My Story Has Been Sent Back. Help?

[Mistress_Jaiyde]

Hi all!
So, I’ve had my story sent back twice, and I’m unsure what to do. It’s been edited by a volunteer and actual editor, and it’s still getting rejected. What do I do?

 

[lovecraft68]

What is the reason being given for the rejection? There should be one in the message.

 

[Mistress_Jaiyde]

Here it is:

 

[AwkwardMD]

This is a rejection for AI usage. Can you re-open the document you wrote this in and undo suggested changes?

 

[lovecraft68]

Sounds crazy, but at this point in time with the AI issues, you're better off having some imperfect grammar and a typo here and there.

The apocalypse is truly upon us when I ma benefitting from my shoddy grammar and not caring about it.

 

[jaF0]

This is a rejection for AI usage. Can you re-open the document you wrote this in and undo suggested changes?

I've seen a lot of these posts mentioning MS Word in one way or another.

 

[Mistress_Jaiyde]

Undo suggested changes?

 

[AwkwardMD]

Undo suggested changes?

Yes

 

[jaF0]

Undo suggested changes?

Word and other programs do funny things to documents and leave all sorts of artifacts.


Are you uploading files, or pasting text into the submission box?


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[Mistress_Jaiyde]

Word and other programs do funny things to documents and leave all sorts of artifacts.


Are you uploading files, or pasting text into the submission box?


.

Uploading a .txt file.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Uploading a .txt file.

Try copy pasting into the submission box. That way you should see any code that shouldn't be there, and you can remove it.

Not guaranteed to work, but it might.

Your story has been rejected as being assisted by AI.

 

[RejectReality]

If it's been rejected twice for AI, you may as well give it up. Rewriting something you wrote to please a hallucinating AI that purports to detect AI is a fool's errand. You don't even know what passages this drunken bot is complaining about, so you're just randomly changing things hoping something works if you try. Not worth it. Write this one off as far as posting it here goes, and take it to another venue.

 

[gunhilltrain]

If it's been rejected twice for AI, you may as well give it up. Rewriting something you wrote to please a hallucinating AI that purports to detect AI is a fool's errand. You don't even know what passages this drunken bot is complaining about, so you're just randomly changing things hoping something works if you try. Not worth it. Write this one off as far as posting it here goes, and take it to another venue.

There is something Orwellian about this AI problem. Merely being accused of a "thoughtcrime" is enough to get you rejected. My favorite 1984 cover, tarted up by Signet Books. Looks like there is a Lit story in there somewhere. Maybe somebody could write a "LitSoc" parody?

https://parigibooks.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/35159_2.jpg?auto=webp&v=1666193046

 

[AwkwardMD]

If it's been rejected twice for AI, you may as well give it up. Rewriting something you wrote to please a hallucinating AI that purports to detect AI is a fool's errand. You don't even know what passages this drunken bot is complaining about, so you're just randomly changing things hoping something works if you try. Not worth it. Write this one off as far as posting it here goes, and take it to another venue.

Wild conjecture, at best. Misleading, at worst.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Wild conjecture, at best. Misleading, at worst.

They can defend themselves, they don't need us to do it for them. We're not even employed by them. I know they're busy, but they treat the writers shabbily.

 

[AwkwardMD]

They can defend themselves, they don't need us to do it for them. We're not even employed by them. I know they're busy, but they treat the writers shabbily.

1) Misinformation helps no one.
2) They don't treat us at all beyond providing a platform. Reading malice in their actions is like assuming a slots machine doesn't like you if you don’t win in ten pulls or less.

 

[RejectReality]

1) Misinformation helps no one.
2) They don't treat us at all beyond providing a platform. Reading malice in their actions is like assuming a slots machine doesn't like you if you don’t win in ten pulls or less.

It's not malice. It's honest advice. Virtually nothing that gets flagged as AI ever sees the light of day. There's mountains of evidence of late. Those that do might get through on attempt and month 7. You're trying to correct "errors" blind. All you're doing is tilting at windmills.

You can sit here and bang your head against a wall for months, likely to no gain, or you can take it to another venue and have it in front of readers tomorrow. It doesn't matter how much bigger Lit is than anywhere else when nobody's ever going to see it here.

 

[AwkwardMD]

It's not malice. It's honest advice. Virtually nothing that gets flagged as AI ever sees the light of day. There's mountains of evidence of late. Those that do might get through on attempt and month 7. You're trying to correct "errors" blind. All you're doing is tilting at windmills.

You can sit here and bang your head against a wall for months, likely to no gain, or you can take it to another venue and have it in front of readers tomorrow. It doesn't matter how much bigger Lit is than anywhere else when nobody's ever going to see it here.

You don't know that those people authors didn't abuse ChatGPT (or whatever). You have no more evidence than I do.

 

[RejectReality]

You don't know that those people authors didn't abuse ChatGPT (or whatever). You have no more evidence than I do.

And if someone is using AI, it's still never going to see the light of day. Six of one, half a dozen of another.

All you can do is run your text through one of the umpteen so-called AI detectors ( no two of which will ever agree ) and modify what they complain about, which may not be what the one Lit is using is complaining about. You're just throwing stuff against the wall until it sticks.

Pointless frustration to no gain.

 

[AwkwardMD]

so-called AI detectors

We agree that these are garbage and should not be trusted.

And if someone is using AI, it's still never going to see the light of day.

We disagree that this is a problem. I'm perfectly fine with stories that fail this check not getting published, and I'll believe it's "a hallucinating AI" when it starts happening to Lit authors whose process I trust.

 

[RejectReality]

We agree that these are garbage and should not be trusted.


We disagree that this is a problem. I'm perfectly fine with stories that fail this check not getting published, and I'll believe it's "a hallucinating AI" when it starts happening to Lit authors whose process I trust.

There's no such thing as a non-hallucinating AI.

I see no point in telling anyone to beat their head against a wall, whether they're genuinely getting railroaded or trying to find a way to fool the detector. Either they are using AI, or they need to completely modify their authorial voice to please some program that doesn't like them. Neither is a useful endeavor.

 

[AwkwardMD]

There's no such thing as a non-hallucinating AI.

I see no point in telling anyone to beat their head against a wall, whether they're genuinely getting railroaded or trying to find a way to fool the detector. Either they are using AI, or they need to completely modify their authorial voice to please some program that doesn't like them. Neither is a useful endeavor.

We agree that they're garbage.

We disagree that Lit's system is "an ai detector" like this one, the top Google search. These are bullshit and should not be trusted, but if this was the system then statistically speaking most of the AH author pool would have gotten at least one flag. There would be a dozen authors in every event complaining, but that's not happening. It's always new authors, or authors with maybe one submission from 4 years ago.

 

[RejectReality]

We agree that they're garbage.

We disagree that Lit's system is "an ai detector" like this one, the top Google search. These are bullshit and should not be trusted, but if this was the system then statistically speaking most of the AH author pool would have gotten at least one flag. There would be a dozen authors in every event complaining, but that's not happening. It's always new authors, or authors with maybe one submission from 4 years ago.

Laurel has attached notes to rejections and responded to PM queries saying it was run through an AI detector. One is being used.

Maybe she's only using it on new authors or names she doesn't recognize, but one is being used, and if you're getting flagged by it, there's no point in fighting it.

 

[JohnnyT369]

Hi all!
So, I’ve had my story sent back twice, and I’m unsure what to do. It’s been edited by a volunteer and actual editor, and it’s still getting rejected. What do I do?

when I first got on literotica I wrote a story where all actors were adults. It got rejected with no explanation of why. At that time they suggested you allow one of their "editors" read or grammar and spelling. They rejected it without showing if I had spelling mistakes or poor grammar. I don't even know how to posts stories now because I haven't been on lit for several years and it seems like they've changed things.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

@Mistress_Jaiyde, there's something weird going on with your account. Maybe that's related?

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/owner-of-story-changes-when-story-is-displayed.1627115/

-Rocco