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Victims of Soviet genocide Mass murder of a type never before seen in human history was carried out in Russia by the Soviet government from 1917 until roughly 1953. That was the world's first modern holocaust, i.e. the systematic murder of millions of people by a government. The Soviet holocaust began years before the Nazis committed their holocaust [1].
After communists created the Soviet Union, they murdered or oppressed anyone who opposed them, or might oppose them in the future. The result was a 36-year campaign of bloodshed and mayhem. The people who ran the Soviet Union were felons who were not elected to power. Many of them had been wanted by the law, or had served time in jail, before they achieved their positions of authority. [Given that fact, it seems odd that anyone would consider the Soviet Union to be a valid entity. Yet American president Franklin Roosevelt did, as did various Western celebrities].
At least twenty million Russian citizens were murdered in the Soviet holocaust, and many more than that were imprisoned and/or tortured in some way. Many of the people who were murdered or oppressed were politically conservative or moderate Russians who simply opposed Soviet communism. But some of the people who were killed by the Soviets were political leftists who, for certain reasons, opposed the Soviet government, or, were seen as a political threat to the government.
Most of the murders committed during the Soviet holocaust were committed by people who were racially/ethnically Jewish [in fact, Jews, via their political activism, built the Soviet Union]. Granted, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was not a Jew, and his predecessor Vladimir Lenin was only part-Jewish [however both were married to Jews]. But most of the top people who served in the Soviet government under both Stalin and Lenin were Jewish, and their names are well-known to many historians - for example Leon Trotsky, Lazar Kaganovich, Lev Kamenev, Genrikh Yagoda, Nikolai Yezhov [2].
The Soviet holocaust is rarely mentioned in the West today. And when it is mentioned, it isn't referred to as a holocaust. The reason for that is because public mention of that holocaust - and calling it a holocaust - would cause the Nazi-committed holocaust to be significantly overshadowed. Such overshadowing would have major political, racial and financial consequences, not just for the Jews but for other people as well.
Let's look at the types of murders that were committed by the Soviet government during the 20th century's first mass murder event:
1. Death by gunshot: millions of innocent Russian citizens were rounded up, jailed in various detention centers, and then shot in the back of the head - right where the head meets the neck. That type of 'neck shot' was a Soviet specialty, and is described Here.
2. Death by famine: in the Ukraine, the Soviet government created a famine by seizing livestock, crops, grain and other necessities from the citizens. Any citizen who resisted the governmental food or livestock mandates was usually shot. Desperate Ukrainian citizens ate anything to try to survive the famine: bugs, grass, even leather shoes. At least seven million people starved to death in the Ukrainian famine that began in 1932. The Jewish commissar L. Kaganovich oversaw that famine. There was another Soviet-produced famine in the Volga region of Russia beginning in 1921, in which up to
5,000,000 people died. Both famines were carefully planned by the Soviet government [3].
3. Death by gulag: Russian citizens were rounded up by the millions and put into Soviet forced-labor camps called gulags. Many gulag prisoners died from over-work, malnourishment or disease. Prisoners were also abused - for example, some were forced to eat human feces. Other were routinely beaten or left in freezing temperatures. A prisoner who was unable to reach quota - i.e. perform a set amount of work per day - was deprived of food or other necessities, which often led to the prisoner's death. The gulags were usually located in very remote areas of Russia, meaning that even if a prisoner managed to escape, he would probably not reach a populated area and would then die from exposure to the elements.
Unlike the victims of the later, Nazi-committed holocaust, the victims of the Soviet holocaust were mostly innocent citizens. They had usually done nothing wrong. They had merely opposed communism's aims. Or, perhaps they had instead committed the "crime" of owning a nice house, or land. Hitler's victims, on the other hand, were mostly communists, anarchists, ultra-liberals, gypsies, homosexuals or common criminals - in other words, they weren't exactly the cream of society. The distinction between the types of victims in those two holocausts is noteworthy.
Victims of Soviet genocide Interestingly, apart from the Soviet government, Jews also dominated many Eastern European communist governments [4], and as such they oversaw what might be referred to as micro-holocausts, i.e. the murder, torture and jailing of scores of other innocent citizens, most of them gentiles as well.
Some Jews might make excuses for the Soviet holocaust. They might say that the Jews in Russia were only responding to anti-Semitism when they carried it out. But that's a weak excuse. Murdering 20 million people and enslaving millions more for decades is not an appropriate response to a social feature that was caused by Jewish behavior in the first place. Other Jews might say that the Soviet holocaust was not a 'real' holocaust. But of course it was: certain people were methodically murdered over a long period of time. Certain people were selected for persecution. Actually, Hitler's holocaust - which was in many ways a response to the Soviet holocaust - could possibly be described as having been more humane than the first holocaust. After all, Hitler gave his victims many opportunities to flee Europe during the 1930s - and many did. Hitler even planned to send Jews to Madagascar, until WWII made that idea unfeasible. But the Soviets didn't give their victims a chance to flee Russia.
A sad footnote to the genocide committed in the Soviet state is that no major Soviet officials were ever legally charged with committing murder, even after the fall of the Soviet Union. Kaganovich, Stalin's right-hand man and the most important figure in the Soviet holocaust after Stalin himself, died of old age in 1991 without ever facing criminal charges. Yet Nazi 'war criminals' were executed by the allies even when they did not commit any murders, for example the publisher Julius Streicher, who was executed solely for what he printed. A similar example is German navy admiral Karl Doenitz, who was jailed for 10 years after WWII for the "crime" of commanding Germany's navy during the war.
Let the world begin to learn that there was a holocaust before the Holocaust [it's usually spelled with a capital "H" now]. The first holocaust claimed more innocents and lasted far longer than the Nazi-committed murder event [5]. The first holocaust's perpetrators were mostly Jewish and their victims were mostly gentiles who merely said "no" to a hateful Jewish idea called communism [6].
[1] the number of people killed by the Nazis in the Holocaust is nowhere near 6 million -- the actual number is more likely about 3 million, with the causes of the deaths of those people being shooting, disease and starvation in concentration camps. There is hardly any evidence to back the claim that concentration camp inmates were "gassed" by the Nazis. Empty containers which may have held cyanide-producing pellets - which were apparently found at German concentration camps by the allies after WWII - prove nothing, since such pellets were used throughout Europe long before WWII in pest-control fumigation.
[2] there are three standard Jewish answers to the charge that Jews committed genocide in the Soviet Union: a) "Stalin wasn't a Jew"; b) "Stalin was an anti-Semite" [maybe that's why he married a Jew]; and c) "you're an anti-Semite." Jewish denial of the role that Jews played in the Soviet holocaust is rather revealing of the mentality of the Jewish community in general.
[3] some eyewitness accounts of the Soviet-produced famine.
http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1986/518615.shtml
[4] Jewish-dominated Eastern European communist countries included Poland, Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Bulgaria.
[5] the Nazis did not attempt to end the Jewish race in Europe, since the victims of the Nazis included many types of people besides Jews. Had the Nazis wanted to focus solely on the Jews, they would have.
[6] the Jewish political activist Karl Marx is the godfather of communism. The ideology of communism was spread throughout Europe by activists who were usually Jewish, e.g. Karl Radek in Germany and Bela Kun in Hungary.
After communists created the Soviet Union, they murdered or oppressed anyone who opposed them, or might oppose them in the future. The result was a 36-year campaign of bloodshed and mayhem. The people who ran the Soviet Union were felons who were not elected to power. Many of them had been wanted by the law, or had served time in jail, before they achieved their positions of authority. [Given that fact, it seems odd that anyone would consider the Soviet Union to be a valid entity. Yet American president Franklin Roosevelt did, as did various Western celebrities].
At least twenty million Russian citizens were murdered in the Soviet holocaust, and many more than that were imprisoned and/or tortured in some way. Many of the people who were murdered or oppressed were politically conservative or moderate Russians who simply opposed Soviet communism. But some of the people who were killed by the Soviets were political leftists who, for certain reasons, opposed the Soviet government, or, were seen as a political threat to the government.
Most of the murders committed during the Soviet holocaust were committed by people who were racially/ethnically Jewish [in fact, Jews, via their political activism, built the Soviet Union]. Granted, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was not a Jew, and his predecessor Vladimir Lenin was only part-Jewish [however both were married to Jews]. But most of the top people who served in the Soviet government under both Stalin and Lenin were Jewish, and their names are well-known to many historians - for example Leon Trotsky, Lazar Kaganovich, Lev Kamenev, Genrikh Yagoda, Nikolai Yezhov [2].
The Soviet holocaust is rarely mentioned in the West today. And when it is mentioned, it isn't referred to as a holocaust. The reason for that is because public mention of that holocaust - and calling it a holocaust - would cause the Nazi-committed holocaust to be significantly overshadowed. Such overshadowing would have major political, racial and financial consequences, not just for the Jews but for other people as well.
Let's look at the types of murders that were committed by the Soviet government during the 20th century's first mass murder event:
1. Death by gunshot: millions of innocent Russian citizens were rounded up, jailed in various detention centers, and then shot in the back of the head - right where the head meets the neck. That type of 'neck shot' was a Soviet specialty, and is described Here.
2. Death by famine: in the Ukraine, the Soviet government created a famine by seizing livestock, crops, grain and other necessities from the citizens. Any citizen who resisted the governmental food or livestock mandates was usually shot. Desperate Ukrainian citizens ate anything to try to survive the famine: bugs, grass, even leather shoes. At least seven million people starved to death in the Ukrainian famine that began in 1932. The Jewish commissar L. Kaganovich oversaw that famine. There was another Soviet-produced famine in the Volga region of Russia beginning in 1921, in which up to
5,000,000 people died. Both famines were carefully planned by the Soviet government [3].
3. Death by gulag: Russian citizens were rounded up by the millions and put into Soviet forced-labor camps called gulags. Many gulag prisoners died from over-work, malnourishment or disease. Prisoners were also abused - for example, some were forced to eat human feces. Other were routinely beaten or left in freezing temperatures. A prisoner who was unable to reach quota - i.e. perform a set amount of work per day - was deprived of food or other necessities, which often led to the prisoner's death. The gulags were usually located in very remote areas of Russia, meaning that even if a prisoner managed to escape, he would probably not reach a populated area and would then die from exposure to the elements.
Unlike the victims of the later, Nazi-committed holocaust, the victims of the Soviet holocaust were mostly innocent citizens. They had usually done nothing wrong. They had merely opposed communism's aims. Or, perhaps they had instead committed the "crime" of owning a nice house, or land. Hitler's victims, on the other hand, were mostly communists, anarchists, ultra-liberals, gypsies, homosexuals or common criminals - in other words, they weren't exactly the cream of society. The distinction between the types of victims in those two holocausts is noteworthy.
Victims of Soviet genocide Interestingly, apart from the Soviet government, Jews also dominated many Eastern European communist governments [4], and as such they oversaw what might be referred to as micro-holocausts, i.e. the murder, torture and jailing of scores of other innocent citizens, most of them gentiles as well.
Some Jews might make excuses for the Soviet holocaust. They might say that the Jews in Russia were only responding to anti-Semitism when they carried it out. But that's a weak excuse. Murdering 20 million people and enslaving millions more for decades is not an appropriate response to a social feature that was caused by Jewish behavior in the first place. Other Jews might say that the Soviet holocaust was not a 'real' holocaust. But of course it was: certain people were methodically murdered over a long period of time. Certain people were selected for persecution. Actually, Hitler's holocaust - which was in many ways a response to the Soviet holocaust - could possibly be described as having been more humane than the first holocaust. After all, Hitler gave his victims many opportunities to flee Europe during the 1930s - and many did. Hitler even planned to send Jews to Madagascar, until WWII made that idea unfeasible. But the Soviets didn't give their victims a chance to flee Russia.
A sad footnote to the genocide committed in the Soviet state is that no major Soviet officials were ever legally charged with committing murder, even after the fall of the Soviet Union. Kaganovich, Stalin's right-hand man and the most important figure in the Soviet holocaust after Stalin himself, died of old age in 1991 without ever facing criminal charges. Yet Nazi 'war criminals' were executed by the allies even when they did not commit any murders, for example the publisher Julius Streicher, who was executed solely for what he printed. A similar example is German navy admiral Karl Doenitz, who was jailed for 10 years after WWII for the "crime" of commanding Germany's navy during the war.
Let the world begin to learn that there was a holocaust before the Holocaust [it's usually spelled with a capital "H" now]. The first holocaust claimed more innocents and lasted far longer than the Nazi-committed murder event [5]. The first holocaust's perpetrators were mostly Jewish and their victims were mostly gentiles who merely said "no" to a hateful Jewish idea called communism [6].
[1] the number of people killed by the Nazis in the Holocaust is nowhere near 6 million -- the actual number is more likely about 3 million, with the causes of the deaths of those people being shooting, disease and starvation in concentration camps. There is hardly any evidence to back the claim that concentration camp inmates were "gassed" by the Nazis. Empty containers which may have held cyanide-producing pellets - which were apparently found at German concentration camps by the allies after WWII - prove nothing, since such pellets were used throughout Europe long before WWII in pest-control fumigation.
[2] there are three standard Jewish answers to the charge that Jews committed genocide in the Soviet Union: a) "Stalin wasn't a Jew"; b) "Stalin was an anti-Semite" [maybe that's why he married a Jew]; and c) "you're an anti-Semite." Jewish denial of the role that Jews played in the Soviet holocaust is rather revealing of the mentality of the Jewish community in general.
[3] some eyewitness accounts of the Soviet-produced famine.
http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1986/518615.shtml
[4] Jewish-dominated Eastern European communist countries included Poland, Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Bulgaria.
[5] the Nazis did not attempt to end the Jewish race in Europe, since the victims of the Nazis included many types of people besides Jews. Had the Nazis wanted to focus solely on the Jews, they would have.
[6] the Jewish political activist Karl Marx is the godfather of communism. The ideology of communism was spread throughout Europe by activists who were usually Jewish, e.g. Karl Radek in Germany and Bela Kun in Hungary.
