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...for these assholes.

from FOXNews

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Judge Denies Sniper Suspect Better Jail Treatment

FAIRFAX, Va. — Jailed sniper suspect John Lee Malvo, whose lawyers claim his right to privacy and other rights have been violated by his guards, was denied a request for a court order requiring better treatment.

Juvenile Court Judge Charles Maxfield refused to grant the order Friday. Defense lawyers had claimed that their 17-year-old client's mattress is too thin, he has been denied reading material, his cell lights glare 24 hours a day and he is being denied vegetarian meals.

"This is about the right to human dignity," lawyer Michael Arif told Maxfield....

..."You're going to have to present a lot more evidence" of inhumane treatment, Maxfield said, to merit further intervention.

Prosecutor Robert Horan Jr. called Arif's motion "slightly short of frivolous."

"Jail is not a nice place," Horan said after the hearing. "But it's better than the front seat of a Chevy Caprice." The car served as a home to Malvo and Muhammad, and authorities believe they fired shots from the Caprice during last month's sniper spree.

Arif said after the hearing that his client is being kept in isolation. He said Malvo's cell has a checker table but no checkers, so he uses torn pieces of a business card to play the game against himself.

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Waaaaaaaaa!
 
Give the kid a bag of mulch.
If the jail is such a shit hole, shouldn't this be a class action from all the prisoners?

Give the kid his veggie meals. Everything else, it's jail not a resort.
 
Awww, poor mass murdering sick fuck. I'm so sorry he isn't getting he veggie burgers! Afterall, killing a poor innocent creature must be horrifying...wait...
 
My heart is pumping marshmellow fluff.

Give the kid a break.
He had a chaotic youth and was vulnerable enough to be mislead by the Sniper.

You can't hold him accountable for his actions. He is just a kid.






















NOT!:p
 
Is it just me, or isn't jail supposed to be a place where you don't have a lot of comfort, and you don't get everything you want?
 
If the above facts are true then Göring and Co. got a better treatment in prison during the Nürnberg trials than this kid.

Then again as uncle Joe said "Kill one man and it's a tragedy,kill a million and it's a statistic"

I'm sure the judge denied it for just the reason he said,more proof is needed,until proven it's a defense ploy to get sympathy.
 
All whinners are morified more by losing their own rights than taking those away from others. Selfishness isn't a crime, yet should be if you try to impose your will without reguard to those rights. The don't hate me if I am pretty paradigm is never more true when those who lose control cry foul. I have no respect for anyone who thinks they are God, no matter what reason or mind crippling malady they seem to possess. Dignity isn't a right if you adhere to the ole biblical saying of an eye for an eye, which isn't meant to be a literal meaning. If you take away someone's dignity, you have no right to have your own. When you cross the line of violating rights, every right you take away is one less you have yourself. This is justice, no more, no less.
 
If Kosher meals are available and given out, his Veggie meals should.

Everything else is bullshit.
 
Angel said:
If Kosher meals are available and given out, his Veggie meals should.

Everything else is bullshit.

Feed the fucker a solid diet of bologna sandwiches and water.

Chuck him a multi-vitamin once a day.
 
Why?

Why should the courtesy of a meal that he deems fit to eat for whatever purpose be denied to him when it is not denied to other criminals who have done just as bad or worse?
 
Hey he can have all the veggie meals he wants for all I care. Serve him a full head of boiled cabbage every meal.
 
Angel said:
Why?

Why should the courtesy of a meal that he deems fit to eat for whatever purpose be denied to him when it is not denied to other criminals who have done just as bad or worse?

It doesn't have anything to do with denying him or anyone else anything. It has to do with not giving him special privileges.

My philosophy is that criminals don't deserve special treatment of any kind. I think prison should be a miserable experience.

Vegetarian meals are just a preference. If he gets a special vegetarian meal, why can't the next guy have Jello chocolate pudding? Why can't the next guy have a Roast beef sandwich every day?

Unless it's going to actually kill the guy or make him physically ill, let him eat what's on the menu with the rest of the criminals.
 
Angel said:
If Kosher meals are available and given out, his Veggie meals should.

Everything else is bullshit.

Are there really Kosher meals in prison????? :rolleyes:
 
Yes there are kosher meals. If a person, even a criminal, follows a certain diet for religious reasons, the legal system is obligated to respect that. As far as I know tho no established religion's dietary customs neccessarily include Jello chocolate pudding.
 
So should prisoners not be given Kosher meals as well? It's a religious thing, not something that would make them ill.

I agree nobody should be given special treatment, but I think that serving kosher food, or giving the guy an extra helping of veggies instead of a meat product isn't a huge deal.

Only if the courtesy is given to someone who has dedicated their life to only eating Kosher, or not forcing muslims to eat pork, that they can do the same for someone who has dedicated their life to eating vegetables.

He could of course, just not eat the meat portions and chow the veggies.
 
Lasher said:
Of course. Where do you think airplane food comes from????


:eek:
Well then...I'm afraid I have to agree with PC on this one!

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Unless it's going to actually kill the guy or make him physically ill, let him eat what's on the menu with the rest of the criminals.
 
I have to agree with PC. I think prison should be a miserable expirience. All rights that don't threaten a prisoner's life should be removed.
 
Problem Child said:

Cool :)

I feel that as long as they're allowing Kosher and Pork-free meals, they should extend the same courtesy to someone else, such as a Vegetarian. They can do this without giving people "Treats".

If they didn't do this, I would have no problem at all with the denial of a Vegetarian meal.

Personally, I think they should just provide nutritional food. If something on it was something an individual didn't want to eat for religious or whatever reasons, they could eat the other stuff and just go hungry.
 
Angel said:
Cool :)

Personally, I think they should just provide nutritional food. If something on it was something an individual didn't want to eat for religious or whatever reasons, they could eat the other stuff and just go hungry.

I agree with this. The prison merely needs to provide healthy nutritious food. A vegetarian may choose simply not eat whatever meat is offered and double up on the non-meat foods that are provided.

I still say tough shit on the Kosher meals. Don't eat the ham, and pray a little more often. You'll be alright.
 
Problem Child said:
I agree with this. The prison merely needs to provide healthy nutritious food. A vegetarian may choose simply not eat whatever meat is offered and double up on the non-meat foods that are provided.

I still say tough shit on the Kosher meals. Don't eat the ham, and pray a little more often. You'll be alright.


I agree completely. My first posts were just based on the fact that they do provide Kosher meals. :p
 
sunstruck said:
I have to agree with PC. I think prison should be a miserable expirience. All rights that don't threaten a prisoner's life should be removed.


Like the sheriff in Arizona

bologna and pink boxers.

veggies get a bread sandwich. (three slices)
 
HeavyStick said:
Like the sheriff in Arizona

bologna and pink boxers.

veggies get a bread sandwich. (three slices)

Don't forget the water, for hell's sake! :rolleyes:

HS - would veggies get the pink boxers as well - or just the bread? :confused:
 
HeavyStick said:
Like the sheriff in Arizona

bologna and pink boxers.

veggies get a bread sandwich. (three slices)


Sherriff Joe Arpeillo (hope I'm not screwing the name up too badly). Desert Amazon will probably be along to tell us about him.

I wonder what his recitivism rate is like. If nothing else, he's saving the taxpayers money.
 
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