NATO in Macedonia anyone have any thoughts about it ?
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YoungGun69
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Ive heard alot of it here in Toronto mostly cause my parents are Greek and we have a Greek TV station we get on cable.
It's sad whats going over there. I just wonder some times whats wrong with them. Yesterday I read about some Albanian Rebels who Bombed and blew up a monastery in Macedonia to try and make sure their side gets what they want in negotiations. The Macedonian governmentis giving them alot and they use violence to push for more.
I dont want people to take this the wrong way but those bloody Albanians better smarten up before they fuck themselves up. The government is giving and they dont attacks untill they are pushed but I fear for the day they make the government go on the offensive. They may not stop untill the rebels are wiped out.
It's sad whats going over there. I just wonder some times whats wrong with them. Yesterday I read about some Albanian Rebels who Bombed and blew up a monastery in Macedonia to try and make sure their side gets what they want in negotiations. The Macedonian governmentis giving them alot and they use violence to push for more.
I dont want people to take this the wrong way but those bloody Albanians better smarten up before they fuck themselves up. The government is giving and they dont attacks untill they are pushed but I fear for the day they make the government go on the offensive. They may not stop untill the rebels are wiped out.
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From what I understand of the agreement the UN forces are there to supervise the disarming of the rebels and keep the peace.
Any time you can stop the fighting and keep'em talking is good. Talk can be rancorous and at times seem unproductive but I've never seen anyone bleed from it.
Any time you can stop the fighting and keep'em talking is good. Talk can be rancorous and at times seem unproductive but I've never seen anyone bleed from it.
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Thumper said:
i agree but the problem seems to be that the Albanian rebels dont want to talk. They want to fight while they Government says lets talk.
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albanians in the balkans ?
i thought they were ALL begging on the streets of london, gangs of women wearing curtains round their heads with a rented drugged baby seemingly welded to their hips and a dirty hand pushed forcefully into your face while the men pick pockets .
there is a war going on and it is not all in the balkans
however flippant this statement may seem it is the truth
i thought they were ALL begging on the streets of london, gangs of women wearing curtains round their heads with a rented drugged baby seemingly welded to their hips and a dirty hand pushed forcefully into your face while the men pick pockets .
there is a war going on and it is not all in the balkans
however flippant this statement may seem it is the truth
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pabloback said:
Theres a shitload in Greece Causing chaos as well.
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OUTSIDER said:
Don't remember the exact quote, but Bismarck is supposed to have said the "next great war will come out of some 'damn fool thing' in the Balkans" and like those two other great hate spots - the Middle East and Northern Ireland - the cycle of violence and revenge just seems to continue unabated regardless of military intervention on the part of outside powers...
all of which makes me think that NATO sending in troops is an exercise in futility...
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pabloback said:
That's what I meant. Heartless as it may seem, as Europe is going to slowly withdraw from NATO, replacing it with the RDF (the "Euro Army"), Macedonia is just another test run to see what does work and what doesn't.
Times have changed though. One improvement is that the advanced force of UK troops (about 400 in all) have all been issued with phone cards so they can phone home!
Seeing as how Greece is a NATO country, and the the possible spread of insurgency (yes, I know there is already some going on there), I thikn it makes good sense.
As for all the Albanian bashing, quit it. I work with two Albanians here in the States, both work their asses off trying to make ends meet, and are trying to bring the relatives over to help them make better lives. If we want to categorize people by the bad parts of their heritage, lets do it. The Greeks ought to stop killing all the damn Turks and leave Cyprus alone. The English are nothing more than footie mad hooligans. The Mics are nothing but Guinness drinking loud mouth car bombers. The Frogs are Arab hating snobs.
As for all the Albanian bashing, quit it. I work with two Albanians here in the States, both work their asses off trying to make ends meet, and are trying to bring the relatives over to help them make better lives. If we want to categorize people by the bad parts of their heritage, lets do it. The Greeks ought to stop killing all the damn Turks and leave Cyprus alone. The English are nothing more than footie mad hooligans. The Mics are nothing but Guinness drinking loud mouth car bombers. The Frogs are Arab hating snobs.
