Mustang culling , opinions and facts needed

[4est_4est_Gump]

My uncle used to drive his to BPOE meetings.

lol

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's the BLM doing the dirty work for the greedy ranchers, who btw covet the grazing lands that congress set aside for the wild Mustangs.

The BLM is trying to force ranchers off Federal lands which is why they keep taking up arms...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

*chuckle*

Hypoxia and Rom

My wife has hit hay bales, fences, a pond and the river...

The firemen asked me, in the case of the latter, do you want to jump in and 'steer' the car out when we tow it out? I looked at them and said basically, look I'm not going to be that guy in the video where people say, Darwin was right, or as mama always said,

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The BLM is trying to force ranchers off Federal lands which is why they keep taking up arms...

Cliven Bundy owes one million dollars in unpaid grazing fees and you celebrate his theft.

This is why no libertarian ever accumulates over a handful of votes in an election.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I read that fed rates are cheaper than private land owner rates. He just wants a handout from the feds. Bludday socialist lefty.

 

[nerfhearder]

Never a big fan of Mustangs. Always liked the old T-Birds more. Soft spot for the 70's Trans-Ams, too. That's probably more due to Smokey and the Bandit than anything.

 

[Hypoxia]

Never tried it but eating horsemeat taboo is just cultural. Anthromorphizing horses. Just like dogs. No eating intelligent social animals with big soft eyes.

You've never met a horse, eh? Intelligent? Yeah, sure. There's a saying: It doesn't take much brains to sneak up on a blade of grass. No, hippocoprophobia (aversion to eating horses) is more like "don't wreck your car". Horses were near-universal transport till less than a century ago in USA. I know women in a steep mining town (Bisbee AZ) who as growing girls in the 1950s caught stray mules to ride to school or picnics. Eat those mules? That would be like eating their bicycles.

 

[nerfhearder]

You've never met a horse, eh? Intelligent? Yeah, sure. There's a saying: It doesn't take much brains to sneak up on a blade of grass. No, hippocoprophobia (aversion to eating horses) is more like "don't wreck your car". Horses were near-universal transport till less than a century ago in USA. I know women in a steep mining town (Bisbee AZ) who as growing girls in the 1950s caught stray mules to ride to school or picnics. Eat those mules? That would be like eating their bicycles.

Yeah, horses are pretty stupid for the most part. People give them way too much credit. Of course dogs are generally pretty stupid, too and we all go on and on about how smart our dog is. It's really not, it's just smarter than your average carrot.

 

[Hypoxia]

Yeah, horses are pretty stupid for the most part. People give them way too much credit. Of course dogs are generally pretty stupid, too and we all go on and on about how smart our dog is. It's really not, it's just smarter than your average carrot.

Predators evolve different skill-sets than do prey beasts. Prey need to react; predators need to anticipate, which takes a bit more brainpower. Canines' social skills are pretty sophisticated -- watch a pack take down a large critter, hey?

As for vegetable intelligence, well... my partner and I are retired software engineers who first built and programmed systems in the 1960s. I have worked with obstinate primitive microcontrollers. I have been outwitted by machines with less intelligence than a turnip seed. I am humble.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's really both if we're being fair. Yes eating a horse is like eating your car BUT they are also part of the family and you don't eat family. It's the same reason why we are so appalled (in the West anyway) at the concept of eating cats and dogs. They aren't meat to us, they are family.

 

[nerfhearder]

Predators evolve different skill-sets than do prey beasts. Prey need to react; predators need to anticipate, which takes a bit more brainpower. Canines' social skills are pretty sophisticated -- watch a pack take down a large critter, hey?

As for vegetable intelligence, well... my partner and I are retired software engineers who first built and programmed systems in the 1960s. I have worked with obstinate primitive microcontrollers. I have been outwitted by machines with less intelligence than a turnip seed. I am humble.

Dogs are great social creatures but they're still dumb as stumps. We just don't want them to be because they're our friends. Like that one friend that everyone knows is an idiot but you like him hanging around anyway because he's fun.
Of course not all dogs are that stupid. Some are kind of smart but it's usually the working dogs like those Babe dogs. Australian Sheep Fuckers or something or other.

 

[warrior queen]

A lot of Europeans eat horse meat. I had it, when I went back to visit my family.
Didn't know till after the meal.
I was ok with it, probably because I'm a fairly adventurous eater anyway.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Buffalo wings...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...R_IDOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

 

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Controversy

I want to say thanks for all your contributions, from a heading basically requesting info , the posts have been more than informative .
The pure diversity of the replies has been awesome and certainly extended my knowledge what appears to be a very complex and cross border problem
Keep your posts coming , please

 

[Hard_Rom]

It's almost always a tough call. When one species becomes endangered, usually by human presence and activities, we cull predators which by all laws of nature have the right and need to hunt them.

Bog forbid we should restrict human activity. Cull wolves and the tree huggers come out. Restrict natural resource exploitation and the corporations and unemployed come out.

In the B.C. case the natives are pro-cull. Yet many times the same tribes have stood up to protect animal species. (see white spirit bear)

If we did not hunt in SW Ontario, white-tailed deer would over populate quickly. Crop damages and/or herd starvation. Probably both. Can't imagine most folk want wolves and cougars roaming free about the country.

Ideals and realities clash.

http://www.canada.com/technology/co...ortheast+after+completion/11731779/story.html

VICTORIA — British Columbia's controversial helicopter hunt for wolves meant to save endangered caribou herds has shifted from the Kootenays to the northeast.

The Resource Operations Ministry said in a statement Friday that the cull in the South Selkirk region ended recently, but it will not provide current wolf-kill figures until both hunts are complete. The ministry said the aerial wolf hunt is now underway in the northeast's South Peace region, near Chetwynd.

Earlier this year, the government said it planned to shoot 200 wolves in the second year of its five-year plan to save endangered caribou herds. The ministry rejects claims by B.C.'s Wildlife Defence League that all wolves in the South Selkirk area were killed except one.

The ministry says many South Selkirk wolves have been radio-collared, and wolves with territory that isn't in caribou habitat and are not posing a risk to caribou have not been removed.