My daughter was sent out of class today.

sweetsubsarahh said:
Another student was bothering her because of the way in which she answered a question.

She answered correctly, too correctly, if you understand my meaning. With great detail.

That sounds more than vaguely familiar. ;)
 
Hah! Good for your daughter.

She doesn't suffer fools gladly--like her mom. :D

Sounds like that dude has a future in carpentry. ;)
 
a chip off the old block-ess. good for her and you.

but some diplomacy is not a bad thing for a smart kid; one is ill served in life if the basic attitude that is displayed

(as opposed to kept inside) is 'there are lots of dumb fuckers around me i have to deal with.'
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?

This is the class where the teacher keeps putting the kids in groups. There are good and bad things about working together, obviously, but often at this age it's a bad thing for the "smart" kids.

Often they wind up doing most of the work because they want the project to be correct. Or they are paired with some less-than-motivated students and since everyone's grade is determined by the end result they do all the work anyway.

She'd rather work by herself most of the time (or with other gifted kids) and I don't blame her.

Young son's the same way - he gets so annoyed when people do not understand. But there's a time and a place.

And we talk about this at home. Sometimes you can get through it all without confrontation. Don't try to make someone feel insignificant when they are having difficulty with an assignment, don't you hate the way you feel when you don't understand something? It's no use alienating everyone just so you can claim brilliance, right?

Anyway. I am proud of her standing up for herself.

:rose:
That all sounds very familiar ;)

Good on her.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?

This is the class where the teacher keeps putting the kids in groups. There are good and bad things about working together, obviously, but often at this age it's a bad thing for the "smart" kids.

Often they wind up doing most of the work because they want the project to be correct. Or they are paired with some less-than-motivated students and since everyone's grade is determined by the end result they do all the work anyway.

She'd rather work by herself most of the time (or with other gifted kids) and I don't blame her.[snip]
reminds me of when I was advanced into Chemistry as a Sophomore. I got paired up for labs with a Senior who was a 'greaser' - black leather coat, t-shirt, jeans, and boots, the works. I didn't mind so much in the labs, but he kept trying to sit by me and copy my tests, and threatened me if I didn't help him.

To paraphrase Dean Wormer, "Skinny, drunk, and smart is no way to go through life, kid."
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?

This is the class where the teacher keeps putting the kids in groups. There are good and bad things about working together, obviously, but often at this age it's a bad thing for the "smart" kids.

Often they wind up doing most of the work because they want the project to be correct. Or they are paired with some less-than-motivated students and since everyone's grade is determined by the end result they do all the work anyway.
Ah that brings back memories.

But not as much from the classroom 20 years ago as from the office 5 years ago. Guess why I got fed up and went back to college?
 
My son, the one I call the Man-child, is a smart ass, yes a smart ass. He is a vat of knowledge when he wants to be. Too many times he has corrected teachers and offered his un-asked for answers.

For this, he gets into trouble. His science teacher last year thought she would fix him by having him teach the class. I actually got a phone call saying he did a great job teaching and she asked him to teach twice more before the end of term.

He is too smart at times which causes him to be lazy in school, yet he hasnt found the happy medium yet between the easy stuff and the stuff thats too hard.

Your kids are doing well, keep up the good work!
C
 
Isn't it hard to be a mom and a teacher at the same time?

*snicker*

You and the kid did good.

:D
 
PURE

A smart kid's mere existance is provocation enough for the retards. I dont agree that everyone should be tossed together in the same tank at school; it doesnt really improve the self esteem of the dummies,
because theyre reminded of their inferior status and dismal futures.

Put them in the army where they walk in front of tanks thru minefields.
 
uh, I am stepping on eggs but, the gifted kids get very alienated in school. As a parent, except for supporting the kid's curiosity and brilliance of course, one should make sure to stress the social side of life.

Gifted kids are very lonely, specially when dumb ass teachers put them to "teach the class" and things like that. It makes the other kids feel lesser and they repay the gifted kid back in full.

Suffering the fools is part of life...

Maharat
former mascot teacher
 
What did Mencken say? Democracy is the notion that a herd of imbeciles knows more than one smart individual, and they get to make all the rules because there are more of them.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
PURE

A smart kid's mere existance is provocation enough for the retards. I dont agree that everyone should be tossed together in the same tank at school; it doesnt really improve the self esteem of the dummies,
because theyre reminded of their inferior status and dismal futures.

I agree when the difference is too big. If, on the other hand, the smart kid can help the slower ones they can both learn about peaceful co-existence.

Put them in the army where they walk in front of tanks thru minefields.

Uh... perhaps I lost my sense of humor, but that's not funny to me.
I teach young adults who suffer from all sorts of dysfunctional stuff. The one thing they all learned quite well in school is that they're stupid and have no talents or worth.

:(
 
BLACKTULIP

The minefield idea was standard policy in the old Soviet Union. I kid you not.

I invented cripple. I had/have every malady you can name and kids laugh at you for. But, like I tell kids, God has to humble you before you get the goodies.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
Another student was bothering her because of the way in which she answered a question.

She answered correctly, too correctly, if you understand my meaning. With great detail.

Anyway, as he continued to tease her she said, "I'm sorry, I don't speak stupid. Maybe you can translate?"

It escalated.

The teacher noticed what was happening and sent them both out. :rolleyes:

Later she told me what had happened. She wasn't upset.

And me, being a good mom and professional teacher?

I laughed.

Way to go, kid.

:cathappy:

(I'm still rolling my eyes that this guy sent them out. Problem is, it's my fault. He doesn't have class control and about a month ago I pulled in the big guns. He's been observed and has had the principal sit in more than once. I suppose he's being "extra" careful.)

I think your daughter used just the right words to get the kid to stop, and if the teacher was as observant as he should have been, she wouldn't have needed to say anything as the other kid was sent from the room.

Way to go!!

:rose:
 
Black Tulip said:
The one thing they all learned quite well in school is that they're stupid and have no talents or worth.

:(

That's one thing that was carefully, with much pain and humiliation, to me in school.
 
rgraham666 said:
That's one thing that was carefully, with much pain and humiliation, to me in school.

And me, especially after eight of us had to be taken out of standard math class because we were so bored of the slow pace we started causing trouble. *sigh*

(Blowing up the fume cupboard as revenge in science and making flamethrowers with the gas taps didn't help either)
 
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