream threads, some have and do experience the reality of pain, so i'm happy not to have my brain go there.
with people born deaf or blind, i would imagine they experience dreams more through their other senses but maybe someone who knows can tell me.
these past few years, my own dreams are now mostly sight, sound, and touch where they used to be full-on like being awake with full compliment of the senses. nowadays, they're sometimes even like passively watching a not very good movie i was thinking about this the other day and, much as i love food, i don't recall ever eating in a dream. to me, that's kinda weird! I might experience the taste of food/drink if it was a part of the dream scene, but not the actual action of consumption.

does anyone ever have dreams where they try to tell themselves that it's just a dream? it's an uncomfortable situation, you tell yourself you're dreaming but it's so realistic that you can't pull out of it? and if you do manage to do so, you fall right back to sleep in the same dream so that you're not sure which is reality? i fucking hate that! sometimes, if i can manage it, the only thing that pulls me awake is to sit up in bed. and even that doesn't always work, sometimes i have no muscle control in th dream so i can't even sit up.

on occasion, but rarely and not for a long long time. can't remember if it actually worked or not as it's been so long. i was more about 'redoing' a scene if someone mispronounced a word and if the person i was in at the time wasn't in a particular scene, i'd simply slip into one of those who were. the first --well, the english language has always been important to me as a reader/writer; the second might correllate with a lack of control over my own life for an extended period of time with the psycho.

the worst is thinking you've woken up when you haven't!

i have used dreams as the plot elements for stories and i often wake up and think, "that would make a great play/novel/story." i'm totally not musical so i can't notate my dreams-keith richard does, though. he said that's how he discovered the licks for 'honky tonk woman'.

when i'm someone else, it's like being two people. i'm aware of myself and that i'm not that person but i have their feelings and reactions. this is especially upsetting if i dream i'm female because i really like being a man.

i don't think they've change over time. i still have at least one morning a week where i wake up thinking, "what the fuck was that? was that real? who am i?".

it's great your brain is giving you stuff how about using a keyboard and finding the notes, then write down the keys? i dunno, it might be of use if you want to play it again.

the bold: i think that sounds a lot like the way i experience it, though sometimes i'm just sitting in the back of the brain, more of an observer but processing their thoughts/actions/feelings. sometimes my morality is still purely me, but my actions etc... are played out as the character's. i've been a lot of kinds of people. all kinds of ages, genders, cultural identities... guess mostly european, though. it all depends on the dream and the limits of my own imagination/knowledge. hell, i don't stop at being a person, but mammals, birds, a breeze, a river, even a rock. that was the BEST dream...uber-calming. those non-people things? i was me in them, i was them, their awareness personified, i guess.

I lucid dream all the time. Don’t like the the way it’s going I’ll stop the action an go in a different direction.

I’ve also ha vivid dreams that seem to inform. Like once when I was getting a business off the ground I dreamed of being at sea. A storm came, the boat was tossed about and finally sank, but I popped safely to the surface with a raft and the storm cleared and the sea calmed. I interpreted it to mean that there was going to be some tough times but things would work out fine. And they did!

don't you think our brains pick up on a whole lot of stuff subconsciously and it works it all out, sending us messages in our dreams--even if they're couched in cheesy, cliched terms for our poor consciousness to interpret more easily?

depends, is it cash in hand and is there the death penalty ? if yes then i sure do.

consider yourself retained

 

[hobbit.]

consider yourself retained

Can I just check that the spelling is correct and that it does actually say 'retained' This is a great day in the criminal justice system.

 

[butters]

Can I just check that the spelling is correct and that it does actually say 'retained' This is a great day in the criminal justice system.

 

[Lazaran]

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I'm a believer in quantum entanglement in DNA and the resulting portals that could be created between shared DNA across past, present, and future generations during a lucid dreaming event. Although I'm not sure if a lucid dream even fits into the category of standard dreaming event.

While standard dreams seem to be a the product of a scramble of signals from multiple sources, lucid dreams seem to be the product of a focused signal from one specific point source.

Maybe standard dreams act as interference to block signals from the past and future that are attempting to connect to the present via lucid dreams. Imagine if a person could access their past and future selves and relatives at will or if they couldn't stop it from happening. Either scenario could have disastrous results.

Definitely something interesting to think about.