Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?

[Beco]

There has to be a solution in all this....surely, we can't get into a nuke war?

I know, I know, don't call me Shirley....

 

[DrDelirium]

There has to be a solution in all this....surely, we can't get into a nuke war?

I know, I know, don't call me Shirley....

If you're talking about Korea, there are several solutions on the table, and have been for many years. The US has rejected all of them.
One is the Nork proposal that they will halt nuclear and missile development if the US and ROK stop holding military exercises directed at overthrowing the NK regime. This was a much better deal last year than it is today, and way better ten years ago.
Another is that the Koreas sign their own bilateral peace and security treaty, and trade development treaties and include a staged withdrawal of US forces. This was approached via the economic development path years ago, but the US blocked it with sanctions and pressure on the South Koreans. There is some reason to believe, however, that the South is ready to implement something along these lines over US objections. Possible meetings coming up between North and South leaders in Russia may give some indication of the feasibility of this.
Another would be that the US simply withdraws from South Korea and signs a peace treaty with the North.
Nuclear war is by no means inevitable, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

 

[Tigersman]

Nuclear wars inevidible asthe Fat boy from NK wants to show the world just how big his balls are. He has the same amount of brains as an ameba.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I think that we should say bad things about them on twitter.

 

[Hypoxia]

Nuclear wars inevidible asthe Fat boy from NK wants to show the world just how big his balls are. He has the same amount of brains as an ameba.

Idiots don't maintain dictatorships. He's smarter than you 'cause he runs a country and you don't. I PREDICT: In 2021 Kim will be in power and Tromp won't.

 

[jaF0]

Nuclear wars inevitable as the Orange Boy from NY wants to show the world just how big his balls are. He has the same amount of brains as an amoeba.

There, fixed that for ya'.

 

[jaF0]

There has to be a solution in all this....surely, we can't get into a nuke war?

I know, I know, don't call me Shirley....

Shirley, you know the Nuke Button was pushed by the w(R)ongs last November, right?

 

[DeYaKen]

Follow the Money

Shirley, you know the Nuke Button was pushed by the w(R)ongs last November, right?

You want to know who is ramping up the rhetoric? Follow the Money. What arms deals have been agreed since it all started. Wars only happen when there is money to be made.

In Britain we don't need to worry. London is seen as The place for property investment. Most of it is owned by Russians, Chinese, and Americans. No one is going to attack us because if they do they wipe out their own investments. You don't need nuclear weapons you need estate agents.

 

[jaF0]

Follow the Money. What arms deals have been agreed since it all started. Wars only happen when there is money to be made.

Just ask Dick Cheney.

 

[Beco]

You want to know who is ramping up the rhetoric? Follow the Money. What arms deals have been agreed since it all started. Wars only happen when there is money to be made.

In Britain we don't need to worry. London is seen as The place for property investment. Most of it is owned by Russians, Chinese, and Americans. No one is going to attack us because if they do they wipe out their own investments. You don't need nuclear weapons you need estate agents.

I think London is seen as Mecca #2, a massively high percentage of Muslims living in the UK.

 

[srgreene]

There has to be a solution in all this....surely, we can't get into a nuke war?
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What makes you think there "has to be a solution"?

I think, with WMDs getting into the hands of unstable, murderous regimes, the probability of them being used in war is a near certainty. The USA should do whatever is necessary to see that they do not have nuclear weapons, and previous efforts using diplomacy have been an abysmal failure.

 

[Beco]

What makes you think there "has to be a solution"?

I think, with WMDs getting into the hands of unstable, murderous regimes, the probability of them being used in war is a near certainty.

What's really scary is the potential for North Korea selling off its nuclear weapons to various crazies around the world...

 

[srgreene]

Wars only happen when there is money to be made.

A remarkably shallow view on the impulse toward war. About what I would expect of this person.

 

[srgreene]

If you're talking about Korea, there are several solutions on the table, and have been for many years. The US has rejected all of them.One is the Nork proposal that they will halt nuclear and missile development if the US and ROK stop holding military exercises .

I do not believe that is a serious proposal. Moreover, war games are a standard part of all nations military postures.

Why you have such confidence int e alleged proposals of a despotic, murderous regime with a long track record of violating its agreements is a puzzle to me.

 

[Beco]

I agree with Maria Chappelle-Nadal, except, go after the kid, Kim Jong-un....

 

[DrDelirium]

I do not believe that is a serious proposal. Moreover, war games are a standard part of all nations military postures.

Why you have such confidence int e alleged proposals of a despotic, murderous regime with a long track record of violating its agreements is a puzzle to me.

I don't. I think that any agreement with the United States has to be undertaken with great caution and considerable material safeguards. Trust but verify.

The fact that there is a North Korea, btw, instead of a unified People's Republic of Korea, is due to the fact that the Soviet Union kept the agreements it made with the US and Yalta and Potsdam, but the US did not. The Soviets could easily have occupied the whole peninsula before the US put a single boot on the ground, but they chose to honor their promises. The US killed a third of the North Korean population in support of a fascist puppet regime in the south that had no legitimacy either in terms of popular support or the agreed upon framework for post-war Korea. This is the context in which North Koreans view 'agreements' with the US.
As for war games being standard, I will simply note that the US routinely conducts major war games on the borders of countries thousands of miles from its shores, but claims to feel threatened when those same countries conduct exercises within their own borders. The US has threatened war with North Korea many times, and has conducted economic warfare against NK both through sanctions and through timing its military maneuvers during harvest season when NK needs manpower in the agricultural sector instead of under arms. Yet, despite an arsenal of thousands of nukes and the biggest conventional force in the world, the US feels threatened by the Norks testing missiles thousands of miles from the United States itself.
So far, the only country the North Koreans have 'invaded' has been their own- if we go by the most generous standard the American Civil War. In the meantime, the US has invaded Vietnam, Cambodia, Panama, Grenada, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Somalia, to name only those with American boots on the ground; bombed Libya, dismembered Yugoslavia, used proxies to overthrow governments all over Latin America, SE Asia and South Asia, and attempted the same even more times. If the US had kept its agreements with Russia at the end of the Cold War, there would be eleven fewer NATO countries now.
No sense even talking about US agreements with Native Americans.

 

[DeYaKen]

I think London is seen as Mecca #2, a massively high percentage of Muslims living in the UK.

Approximately 10% of the population. I suppose compared to the USA's 1% it might seem big but it's hardly massive.

 

[DeYaKen]

A remarkably shallow view on the impulse toward war. About what I would expect of this person.

Not shallow at all. Read J.K.Gailbraith on the subject of why the Vietnam war came to an end. The U.S. Military was so overstocked with arms ammunition and equipment that they stopped buying more. Suddenly it was more profitable to be on the side of public opinion. QED