NC State Bans Fraternities From Drinking . . . Exempts Black Frats From Ban…

[Busybody]

 

[unregistered]

 

[Busybody]

And this isn’t racist because . . . ?

Via Daily Caller:


North Carolina State University (NCSU) has responded to a series of fraternity scandals on-campus and nationwide by at least temporary banning alcohol at the parties of all ordinary fraternities. However, the ban doesn’t include the handful of historically-black fraternities at the college.

NCSU is the latest in a string of colleges to fall into turmoil over the conduct of fraternity members. At the University of Oklahoma, Sigma Alpha Epsilon was abolished over a racist song sung by freshman members. At the University of Maryland, an offensive email surfaced. At Penn State, members of Kappa Delta Rho are facing possible criminal charges for a Facebook page that allegedly contained nude photos of unconscious women. […]

In response to the growing turmoil, NCSU has announced that it is banning all alcohol at social events for the vast majority of fraternities. A news release by the school attributed the decision to both local scandals as well as “national issues.”

But the ban has one big exception: The school’s historically black fraternities, such as Alpha Phi Alpha, are totally exempt.

 

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[sr71plt]

Although I don't know how it came down this way, it might end up as an inventive and effective "getting their attention on the effect of discrimination with a two-by-far across the forehead" approach to making them think about the issue from the perspective of the victim. The TV coverage of this didn't describe the black organizations as fraternities, so there may be some technical issue of differences of school regulation/control involved.

 

[Busybody]

Although I don't know how it came down this way, it might end up as an inventive and effective "getting their attention on the effect of discrimination with a two-by-far across the forehead" approach to making them think about the issue from the perspective of the victim. The TV coverage of this didn't describe the black organizations as fraternities, so there may be some technical issue of differences of school regulation/control involved.

what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[phrodeau]

And this isn’t racist because . . . ?

Via Daily Caller:


North Carolina State University (NCSU) has responded to a series of fraternity scandals on-campus and nationwide by at least temporary banning alcohol at the parties of all ordinary fraternities. However, the ban doesn’t include the handful of historically-black fraternities at the college.

NCSU is the latest in a string of colleges to fall into turmoil over the conduct of fraternity members. At the University of Oklahoma, Sigma Alpha Epsilon was abolished over a racist song sung by freshman members. At the University of Maryland, an offensive email surfaced. At Penn State, members of Kappa Delta Rho are facing possible criminal charges for a Facebook page that allegedly contained nude photos of unconscious women. […]

In response to the growing turmoil, NCSU has announced that it is banning all alcohol at social events for the vast majority of fraternities. A news release by the school attributed the decision to both local scandals as well as “national issues.”

But the ban has one big exception: The school’s historically black fraternities, such as Alpha Phi Alpha, are totally exempt.

It's racist because it's only part of the story, dumbass.

Only those frats which are part of the Interfraternity Council are affected by the ban. The three other councils and associations are exempt.

 

[Que]

It's racist because it's only part of the story, dumbass.

Only those frats which are part of the Interfraternity Council are affected by the ban. The three other councils and associations are exempt.

...And the "three other councils and associations are exempt, because...?"

 

[phrodeau]

...And the "three other councils and associations are exempt, because...?"

Did you have a thought in there somewhere?

 

[Que]

Did you have a thought in there somewhere?

It is a query. See the question mark at the end?

You evidently thought you made a point, and you left that glaring question.

 

[sr71plt]

...And the "three other councils and associations are exempt, because...?"

Quite possibly because the school doesn't have the same authorities over them that it has over fraternities. Just a guess. Maybe more will be explained in subsequent media coverage.

 

[Que]

Quite possibly because the school doesn't have the same authorities over them that it has over fraternities. Just a guess. Maybe more will be explained in subsequent media coverage.

More like they haven't chosen to assert authority. Universities can and do assert whatever authority they grant themselves over student's lives as a condition of enrollment. Perhaps historically they have not on these other groups (if not why not?), perhaps only in this case (if not why not?). Hence the question.

If it is a question of frats being housed on deeded land owned by the University, that might make some sense. Perhaps these other non-frat groups are autonomous because of past discrimination meant they couldn't have houses on campus or be included in the Greek system.

 

[sr71plt]

More like they haven't chosen to assert authority.

Nope. That's less likely than that they have different extents of authority. It doesn't make sense that a university administration would step into a discriminatory action like this. I think you're just wishful thinking based on your prejudices.

We'll see. I can wait before making anything out of it.

 

[doubleover]

And this isn’t racist because . . . ?

Via Daily Caller:


North Carolina State University (NCSU) has responded to a series of fraternity scandals on-campus and nationwide by at least temporary banning alcohol at the parties of all ordinary fraternities. However, the ban doesn’t include the handful of historically-black fraternities at the college.

NCSU is the latest in a string of colleges to fall into turmoil over the conduct of fraternity members. At the University of Oklahoma, Sigma Alpha Epsilon was abolished over a racist song sung by freshman members. At the University of Maryland, an offensive email surfaced. At Penn State, members of Kappa Delta Rho are facing possible criminal charges for a Facebook page that allegedly contained nude photos of unconscious women. […]

In response to the growing turmoil, NCSU has announced that it is banning all alcohol at social events for the vast majority of fraternities. A news release by the school attributed the decision to both local scandals as well as “national issues.”

But the ban has one big exception: The school’s historically black fraternities, such as Alpha Phi Alpha, are totally exempt.

Maybe the school leaders have stock in Colt 45 malt liquor.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I have to wonder where the college gets off making rules about activities that happen off-campus and have nothing to do with anybody but the participants. I live in a city which has a state U. campus. Can they tell me what I can and can not do while in my own home?

That's a rhetorical question, since I am not a student. However, if I were, would the university have that authority?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I have to wonder where the college gets off making rules about activities that happen off-campus and have nothing to do with anybody but the participants. I live in a city which has a state U. campus. Can they tell me what I can and can not do while in my own home?

That's a rhetorical question, since I am not a student. However, if I were, would the university have that authority?

They don't.

 

[Boxlicker101]

They don't.

I would certainly hope not. But, then, why does NCSU have that authority over students who are adults and live in private residences?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I would certainly hope not. But, then, why does NCSU have that authority over students who are adults and live in private residences?

Again, they don't.

They only have control over groups who wish to be associated with their institution and want the benefits & privileges that come with that association.

If Student A wants to hang out with Student B in a private setting and engage in any legal activity without being associated with the institution, the institution has no say in that.

 

[Que]

Universities can and do publish codes of conduct. This applies to on or off campus behavior. If you enroll you agree to be bound by their rules.

They are less likely to know about proscribed behavior that occurs off campus and they have no powers of search, but if any behavior that violates their code of conduct becomes known they can and do take action.