Myth of the sideways pussy

[AnAngelReally]

I'm usually pretty good when it comes to researching a subject.
This time, I hit a wall.

I'm researching the myth about the "sideways pussy"
It is purportedly the vagina of an Asian female.
The first mention I heard of this myth was by GIs returning from Vietnam.

I'm trying to find a reference to the origin of the myth.

Can anyone help me?

 

[lovecraft68]

I never knew it was an actual myth.

To me its a racist joke, slanted eyes slanted pussy.

 

[holliday1960]

..........

 

[NOIRTRASH]

In Vietnam I saw it everywhere.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Its the International dateline does it. Everythings backwards. Get this, I left Vietnam at 7:30 PM and landed at Seattle 7:00Pm the same day.

 

[TxRad]

Its the International dateline does it. Everythings backwards. Get this, I left Vietnam at 7:30 PM and landed at Seattle 7:00Pm the same day.

That's hard to do since it was a sixteen hour flight. By the way, the air force base outside San Fransisco was the returning point for most everyone. I made that flight three times so I know of what I speak.

The only time i came through Seattle was ferrying planes back to California. Vietnam to Okinawa, to Japan, up the Aleutian Islands to Anchorage and then down the west coast.

 

[lovecraft68]

The myth, or not, began after WWII when the island of Japan was bombed at Hiroshima. Reportedly, children were born in the aftermath with birth defects, and this was one of the supposed defects. That's all I know about that.

The only way to know if that's true or not is if Obama apologizes for sideways pussies.

 

[TxRad]

My dad served in the south pacific during WW2. The slanted or sideways pussy was a joke. Most people back then had no ideas of what the Japanese or Asian people in general were like. The usual silliness of ignorance.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Bush hog is the only pussy out where TEX lives.

Up by Lovecraft all the pussy's got handles up front.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

The reason you can't find any info on it is because it's a joke, a funny played on new recruits in the military during the Vietnam era.

There is also part of it that when the girl slides down a banister it makes a sound that I can't reproduce with the written word.

 

[J_R_Ashunwhy]

I'm usually pretty good when it comes to researching a subject.
This time, I hit a wall.

I'm researching the myth about the "sideways pussy"
It is purportedly the vagina of an Asian female.
The first mention I heard of this myth was by GIs returning from Vietnam.

I'm trying to find a reference to the origin of the myth.

Can anyone help me?

Yeah, that's just some good ol' fashioned racism, but I like a challenge for researching random nonsense...


"UC-Santa Cruz professor Judy Yung has written that the rumor dates back at least to the 1850s. It may have arisen from the interface of the Chinese with the English, who took over Hong Kong in the 1840s. British writer Colin Watson, writing in 1971 about the treatment of Asian subjects in English crime stories, noted "the widespread belief that the labial plane of a Chinese vagina was horizontal instead of vertical and consequently less prized by native sensualists." Apparently, you could titillate British audiences with stories of white women and their superior vertical vaginas being kidnapped for exploitation in the Chinese brothel market.

A 1970 erotica study opines that the myth is "American folklore" that has persisted because Chinese-Americans were historically segregated from the general American population. In other words, because men were unable to regularly sample Chinese vajayjays in the name of science or otherwise, American men were forced to conclude the rumor must be true. However, since many American men in the military served in Asia between WWII and Vietnam, the myth may have been kept alive as an obvious joke. Certainly the joke seems to have been fairly well spread among American men by the 1940s."

edit: the original source url won't post, so I added the references used in the article. enjoy

 

[holliday1960]

..........

 

[Hypoxia]

Plot bunny: a plastic surgeon specializes in re-orienting (pun intended) pussies from vertical to horizontal to satisfy fetishists and ignoramuses. The big question: where to locate the clit?

Setting: Okinawa, 1950s. An enterprising / desperate brothel owner hires a noted (but drunkenly unstable) plastic surgeon to reconfigure the girls to meet expectations of USA GIs who believe the myth. The surgeon is wasted / flaky so he sometimes puts stuff at the wrong angle. Sideways either way? At a diagonal? Upside-down? A girl never knows how she'll emerge from surgery. Hilarity ensues.

 

[AnAngelReally]

Yeah, that's just some good ol' fashioned racism, but I like a challenge for researching random nonsense...


"UC-Santa Cruz professor Judy Yung has written that the rumor dates back at least to the 1850s. It may have arisen from the interface of the Chinese with the English, who took over Hong Kong in the 1840s. British writer Colin Watson, writing in 1971 about the treatment of Asian subjects in English crime stories, noted "the widespread belief that the labial plane of a Chinese vagina was horizontal instead of vertical and consequently less prized by native sensualists." Apparently, you could titillate British audiences with stories of white women and their superior vertical vaginas being kidnapped for exploitation in the Chinese brothel market.

A 1970 erotica study opines that the myth is "American folklore" that has persisted because Chinese-Americans were historically segregated from the general American population. In other words, because men were unable to regularly sample Chinese vajayjays in the name of science or otherwise, American men were forced to conclude the rumor must be true. However, since many American men in the military served in Asia between WWII and Vietnam, the myth may have been kept alive as an obvious joke. Certainly the joke seems to have been fairly well spread among American men by the 1940s."

edit: the original source url won't post, so I added the references used in the article. enjoy

Thank you J R!

That's exactly what I was looking for.

Thank you all for your comments.

 

[Kimikimidoll]

Plot bunny: a plastic surgeon specializes in re-orienting (pun intended) pussies from vertical to horizontal to satisfy fetishists and ignoramuses. The big question: where to locate the clit?

Setting: Okinawa, 1950s. An enterprising / desperate brothel owner hires a noted (but drunkenly unstable) plastic surgeon to reconfigure the girls to meet expectations of USA GIs who believe the myth. The surgeon is wasted / flaky so he sometimes puts stuff at the wrong angle. Sideways either way? At a diagonal? Upside-down? A girl never knows how she'll emerge from surgery. Hilarity ensues.

As a medical professional my head is buzzing with the complexities of the procedure.. other than the usual AVN shit, the girl's pelvic organs might as well fall out when she stands up, due to the messy orientation of the pelvic floor muscles...
See my personal problem is that the clit is too far away during penetrating sex. I vote upside down, sideways. Then at least something is touching it all the time :/

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Or we may be talking about female genital mutilation where the clitoris and labia are amputated and the wound closed to prevent penile penetration until marriage. FGM is practiced in areas of Africa colonized by the British, especially Muslim societies.

I found a few photos of the raw wound but none of the healed results. A description of the operation suggests the 'gash' is closed except for a small hole to drain menstrual discharge.

I suggest FGM is where the 'myth' started.

 

[Hypoxia]

As a medical professional my head is buzzing with the complexities of the procedure.. other than the usual AVN shit, the girl's pelvic organs might as well fall out when she stands up, due to the messy orientation of the pelvic floor muscles...:/

This is LIT fantasyland so we can invent whatever procedures we wish. Or we can invent mutant races of women with sideways slits. These should be easier to construct than vampires, were-critters, unicorns, etc. Hey, make the women demonic! A succubus is easily recognized by her modified anatomy. With teeth.

See my personal problem is that the clit is too far away during penetrating sex. I vote upside down, sideways. Then at least something is touching it all the time

Possibilities:

* Slit is horizontal, clit is top-dead-center
* Slit is horizontal with a clit at either end
* Slit is diagonal, clit is about as usual
* Pussy is upside-down -- OK for 69ing

Don't even think about the accessories that could be added to the reconstruction.

 

[NoJo]

I'm peeing out of my ass at this thread

 

[Kimikimidoll]

This is LIT fantasyland so we can invent whatever procedures we wish. Or we can invent mutant races of women with sideways slits. These should be easier to construct than vampires, were-critters, unicorns, etc. Hey, make the women demonic! A succubus is easily recognized by her modified anatomy. With teeth.

Possibilities:

* Slit is horizontal, clit is top-dead-center
* Slit is horizontal with a clit at either end
* Slit is diagonal, clit is about as usual
* Pussy is upside-down -- OK for 69ing

Don't even think about the accessories that could be added to the reconstruction.

This sounds like a morbid fetish but oh my god a clit at either end.. yessss
Where did the myth of vagina dentata come from? Why? Like that would discourage men.. they'd be even more interested to find out what's down there (and for the weird ones, it might even be a dream come true... finally a vagina that can give the pain of a bad blowjob!)

 

[SusanJillParker]

I'm so embarrassed to admit this but...for the good of the forum board, I will.

(Deep breath)

"I have a sideways pussy. I do. My mother has a sideways pussy. She does. We spent a lot of out time sliding down the banister without wearing panties."

Seriously, it's the truth. The noise our pussy lips made was the same sound when blowing air through your closed mouth only louder and longer.

No one knew what we were doing, they thought we were just having fun but we were masturbating ourselves.

"God, now that I remember it, I had multiple orgasms going down the water slide at the water park."

"Susan. You're all flushed. Are you okay?"

"Huh? Oh, that, I, um, just really, really like going down the water slide.

"I can see that but you really need to wear your bikini bottom when going down the water slide. It's a hygiene thing."

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Or we may be talking about female genital mutilation where the clitoris and labia are amputated and the wound closed to prevent penile penetration until marriage. FGM is practiced in areas of Africa colonized by the British, especially Muslim societies.

I found a few photos of the raw wound but none of the healed results. A description of the operation suggests the 'gash' is closed except for a small hole to drain menstrual discharge.

I suggest FGM is where the 'myth' started.

fgm is the most horrific crime that can be done to a young girl, and totally illegal.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

I have no idea why JBJ would think a North African practice would be the source of an Asian insult.

The practice of infibulation, as distinct from clitoridectomy, is most common in southern Egypt and Northern Sudan. It continues, even where outlawed, and is mostly encouraged by traditonalist grandmothers. It has no basis in the Koran, but is "justified" by the Islamic thesis that "God gave nine-tenths of passion to women." that is, that women were created with little control of their own sex drives. The removal of the clitoris, labia majora, and labia minora, with a subsequent "pinning' (hence the term "infibualtion") of the wound so it closes with only a small opening for the passage pf urine and menses, is done to "control" the woman's otherwise "uncontrollable" sexual appetite. In the societies that practice fgm, women who have not been infibulated are considered "whores," and subject to sexual exploitation by anyone who wants to abuse them. Grandmothers want it done to their granddaughters so that they won't become abused whores.

It is, in a very real sense, the extreme end of the range of "rape culture" belief and behaviour with which we are so familiar. In its "mildest" form, it appears as blaming women for "provoking" men's lust by wearing revealing clothes or not hiding themselves sufficiently (it was, "of course," Susanna's fault that the elders spied on her and got hot and bothered). Remember, when the Pope met with Ayatollah Khomenei, they found common ties in the certainty that all men's problems were caused by women.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I have no idea why JBJ would think a North African practice would be the source of an Asian insult.

The practice of infibulation, as distinct from clitoridectomy, is most common in southern Egypt and Northern Sudan. It continues, even where outlawed, and is mostly encouraged by traditonalist grandmothers. It has no basis in the Koran, but is "justified" by the Islamic thesis that "God gave nine-tenths of passion to women." that is, that women were created with little control of their own sex drives. The removal of the clitoris, labia majora, and labia minora, with a subsequent "pinning' (hence the term "infibualtion") of the wound so it closes with only a small opening for the passage pf urine and menses, is done to "control" the woman's otherwise "uncontrollable" sexual appetite. In the societies that practice fgm, women who have not been infibulated are considered "whores," and subject to sexual exploitation by anyone who wants to abuse them. Grandmothers want it done to their granddaughters so that they won't become abused whores.

It is, in a very real sense, the extreme end of the range of "rape culture" belief and behaviour with which we are so familiar. In its "mildest" form, it appears as blaming women for "provoking" men's lust by wearing revealing clothes or not hiding themselves sufficiently (it was, "of course," Susanna's fault that the elders spied on her and got hot and bothered). Remember, when the Pope met with Ayatollah Khomenei, they found common ties in the certainty that all men's problems were caused by women.

Lemme help you out. FGM is most common from Egypt, south down the Indian coat of Africa. It also straddles Africa south of the Sahara. The Limeys were dominant in those regions, plus South Asia, Southeast Asia, China, etc. Plus the Muslims dominate the Asian islands and parts of the Philippines.

Tio the only areas you know more than me is cooking with foreskins.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Lemme help you out. FGM is most common from Egypt, south down the Indian coat of Africa. It also straddles Africa south of the Sahara. The Limeys were dominant in those regions, plus South Asia, Southeast Asia, China, etc. Plus the Muslims dominate the Asian islands and parts of the Philippines.

Tio the only areas you know more than me is cooking with foreskins.

Sorry JBJ, but it is not a general practice in Islam. Don't confuse infibulation with other forms of female (or male) genital mutilation.

 

[Kimikimidoll]

Lemme help you out. FGM is most common from Egypt, south down the Indian coat of Africa. It also straddles Africa south of the Sahara. The Limeys were dominant in those regions, plus South Asia, Southeast Asia, China, etc. Plus the Muslims dominate the Asian islands and parts of the Philippines.

Tio the only areas you know more than me is cooking with foreskins.

Although the Muslims dominate the Asian Islands and east of the Gulf, they don't practice FGM nor were they ever accused of having sideways pussies.
(I'm just agreeing with you)