Net Zero Collapses

[Rightguide]

‘Net Zero’ Is Collapsing in U.S. States​

13 hours ago

Guest Blogger

41 Comments
From MasterResource
By Steve Goreham

From New York to California, state renewable electrical power dreams are collapsing. Power demands soar, while the federal government cuts funding and support for wind, solar, and grid batteries. Renewables cannot provide enough power to support the artificial intelligence revolution. The Net Zero electricity transition is failing in the United States.

For the last two decades, state governments have embraced policies aimed at replacing coal and natural gas power plants with renewable sources. Twenty-three states enacted laws or executive orders to move to 100% Net Zero electricity by 2050. Onshore and offshore wind, utility-scale and rooftop solar, and grid-scale batteries were heavily promoted by states and most federal administrations.

The New York State Climate Action Scoping Plan of 2022 called for 70% renewable electricity by 2030 and 100% by 2040. But 49.7% of the state’s electricity came from gas in 2024, up from 47.7% in 2023. A January executive order issued by President Trump halted federal leases for construction of offshore wind systems. New York, nine other east coast states, and California were counting on offshore wind in efforts to get to 100% renewable electricity, but new offshore wind projects are now halted.

Wind and solar have benefited from federal tax credits, loans, and outright grants since 1992. But the Trump administration is now working to slash federal government support for these technologies. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBB) passed the House of Representatives on May 22. The bill eliminates Production Tax Credits and Investment Tax Credits for renewable systems that begin construction later than 60 days after passage of the bill or for projects that do not complete construction by year end 2028. The bill also halts the sale of tax credits from renewable projects. If the Senate passes the bill, these measures will choke off green energy projects that have relied on federal funding for decades.

More here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/06/16/net-zero-is-collapsing-in-u-s-states/

 

[ll74]

No it isn't.

 

[Rebel5soul]

No it isn't.

Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and go, "nahnahnahnahnahnahnah."

 

[ll74]

Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and go, "nahnahnahnahnahnahnah."

I don't need to do anything.

Nothing is collapasing

 

[Politruk]

More here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/06/16/net-zero-is-collapsing-in-u-s-states/

A cursory glance at that site's welcome page will suffice to demonstrate why anything you read there should be dismissed with contempt. One of the front-page articles is by Steven Milloy, FFS!

 

[Rebel5soul]

This is the truth, suck it up and live with it.

 

[ll74]

This is the truth, suck it up and live with it.

Making up shit isn't the truth.

Solar panel market is on fire right now.

 

[Bray123]

Duh, the mobster has taken his bribes from the fossil fuel industries and is trying to create a country where those industries will profit at the expense of the opposition.

How much money would the tobacco industry have to pay for him to declare that smoking was healthy and cut all cigarette taxes?

 

[Rightguide]

A cursory glance at that site's welcome page will suffice to demonstrate why anything you read there should be dismissed with contempt. One of the front-page articles is by Steven Milloy, FFS!

He has ten times you IQ and general knowledge.

 

[Politruk]

He has ten times you IQ and general knowledge.

Milloy is a crank pseudoscientist and a dishonest corporate shill.

 

[Rightguide]

Milloy is a crank pseudoscientist and a dishonest corporate shill.

With ten times your IQ and knowledge.

 

[Politruk]

With ten times your IQ and knowledge.

If Trump were a whole lot smarter than the idiot he appears to be, it would still be a mistake to believe anything he says.

 

[Politruk]

Duh, the mobster has taken his bribes from the fossil fuel industries and is trying to create a country where those industries will profit at the expense of the opposition.

How much money would the tobacco industry have to pay for him to declare that smoking was healthy and cut all cigarette taxes?

Less than Musk spent.

 

[ll74]

With ten times your IQ and knowledge.

What is his IQ?

 

[ChinoMoreno]

What is his IQ?

Bro he thinks 10 x 0 is 10.

 

[Boat1]

‘Net Zero’ Is Collapsing in U.S. States​

13 hours ago

Guest Blogger

41 Comments
From MasterResource
By Steve Goreham

From New York to California, state renewable electrical power dreams are collapsing. Power demands soar, while the federal government cuts funding and support for wind, solar, and grid batteries. Renewables cannot provide enough power to support the artificial intelligence revolution. The Net Zero electricity transition is failing in the United States.

For the last two decades, state governments have embraced policies aimed at replacing coal and natural gas power plants with renewable sources. Twenty-three states enacted laws or executive orders to move to 100% Net Zero electricity by 2050. Onshore and offshore wind, utility-scale and rooftop solar, and grid-scale batteries were heavily promoted by states and most federal administrations.

The New York State Climate Action Scoping Plan of 2022 called for 70% renewable electricity by 2030 and 100% by 2040. But 49.7% of the state’s electricity came from gas in 2024, up from 47.7% in 2023. A January executive order issued by President Trump halted federal leases for construction of offshore wind systems. New York, nine other east coast states, and California were counting on offshore wind in efforts to get to 100% renewable electricity, but new offshore wind projects are now halted.

Wind and solar have benefited from federal tax credits, loans, and outright grants since 1992. But the Trump administration is now working to slash federal government support for these technologies. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBB) passed the House of Representatives on May 22. The bill eliminates Production Tax Credits and Investment Tax Credits for renewable systems that begin construction later than 60 days after passage of the bill or for projects that do not complete construction by year end 2028. The bill also halts the sale of tax credits from renewable projects. If the Senate passes the bill, these measures will choke off green energy projects that have relied on federal funding for decades.

More here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/06/16/net-zero-is-collapsing-in-u-s-states/

For those who have good electrical knowledge and basic math skills, Net Zero NEVER even got off the ground.
"Follow the money" as it certainly funneled metric tons of that.
Go to YouTube and watch an electric arc furnace.... tell me how many square miles of solar panels it would take to power just one of those.

 

[dmallord]

Bro he thinks 10 x 0 is 10.

Dude's right, Bro! Take a look at this as proof!

Scene: Two friends at a table. One holds up a $10 bill.

Friend A:
“If I’ve got this $10 bill, and I multiply it by zero, what do I have?”

Friend B (correctly):
“Zero. You have nothing. You multiplied it by zero.”

Friend A (grinning like he's cracked the universe):
“No, man. I still have the $10. I didn’t burn it, I just multiplied it. It’s still right here.”

Friend B:
“But that’s not how multiplication works—”

Friend A:
“Then you tell me where the ten bucks went. It's in my hand. Can’t argue with physics.”

Friend B:
“You’re confusing math with possession.”

Friend A:
“Exactly. That’s why I’m rich in logic.”

 

[ll74]

For those who have good electrical knowledge and basic math skills, Net Zero NEVER even got off the ground.
"Follow the money" as it certainly funneled metric tons of that.
Go to YouTube and watch an electric arc furnace.... tell me how many square miles of solar panels it would take to power just one of those.

The only way to get to bet zero is with nuclear and the Nimbies don't like that

 

[ChloeTzang]

All the wind and solar stuff is uneconomic without major subsidies and trillions in debt as we are, that ain't happening. Add in soaring demand and the need to rebuild the entire grid if we want EV's (which are uneconomic and which are only good in cities) t replace ICE's and yeah, ain't happening.

Getting away from fossil fueled electric powet plants means going nuclear, and that takes years. Nothing is u nderway. Ergo, kiss alternatives to fossil fuels goodbye. Just a green fantasy.

 

[MajorRewrite]

It’s amusing that MAGA sheep have adopted the term “net zero” without understanding what it means.

Mindless sheep.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Looks like Reichguide is doing his best trysail impression.

And no, I ain't reading shit from wattsupwiththat, which is ground zero for climate pseudoscience, misinformation, and shilling for the petroleum industry.

 

[MajorRewrite]

All the wind and solar stuff is uneconomic without major subsidies and trillions in debt as we are, that ain't happening. Add in soaring demand and the need to rebuild the entire grid if we want EV's (which are uneconomic and which are only good in cities) t replace ICE's and yeah, ain't happening.

Getting away from fossil fueled electric powet plants means going nuclear, and that takes years. Nothing is u nderway. Ergo, kiss alternatives to fossil fuels goodbye. Just a green fantasy.

100% bluster, 0% facts.

81% Of Renewables Offer Cheaper Energy Than Fossil Fuels

The world added 473 gigawatts of renewable energy capacity last year, according to a new report from the International Renewable Energy Agency, and four-fifths of it produces power more cheaply than fossil fuels do.

The added capacity, roughly equivalent to 473 nuclear plants, produces electricity at prices most fossil plants can’t match and that the nuclear industry can only dream of: The global average cost of electricity from onshore wind fell to 3.3 cents per kilowatt-hour, 3 percent less than the year before, and utility-scale solar photovoltaic fell to 4.4 cents/kWh, 12% less than the year before.

Fossil-fuel prices rose in 2023 to 10 cents/kWh, according to IRENA’s report, which largely ignores nuclear power (new nuclear has been estimated to cost as much as 25-30 cents/kWh).

Do the naysayers have data to contradict this?

 

[ll74]

All the wind and solar stuff is uneconomic without major subsidies and trillions in debt as we are, that ain't happening. Add in soaring demand and the need to rebuild the entire grid if we want EV's (which are uneconomic and which are only good in cities) t replace ICE's and yeah, ain't happening.

Getting away from fossil fueled electric powet plants means going nuclear, and that takes years. Nothing is u nderway. Ergo, kiss alternatives to fossil fuels goodbye. Just a green fantasy.

No it isn't.

Solar prices have dropped plenty enough to be affordable.

 

[Rebel5soul]

No it isn't.

Solar prices have dropped plenty enough to be affordable.

Solar CAN work in some areas for individual structures. Solar farms are a bust.

 

[eric_erosfan]

All the wind and solar stuff is uneconomic without major subsidies and trillions in debt as we are, that ain't happening. Add in soaring demand and the need to rebuild the entire grid if we want EV's (which are uneconomic and which are only good in cities) t replace ICE's and yeah, ain't happening.

Getting away from fossil fueled electric powet plants means going nuclear, and that takes years. Nothing is u nderway. Ergo, kiss alternatives to fossil fuels goodbye. Just a green fantasy.

Don't be so ignorant. Subsidies are the only thing making fossil fuel affordable. You know how expensive a fuel refinery is?

The technology for solar is still in its infancy and only getting better. Battery storage will eventually be the way people get their home power. No more delivery over thousands of miles of wires.

Don't be a dinosaur. Be a mammal.