Netanyahu Gives A Lesson...

[eyer]

...let those who have ears, hear.

Netanyahu history lesson seen as message about Iran

(Reuters) - Cautioned by Washington about the risks of a military strike on Iran, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on Sunday about making "the right decision at the right moment," even when allies object.

In a speech at an annual memorial for Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, Netanyahu did not mention Iran and its nuclear programme once.

But in the context of an on-going debate with the United States over how to stop what Netanyahu and U.S. leaders believe is Iran's quest for atomic weapons, his comments on Israeli go-it-alone decision-making in the past could have relevance for the future.

"Great statesmen as well as friends of the Jews and of Zionism" warned Ben-Gurion that declaring a Jewish state in 1948 would bring an invasion of Arab armies and a "grave and difficult battle," Netanyahu said.

"He understood full well the decision carried a heavy price, but he believed not making that decision had a heavier price," Netanyahu said. "We are all here today because Ben-Gurion made the right decision at the right moment."

On Friday, U.S. Defense Secretary Leona Panetta used some of his strongest language yet to explain U.S. concerns about any military attack on Iran, citing Israeli estimates that a strike might set back its nuclear program by only one or two years.

The consequence, Panetta told a pro-Israel forum in Washington, could be "an escalation" that could "consume the Middle East in confrontation and conflict that we would regret."

Netanyahu has called a nuclear-armed Iran an existential threat to Israel, and along with the United States has said that all options are on the table to deal with such a threat. Iran says it is enriching uranium for peaceful purposes.

In his speech, Netanyahu said Ben-Gurion deliberated long and hard before he decided to declare a state.

"Today we are all in agreement it was a considered, correct and responsible decision. I want to believe we will always act with responsibility, courage and determination to make the right decisions to ensure our future and security," Netanyahu said.

Reporting on Netanyahu's speech on its website, Israel's Haaretz newspaper said he had "sent a hint to his critics at home and abroad on the Iranian nuclear issue," and noted its timing, shortly after Panetta's words of caution.

Those critics include Meir Dagan, a former chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency, who since leaving the post in January has been vocal in warning about the dangers of regional conflict and Iranian retaliation if Israel attacked on its own.

Alon Ben-David, military affairs analyst for Israel's Channel 10 television, also alluded to a hidden message about Iran in Netanyahu's remarks. "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" Ben-David tweeted.

Iran has weathered several rounds of sanctions passed by the U.N. Security Council and Western powers. A U.N. watchdog report last month suggested Iran has worked on a nuclear bomb program, heightening international pressure.

On Saturday, Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said Israel and the United States were coordinating closely on Iran.

But, Barak said, Israel has sovereignty and ultimate responsibility for its security.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/04/us-iran-israel-us-idUSTRE7B30ID20111204

 

[Sean]

Hmm, would Israel dare launch a strike on Iran if the US weren't at their back? Thing I learned at school, loud mouthed arseholes are only hard when they have big fuckers backing them up.

 

[ziti_the_noodle]

Fuck......you're boring.

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0908/holy-shit-demotivational-poster-1249305501.jpg

-ziti

 

[Wrong Element]

Seems to me that Netanyahu forgot to mention another nuclear weapons program currently in existence in the Middle East...

 

[Sean]

Seems to me that Netanyahu forgot to mention another nuclear weapons program currently in existence in the Middle East...

Can't mention that, you get kidnapped and locked up in solitary for eighteen years.

 

[eyer]

Relativism...

...the crutch one always finds abetting a weak mind.

 

[Sean]

Relativism...

...the crutch one always finds abetting a weak mind.

Eyerism...
...the inability to understand basic grammar.

 

[eyer]

Eyerism...
...the inability to understand basic grammar.

seanHism...

 

[Karen Kraft]

Israel might be well-advised to wait (if possible) until things are a bit less....

... what's the word? .....

"Islamist"...

... in D.C.

Just sayiin'

 

[Sean]

seanHism...

You know your ISP tracks every thing you do?

 

[phrodeau]

Israel might be well-advised to wait (if possible) until things are a bit less....

... what's the word? .....

"Islamist"...

... in D.C.

Just sayiin'

You think Keith Ellison won't be re-elected?

 

[eyer]

You know your ISP tracks every thing you do?

I'm not a customer of an ISP...

...so that - all by itself - begins blurring whatever point you're subjectively wishing to post.

Perhaps you can attempt to be clearer...

 

[Karen Kraft]

I'm not a customer of an ISP...

...so that - all by itself - begins blurring whatever point you're subjectively wishing to post.

Perhaps you can attempt to be clearer...

Are you kidding?

It's a waste of time.

Iggy's the ticket for him.
It makes life here so much better.

 

[Dazzle1]

One of the first things the new President in 2013 will have to do its apologize to Israel for Barack Obama.

Than put the Turkish PM in his place and make him apologize to Israel and us.

 

[Sean]

I'm not a customer of an ISP...

...so that - all by itself - begins blurring whatever point you're subjectively wishing to post.

Perhaps you can attempt to be clearer...

So how are you posting on the interwebz, eeyore? Telepathy?

 

[eyer]

So how are you posting on the interwebz, eeyore? Telepathy?

Proxy...

...actually.

One, of more than a few...

...in fact.

 

[Sean]

Proxy...

...actually.

One, of more than a few...

...in fact.

Ahh, so where are those proxy servers based, eeyore? And how are you getting on the web to access them?

 

[eyer]

Ahh, so where are those proxy servers based, eeyore? And how are you getting on the web to access them?

"proxy servers"?

he,he,he...

..."proxy" is akin to the word veil in that it serves the same general, concealing purpose, yet comes in many different colors.

"servers" is simply a color...

BTW:

Was there a point to your original query?

 

[Sean]

"proxy servers"?

he,he,he...

..."proxy" is akin to the word veil in that it serves the same general, concealing purpose, yet comes in many different colors.

"servers" is simply a color...

BTW:

Was there a point to your original query?

This may be the weirdest post on Lit ever.

 

[eyer]

This may be the weirdest post on Lit ever.

I'd bet that with almost 65K of yours to choose from...

...you're vastly exaggerating.

 

[Sean]

I'd bet that with almost 65K of yours to choose from...

...you're vastly exaggerating.

You do know what a proxy is, right? You know how the series of tubes works?

 

[eyer]

You do know what a proxy is, right? You know how the series of tubes works?

You understand you can be a proxy...

...right?

 

[Sean]

You understand you can be a proxy...

...right?

Yes, you can. But you need an internet connection to do it. Hence ISP.

 

[Liar]

You understand you can be a proxy...

...right?

Are you saying you're mooching of other people's access? That's sort of a proxy.

 

[eyer]

Yes, you can. But you need an internet connection to do it. Hence ISP.

Ah...

...you're a closed loop kinda guy:

You know your ISP tracks every thing you do?

Shall I begin anew?