Multiculturalism will be the death of us all

[Ishmael]

Didn't know the Chinese did that. I knew that unless you were Han you probably weren't going to go far in the party.

Ishmael

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Blacks and Chinese discriminate among themselves based upon darkness.

But those of us whom have made it and actualy run things don't see ourselves that way.

Multiculturalism over-panders to the poor because it requires victims to have validity hence those people are poor based on skin color when, in reality, those people are poor and stupid because they simply don't have to deal with winter...

In the big cities, we set them up nicely too, where they languish and vegetate because necessity is the true mother of invention; if most tribal voters had to scramble for their existance they would dissassociate with a losing tribe faster than the airing of a Survivor episode...

But we work Bureaucracal Monuments of Legislation designed to make loyalty to the tribe the most important factor in getting your hand-out. This is seemingly the Liberal definition of diversity, keeping all the fish in the proper pond.

Bureaucracal? Have you been attending the George W. Bush school of elocution?

You're right that the current system does seem to fossilize the current racial & social status quo in some ways rather than alleviate it. But on balance, things would end up much worse for most people currently represented by race-identity-politics. They'd suffer disproportionately. White Americans would do disproportionately well.

People have to feel like they belong to some tribe. Who's going to represent poor blacks better than in the current system?

 

[Ishmael]

Bureaucracal? Have you been attending the George W. Bush school of elocution?

You're right that the current system does seem to fossilize the current racial & social status quo in some ways rather than alleviate it. But on balance, things would end up much worse for most people currently represented by race-identity-politics. They'd suffer disproportionately. White Americans would do disproportionately well.

People have to feel like they belong to some tribe. Who's going to represent poor blacks better than in the current system?

In a perfect system that would be unneccessary.

First of all, the death of Jim Crow was a result of merely enforcing the law already in place. Not being satisfied with that, we over compensated and put a quota system into effect. Then created a culture of dependency. These actions had at least two consequences. The first being that due to the quota system a man of color wouldn't know if he raised himself up by his own merit or was merely fulfilling a government requirement. It diminished self-worth. And the second was a class of people, not necessarily of any particular color, that learned that filling out the proper paperwork was a job. Gaming the system became high art.

When this country was founded it was by no means homogeous. Mostly in color to be sure, but in religion, ethnic background, etc. this was far from the truth. (How many people realize that German was considered as the national language at the founding?)

The concept was to create a tribe that was joined not by color, ethinic background, religion, or any other outward trapping of the individual but by the philosophies engendered in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Still seems like a pretty good goal to me.

Ishmael

 

[rosco rathbone]

I always feel like I'm in a Heinlein novel when I open these threads.

 

[zipman]

You didn't say said some cultures should be "rejected" by you, as is your business. You said that should be exterminated.

Are you standing by your original statement, that "Cultures are not equal. Some cultures have no business exisitng. They need to be exterminated." Yea or nay?

Even if they are self supporting?

It's rather "twilight zone-esque" to see one of this board's most vocal libertarians calling for the extermination of other cultures.

I thought one of the central premises of libertarianism was that people "should be free to do whatever they wish with their person or property, as long as they do not infringe on the same liberty of others."

I can't decide if predicting that multiculturalism will be the death of us all is hysterical, pathetic or both at the same time.

 

[RoryN]

Tell that to Mike Tyson or Leon Spinks. I was also a Marine; harldy the candidate to be the board wall-flower in real life.

Sounds more like overcompensation.

I am larger than life

*pat on head* Sure you are.

 

[landslider2000]

Rory, you are a silly little boy.

You can't be condescending with any success.

 

[Ishmael]

It's rather "twilight zone-esque" to see one of this board's most vocal libertarians calling for the extermination of other cultures.

I thought one of the central premises of libertarianism was that people "should be free to do whatever they wish with their person or property, as long as they do not infringe on the same liberty of others."

I can't decide if predicting that multiculturalism will be the death of us all is hysterical, pathetic or both at the same time.

Not reading very well, are you Zip? Extermination all, or portions, of certain cultures isn't a bad thing. In some cases it's required to preserve what would remain, in other cases to preserve your own.

Take radical Islam, please.

Ishmael

 

[RobDownSouth]

Not reading very well, are you Zip? Extermination all, or portions, of certain cultures isn't a bad thing. In some cases it's required to preserve what would remain, in other cases to preserve your own.

Take radical Islam, please.

Ishmael

What you are advocating is called genocide.

 

[Ishmael]

Once more Rob the Fucking Troll trots out his ignorance and displays it to all. He never fails to disappoint.

Ishmael

 

[RobDownSouth]

Once more Rob the Fucking Troll trots out his ignorance and displays it to all. He never fails to disappoint.

Ishmael

*I'm* ignorant, you ignorant fucking white trash son of a bitch?

Spin this:

 

[restlessnights]

Hey, if we're drunk Blue Jays fans it probably means that we were ripped off by the high beer prices at the Skydome. That poor tipping is a result of having no money left.

But they haven't assimilated, although they may have become Canadians. They still have their own cultures and values and churches or what have you.

Speaking of the Blue Jays, why are they all white? I watched the game today and saw 1 Latino and 1 African American. Very unusual in MLB.

 

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[Peregrinator]

*I'm* ignorant, you ignorant fucking white trash son of a bitch?

Spin this:

I never realised that genocide applied to extermination of a culture. Huh.

 

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[JustSkye]

What you are advocating is called genocide.

My thoughts as well.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Rob has been spending too much time bobbing for road apples to have a clear view of anything except the bottom of the tub.

Soooo....you side with Ishmaggot and advocate genocide, Vetteman?

Simple yes or no will do.

 

[Peregrinator]

Rob has been spending too much time bobbing for road apples to have a clear view of anything except the bottom of the tub.

He's right about the definition of genocide. *shrug*

 

[RoryN]

Once more Rob the Fucking Troll trots out his ignorance and displays it to all. He never fails to disappoint.

Rob has been spending too much time bobbing for road apples to have a clear view of anything except the bottom of the tub.

Rob was right about the definition of genocide.

Don't take your lack of education out on him. Just appreciate that you were both wrong.

 

[JustSkye]

Rob was right about the definition of genocide.

Don't take your lack of education out on him. Just appreciate that you were both wrong.

Of course they won't see it that way and call those that have differing opinions stupid or ignorant.

 

[Ishmael]

He's right about the definition of genocide. *shrug*

When expanded to the 'cultural' there is some merit.

Now explain to me how it was bad to destroy the Nazi culture, or the Aztec, or many of the other cultures over the years that were either destroyed or modified so as to make them more compatible with a civilized world? Even the Soviet Union was a 'culture' that is no more.

Further, is it cultural genocide to eliminate, or cause to be eliminated, one particular aspect of that culture. It's clear that the culture being operated on is no longer the culture it once was. Given that fact, was 'genocide' commited in forcing the alteration?

Ishmael

 

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[Ishmael]

Yes. I'm not siding with you because wiping out a culture isn't genocide any more than wiping out cannibalism in the Philippines, and Borneo, or Communisn in Eastern Europe was genocide. That may be the popular definition today but I predate that phony definition. Your buddy Carter thought so too when he stood up against Apartheid.

For the record, the below link is the International, legal, definition of genocide. Doesn't quite fit the popularist model.

Genocide

Ishmael

 

[RoryN]

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