Moderation

[Lancecastor]

Are You a Mod, or Are You a Rocker?

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[RisiaSkye]

Here's the apparent problem: poor reading comprehension, combined with ambiguous wording. The first part of the quoted material was to announce that cym has vacated the post of Moderator, despite the fact that the name hasn't come down yet. The rest of her Lit interaction is not mentioned, nor did I intend for it to be inferred. The "politics" you cite are not what I was trying to communicate, nor is that claim particularly relevant.

The ghost mods issues has been discussed before, and as some may have noticed, has even been used for official "Mod" duties when possible. However, the invidual moderators are named by the site--there isn't a "ghost Mod" function per se, at least not one that would be useful for this board. So, we work with what we have.

The bottom line, Lance, is that you have no say over what Moderators do or don't do. If you have a problem with a Moderator or their/our actions, I suggest you either take it up directly with the Moderators in question, or take it to the site administration for resolution.

I would also suggest, and this goes for everyone, that a substantial dose of paranoia seems to infest people's assessment of what it is that Moderators do around here. Paranoia isn't inflicted upon you, but created from within. So, what's up with that?

 

[Persephone36]

The bottom line, Lance, is that you have no say over what Moderators do or don't do. If you have a problem with a Moderator or their/our actions, I suggest you either take it up directly with Moderators, or take it to the site administration for resolution.

I'm going to speak up here as a new visitor to this board, although a frequent contributor to the gb.

I have seen Lance bring up this issue continually in the last week -- going on about it ad naseum IMHO -- and everytime he has been told to take his issues to the site administrators.

My question is now for Lance. What part of that answer that you keep getting do you not understand? I think it's clear -- very clear -- that the moderators DO NOT have a say over the limits of their authority. The site administration does.

Once again, what about this issue do you not understand? Or do you feel that if you clutter up this board with bringing up this issue time and time and time again that your suggestions will suddenly be adopted? Go to the site administrators if you want your ideas considered. This isn't a democracy. If you want a different kind of board -- then make it up yourself for god's sake and stop boring the rest of us to death.

In my opinion, this subject DOES not merit dispassionate discussion. It is simply annoying.

 

[Lancecastor]

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[RisiaSkye]

We have discussed Mod rules and duties ad nauseum. I grow weary of the endless rounds of what I personally, speaking only for myself perceive as paranoid fear and active (if feeble) attempts at power-mongering among some board users. So, I'm not going to play anymore.

Those of you with questions about Moderation should either PM us (JB & myself), contact the site owners, or use the search function and dig up any of the four previous threads devoted to discussing this issue.

The "ghost Mod" schema isn't feasible other than for new posts and threads by Mods; it doesn't work for purposes of editing or moving posts & threads, as the site isn't set up that way. I hope that clarifies that issue.

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Regarding post editing, the following is cross posted from the "'nilla among you" thread:

Apples and oranges. Posts *can* be edited, in that there is an "edit" function on the Mod screen. However, they aren't edited unless they violate Forum rules--such as by posting personal information like names and email addresses. Content issues that boil down to "I don't like what they said" are not a Moderator issue unless the posts violate the basic rules. This lenience in content is given in respect to the host site (Literotica) Free Speech committment, and in response to lengthy diatribes in protest of removing unregistered troll posts less than a month ago.

Now, does *that* answer the question?

 

[MissTaken]

I suppose that if other posters feel a need to have an open discussion concerning moderation in general terms, they are free to do so. I don't feel a need to engage in this discussion as most of us have voiced our opinions privately or publicly, to mods or fellow posters.

If anyone wishes to know my views, pm me. I will respond in a productive, non threatening manner, as always.

For me, I have had enough of the issue and the ramifications in a public forum.

I am getting back to the business at hand, BDSM.

Anyone care to join me?

 

[Lancecastor]

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[Daddyslilpet]

I suppose that if other posters feel a need to have an open discussion concerning moderation in general terms, they are free to do so. I don't feel a need to engage in this discussion as most of us have voiced our opinions privately or publicly, to mods or fellow posters.

If anyone wishes to know my views, pm me. I will respond in a productive, non threatening manner, as always.

For me, I have had enough of the issue and the ramifications in a public forum.

I am getting back to the business at hand, BDSM.

Anyone care to join me?

I'm with you Miss T. This is growing tiresome at best.


Lance - this is what I got from the FAQ's section of Lit....

- What are Moderators?
Moderators are volunteers who help make the Bulletin Board more enjoyable by removing spam and answering questions. The names of the Moderators are listed next to the Forum which they moderate. If you have a question about a certain forum that has a Moderator, feel free to email that Moderator and he or she will do their best to make your time on the site fun!

There is your answer as to why they are listed at the top of the forum. This is from Laurel & Manu. Now would you please drop this and move on?

dixi

 

[caspai]

I live out my Lit life almost exclusively on srp. I have posted rarely on orp, and posted a thread here which was met with respect and honesty. Thank you all for that.

In the 11 months that I have been active on srp, I have lived through several wars, and have left a few times, only to be drawn back, either by friends or because I just missed the place too much.

I have read this board, and have seen the troubles that are going on here. I don't pretend to understand all of the things that are being fought over, but as a veteran of board wars on srp, I know that there are rarely any winners, only losers. Feelings get hurt, and people feel alienated. On srp there are a few groups of people who will have absolutely nothing to do with each other unless it is to fight. That is a reality, and we, who have chosen to stay, deal with it. We don't drag new people into the disagreements, at least I don't.

A reality of life is that you aren't going to please everyone all of the time. The best thing you can do is just act in a way that makes it so that you can face yourself in the mirror each morning, looking yourself straight in the eye.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: Nausea goes both ways.

Why would I go over their heads to the Owners?

Because this issue has been discussed and explained repeatedly, and apparently you are still not informed in the way which would satisfy you. Thus, you've been asked to take your questions to someone that might have more satisfying answers for you.

Our Mods are Participants who wrote a Sticky saying they believe in Openess & Inclusion....so of course I want to ask "What's the big deal? What's the secret here?" when they decline to explain how it is and by what authority they can make some posts & threads disappear and others not disappear!

Please see above for the most recent explanation of exactly these issues.

 

[Persephone36]

For me, I have had enough of the issue and the ramifications in a public forum.

I am getting back to the business at hand, BDSM.

Anyone care to join me?

Right there with MissTaken.

P.

 

[Lancecastor]

As always....

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[Lancecastor]

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[RisiaSkye]

Only if you tell me what the hell RTFM means.

 

[Lancecastor]

RTFM

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[Sandia]

Lance, here's my take on what the Moderators do here:





Pretty much nothing.

Their only real power is to delete or move posts. I've seen that done maybe once. And you may remember what happened then.

Otherwise it's an honorary position.

They are only the leaders or authorities to the extent you make them that.

My own perception is that the moderators here have been exceptionally immoderate in their approach to moderating here.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: RTFM

I should have Read The Fucking Manual.

Ah, gotcha. Never heard that one before.

And now that I have......: "Make this place fun for me, ModeratorWench! Prithee, fetch me some mead whilst I rent your garments!"

Not fucking likely, kiddo.

Sandia: my only knowledge of your having had a problem with Moderation was about a Mod who's no longer in the post. Is there something I'm missing here? From whence comes the apparent animosity?

 

[Lancecastor]

[I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[RisiaSkye]

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[WriterDom]

Being a Mod is a thankless job. Anything you do is going to set some people off. Not doing anything is going to set some people off. Rs is about the best there is.

I think the Mod talk should be shelved for a while.

But I do believe that the way the board is moderated should be a subject that can be opened for discussion.

and that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Lancecastor]

I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways.

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[P. B. Walker]

Ok... I'm not getting in the middle of this... cus I came late and ... well I don't give a shit about it. Having been a moderator in another type of forum I know there is no "winning".

But I gotta say this... some of Lance's references, taglines, and "sign offs" really have me laughing my ass off. Ya'll are probably hating him because he's making waves.. but ya gotta admit... he is funny.

And no I'm not kissing his ass... just saying I get a kick out of some of his posts.

Hopefully admitting this doesn't make me a target or cause people to dislike me. I really have no stand in this controversy. Think of me as Switzerland.... but I'm getting my kicks on the side. LOL.

Ciao bella.

PBW

 

[Lancecastor]

Ok... I'm not getting in the middle of this... cus I came late and ... well I don't give a shit about it. Having been a moderator in another type of forum I know there is no "winning".

But I gotta say this... some of Lance's references, taglines, and "sign offs" really have me laughing my ass off. Ya'll are probably hating him because he's making waves.. but ya gotta admit... he is funny.

And no I'm not kissing his ass... just saying I get a kick out of some of his posts.

Hopefully admitting this doesn't make me a target or cause people to dislike me. I really have no stand in this controversy. Think of me as Switzerland.... but I'm getting my kicks on the side. LOL.

Ciao bella.

PBW

You are now a target.

Repeat after me:

"I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways."

Lance "Stepford" Castor

 

[James Blandings]

Being a Mod is a thankless job. Anything you do is going to set some people off. Not doing anything is going to set some people off. Rs is about the best there is.

I think the Mod talk should be shelved for a while.

But I do believe that the way the board is moderated should be a subject that can be opened for discussion.

and that's all I have to say about that.

WD, I respect your opinion, particularly since you bring a unique perspective to this particular issue.
But I fail to see what is open for discussion here. Risia has made the issues quite clear, in my opinion. If people don't like the system, they need to either take it to Laurel and Manu, shrug it off and live with it, or find a site more to their liking. As you know, Risia and I do not decide how the Mod system here operates, and it is not up for a vote, so I fail to see the benefit of further discussion of that aspect of the issue. If I am missing something, I am perfectly willing to engage in reasoned discourse about it.
If someone has a personal complaint about how a particular moderator is behaving, that is another matter. But cym is gone and I know of no outstanding complaints against either Risia or myself, and if someone does have a problem, I would hope they would bring it to us and give us a chance to explain ourselves before they would make a public issue out of it.

 

[WriterDom]

"I love the Moderators.

They are beautiful and wise in their ways."

Writer "Stepford" Dom