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Rightguide said:
Give me three rights and privileges under the law attributable to their white skin.
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How about more than three...in no particular order...and these are for white and male privilege, not just men or not just whites. Also some are more obvious than others...


  1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
  2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
  3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
  4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
  5. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race fairly represented.
  6. When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
  7. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
  8. I am not made acutely sure that my body shape, odor, bearing will be taken as a reflection of my race.
  9. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods that fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser’s shop and find someone who can cut my hair.
  10. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
  11. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.
  12. I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race.
  13. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.
  14. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
  15. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
  16. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world’s majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
  17. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behaviour without being seen as a cultural outsider.
  18. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to “the person in charge,” I will be facing a person of my race.
  19. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race.
  20. I can easily buy posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children’s magazines and so on featuring people of my race.
FYI, there are PLENTY more

buying bandages in flesh color that match MY skin
walking into a classroom and not being the only person of my race
are some more


oh and here are some other examples

This is an example of environmental privilege:​

You do not live in a neighborhood that is within one mile of a superfund site (a location polluted with hazardous materials).

This is an example of white privilege:​

You can be sure that if you need legal or medical help, your race will not work against me.

This is an example of male privilege:​

You can live in a capitalist society in which no advertising exists to sell you products to make your crotch smell "meadow fresh".

This is an example of able-bodied privilege:​

You don’t make other people uncomfortable by just existing.

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

I can be open about my sexual orientation without worrying about my job.

This is an example of white privilege:​

If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

Even more importantly: What was your reaction the last time you saw a police officer? Fear? Relief? Local politicians make a point of visiting community organizations and talking with constituents (to get to know what they can do in their role as part of the government). Has a police officer visited your community organization? Have you ever had a friendly conversation with a police officer?

Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear.

This is an example of male privilege:​

If I have children and pursue a career, no one will think I'm selfish for not staying at home.

This is an example of Christian privilege:​

Your faith can be an aspect of your identity without being a defining aspect (e.g., people won’t think of you as their “Christian” friend).

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

Because of my sexual orientation, I do not need to worry that people will harass or assault me.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

People don't ask why I made my choice to be public about my sexual orientation.

This is an example of Christian privilege:​

You can expect to have time off work to celebrate religious holidays.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

This is an example of middle/upper class privilege:​

I have visited a doctor for a “check-up.”

This is an example of cisgender privilege:​

Strangers don't assume they can ask me about my genitalia or my surgical status or how much I "pass" as a non-transgender.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

This is an example of white privilege:​

If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

This is an example of white privilege:​

When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
 
Rightguide said:
What rights and privileges do they have that you don't have?
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Actually I have them all because I’m a white man. But I’m able to admit it exists.
A white man that takes a shortcut across a farmers field doesn’t get shot and killed by police. A black or indigenous man does.
 
LoveLiving said:
Actually I have them all because I’m a white man. But I’m able to admit it exists.
A white man that takes a shortcut across a farmers field doesn’t get shot and killed by police. A black or indigenous man does.
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yep. its not a RIGHT so much more as a PRIVILEGE...something some people dont seem to recognize. I am glad you do.
 
LilKitKat said:
How about more than three...in no particular order...and these are for white and male privilege, not just men or not just whites. Also some are more obvious than others...
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I have to admit, that was an awesome rebuttal, maybe one of the best I've seen against rightguide, and I've seen/wrote a few.

But just for your own information, rightguide has stated he used can's of corn to buy sex from malnourished Vietnamese women while in Vietnam. That is the kind of sick mentality you're dealing with.
 
LilKitKat said:
How about more than three...in no particular order...and these are for white and male privilege, not just men or not just whites. Also some are more obvious than others...


  1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
  2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
  3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
  4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
  5. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race fairly represented.
  6. When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
  7. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
  8. I am not made acutely sure that my body shape, odor, bearing will be taken as a reflection of my race.
  9. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods that fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser’s shop and find someone who can cut my hair.
  10. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
  11. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.
  12. I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race.
  13. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.
  14. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
  15. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
  16. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world’s majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
  17. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behaviour without being seen as a cultural outsider.
  18. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to “the person in charge,” I will be facing a person of my race.
  19. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race.
  20. I can easily buy posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children’s magazines and so on featuring people of my race.
FYI, there are PLENTY more

buying bandages in flesh color that match MY skin
walking into a classroom and not being the only person of my race
are some more


oh and here are some other examples

This is an example of environmental privilege:​

You do not live in a neighborhood that is within one mile of a superfund site (a location polluted with hazardous materials).

This is an example of white privilege:​

You can be sure that if you need legal or medical help, your race will not work against me.

This is an example of male privilege:​

You can live in a capitalist society in which no advertising exists to sell you products to make your crotch smell "meadow fresh".

This is an example of able-bodied privilege:​

You don’t make other people uncomfortable by just existing.

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

I can be open about my sexual orientation without worrying about my job.

This is an example of white privilege:​

If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

Even more importantly: What was your reaction the last time you saw a police officer? Fear? Relief? Local politicians make a point of visiting community organizations and talking with constituents (to get to know what they can do in their role as part of the government). Has a police officer visited your community organization? Have you ever had a friendly conversation with a police officer?

Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear.

This is an example of male privilege:​

If I have children and pursue a career, no one will think I'm selfish for not staying at home.

This is an example of Christian privilege:​

Your faith can be an aspect of your identity without being a defining aspect (e.g., people won’t think of you as their “Christian” friend).

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

Because of my sexual orientation, I do not need to worry that people will harass or assault me.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

This is an example of heterosexual (straight) privilege:​

People don't ask why I made my choice to be public about my sexual orientation.

This is an example of Christian privilege:​

You can expect to have time off work to celebrate religious holidays.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

This is an example of middle/upper class privilege:​

I have visited a doctor for a “check-up.”

This is an example of cisgender privilege:​

Strangers don't assume they can ask me about my genitalia or my surgical status or how much I "pass" as a non-transgender.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

This is an example of white privilege:​

If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

This is an example of white privilege:​

I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

This is an example of white privilege:​

When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
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Ah yes, the infamous "invisible backpack of privilege" list, where everything from being able to buy a greeting card to not having your crotch smell ‘meadow fresh’ is somehow proof of systemic oppression. Conveniently missing: any mention of personal responsibility, cultural differences, or the basic fact that life is unfair to everyone in different ways.

Funny how the list ignores things like dangerous jobs being overwhelmingly held by men, higher suicide rates among men, declining male college enrollment, or how certain 'privileges' like "not being followed in a store" have a lot more to do with crime statistics than skin color. But sure, let’s pretend that the great injustice of our time is that someone might not find their favorite ethnic food at a random grocery store.

If privilege is being measured by who gets what without effort, then the biggest privilege of all is the ability to blame your problems on an entire demographic instead of looking in the mirror. Isn't that right, my dear?
 
As a woman, I face lots of extra issues that a man does not.
As a person who has identifying features that show I am not caucasian or wholly causcasian, I face other issues.

You may not have to ever worry about finding a doll that isnt white, but when dolls were eventually made in other skin tones, you better believe it made an incredile difference for thousands of little kids.

And for things like being followed in a store...yeah, of course white people dont cross the road when they see a young Black male in a hoodie walking down the street, or clutch their wallets a notch tighter. Yeah, ok, whatever!
Or a woman who has to carry rape whistles, mace, tasers, whatever around when they walk back to their car or dorm room or whatever after a class or meal or concert etc. Shit you never have to think about. Its called privilege.
And whether its white, or male, or both, you have it.
And you cant recognize it, and thats fucking pathetic.
 
LilKitKat said:
As a woman, I face lots of extra issues that a man does not.
As a person who has identifying features that show I am not caucasian or wholly causcasian, I face other issues.

You may not have to ever worry about finding a doll that isnt white, but when dolls were eventually made in other skin tones, you better believe it made an incredile difference for thousands of little kids.

And for things like being followed in a store...yeah, of course white people dont cross the road when they see a young Black male in a hoodie walking down the street, or clutch their wallets a notch tighter. Yeah, ok, whatever!
Or a woman who has to carry rape whistles, mace, tasers, whatever around when they walk back to their car or dorm room or whatever after a class or meal or concert etc. Shit you never have to think about. Its called privilege.
And whether its white, or male, or both, you have it.
And you cant recognize it, and thats fucking pathetic.
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BS. See post 82
 
LilKitKat said:
yep. its not a RIGHT so much more as a PRIVILEGE...something some people dont seem to recognize. I am glad you do.
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If privilege means being expected to work hard, take responsibility, and not wallow in self-pity, then sure, I’ll own that privilege. Life isn’t fair, but whining about ‘privilege’ won’t change that. Taking charge of your own destiny will.
 
LoveLiving said:
Actually I have them all because I’m a white man. But I’m able to admit it exists.
A white man that takes a shortcut across a farmers field doesn’t get shot and killed by police. A black or indigenous man does.
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Show me a state where a farmer can shoot any man for simply crossing his field?
 
LilKitKat said:
I actively shame and shit on white males, or just Trump and Musk and the others you worship? Because please let me know when and where I have done that?!


what the fuck, why do I keep feeding trolls?
So done with this shit.

Ill go back to my job, you go back to living under a bridge.
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So sad that you don’t have anything against white males because I would love to have your naked body against this white male.
XO
 
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