Mitt Romney is "pro-gun"?

[richard_daily]

Can someone please explain to me where this is coming from?


Senate in 1994:

"I don't line up with the NRA" on gun control.

Governer in 2002:

"I will not chip away at MA's tough gun laws".

"My positions won't make me the hero of the NRA"

Supported the Brady Bill.

"I would have signed the assault weapon ban that came to his desk. I said I would have supported that and signed a similar bill in our state. It was a bill worked out, by the way, between pro-gun lobby and anti-gun lobby individuals. Both sides of the issue came together and found a way to provide relaxation in licensing requirements and allow more people to--to have guns for their own legal purposes. So we signed that in Massachusetts, and I’d support that at the federal level."

~Mitt Romney




These are the words of a supposed "pro-gun" candidate?

 

[koalabear]

It has been observed that “politics ain’t bean bag” and when campaigns heat up, truth can lose out to exaggeration or worse. But some attacks on Gov. Romney during the GOP primaries struck those familiar with his record on gun and hunting issues as truly over the top. When Gov. Romney signed a 2004 bill titled “An Act Further Regulating Certain Weapons,” his critics erroneously cited this legislation as an assault weapons ban. As GOAL notes, with Massachusetts’ politics the titles of legislation do not always reflect the content, meaning this proposal was actually a pro-Second Amendment bill that began the process of reforming the state’s gun laws. Wallace points out that its passage represented a victory rather than a defeat for the state’s gun owners, “It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong in claiming the bill was an extension of the ‘assault weapon’ ban that had sunset at the federal level. They could not have been more wrong.”

http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php/14069/presidents-column-29/

 

[richard_daily]

It has been observed that “politics ain’t bean bag” and when campaigns heat up, truth can lose out to exaggeration or worse. But some attacks on Gov. Romney during the GOP primaries struck those familiar with his record on gun and hunting issues as truly over the top. When Gov. Romney signed a 2004 bill titled “An Act Further Regulating Certain Weapons,” his critics erroneously cited this legislation as an assault weapons ban. As GOAL notes, with Massachusetts’ politics the titles of legislation do not always reflect the content, meaning this proposal was actually a pro-Second Amendment bill that began the process of reforming the state’s gun laws. Wallace points out that its passage represented a victory rather than a defeat for the state’s gun owners, “It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong in claiming the bill was an extension of the ‘assault weapon’ ban that had sunset at the federal level. They could not have been more wrong.”

http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php/14069/presidents-column-29/

Perhaps you missed this quote, directly from the horse's mouth:

I would have signed the assault weapon ban that came to his desk. I said I would have supported that and signed a similar bill in our state. It was a bill worked out, by the way, between pro-gun lobby and anti-gun lobby individuals. Both sides of the issue came together and found a way to provide relaxation in licensing requirements and allow more people to--to have guns for their own legal purposes. So we signed that in Massachusetts, and I’d support that at the federal level.

 

[koalabear]

Perhaps you missed this quote, directly from the horse's mouth:

Looks like something a stupid lil fag Chihuahua posted.

 

[Bert Notorius]

My Dad could shoot the balls of a gnat and he was anti NRA. I understand the need for the NRA, just like the ACLU. He once voted for a democrat for governor on his gun stance...cringe.

 

[koalabear]

My Dad could shoot the balls of a gnat and he was anti NRA. I understand the need for the NRA, just like the ACLU. He once voted for a democrat for governor on his gun stance...cringe.

The NRA gave Harry Reid an A+ in his last run for office.

 

[richard_daily]

Looks like something a stupid lil fag Chihuahua posted.

Stick your head in the sand on it then...

Mitt Romney will support an "assault weapon" ban. He's said it in his own words, multiple times.

 

[koalabear]

Stick your head in the sand on it then...

Mitt Romney will support an "assault weapon" ban. He's said it in his own words, multiple times.

Keep your head up your ass, lil fag chihuahua.

 

[richard_daily]

My Dad could shoot the balls of a gnat and he was anti NRA. I understand the need for the NRA, just like the ACLU. He once voted for a democrat for governor on his gun stance...cringe.

Did your father also support an "assault weapon" ban?

Was he in favor of a 5 day waiting period?

If so, him and Romney line up on gun control.

 

[Wok]

Anything but Obama!

Rah rah.

 

[JohnnySavage]

All good points that should be in the 'say something positive about Romney' thread.

 

[richard_daily]

All good points that should be in the 'say something positive about Romney' thread.

I don't believe that they're positive.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I don't believe that they're positive.

I grew up with guns. Lots and lots of guns. They were tools just like a hammer and nails. And, they are still that out in the country. Here, in the urbanized areas though they are crutches for cowards to force their will on others, and instruments for scardy cats to have a false sense of security.

Everyday on the news here, some innocent person is shot and killed by some asshole with a gun. We need to re-visit the second amendment. Maybe go back to it's original intent and let everyone have a flint-lock.

 

[Bert Notorius]

Did your father also support an "assault weapon" ban?

Was he in favor of a 5 day waiting period?

If so, him and Romney line up on gun control.

No.

1. He laughed constantly over what the left thought an assault weapon really was.
2. He had all the guns he needed and didn't have to wait.
3. Guns will eventually go away when the phaser is invented.

Only an idiot doesn't get the socialistic stance on gun ownership.

 

[koalabear]

In 1996, State Senator Obama answered a questionnaire and stated that he supported a complete ban on semi-automatic firearms inaccurately referred to as "assault weapons", supported mandatory waiting periods, and supported a complete ban on manufacture and sale of handguns. Claims by Senator Obama that a staffer filed out the form were debunked by media outlets. Those same objectives were supported by State Senator Obama in a 1998 political awareness test. During a 2004 debate for the US Senate seat, Barack Obama mocked his opponent for not supporting a ban on "assault weapons" which he said had only one purpose: to kill people.

 

[Adre]

Anti gun and anti beer, yet the Lit wingnuts love him. Go figure.

 

[koalabear]

Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:

Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

December 13, 1999
Proposes Banning Gun Stores Within 5 mi. of Schools & Parks

In other words, he pretty much wanted to ban gun stores. Five miles from a school is pretty much exiling gun stores to the rural hinterlands, outside of most city limits.

January 1, 2000
Co-sponsors Bill to Limit Firearm Purchases to One Gun a Month

Obama also cosponsored legislation to limit handgun purchases to one per month. He also voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, and stated his support for the District of Columbia’s handgun ban that was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2008. He also called it a “scandal” that President George W. Bush did not authorize a renewal of the failed Clinton semi-automatic rifle and magazine ban.

March 13, 2003 (1 of 1)
Votes to Ban Hundreds of Common Rifles & Shotguns

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Prohibits the knowing manufacture, delivery, and possession of semiautomatic assault weapons, large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and assault weapon attachments.

Yep, pro-gun Obama

 

[koalabear]

March 25, 2004
Votes Against Lowering FOID Card Age From 21 to 18

Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004, SB 2163, vote 18.

Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Changes, from 21 years of age or over to 18 years of age or over, the age at which a person may apply for and be issued a Firearm Owner's Identification Card without the consent of a parent or legal guardian. Effective immediately.

The embassy guards must have been under 21.

 

[Adre]

How many guns has Obama taken away from you or anyone you know? Thought so.

 

[Bert Notorius]

How many guns has Obama taken away from you or anyone you know? Thought so.

How many has he put in the hands of Mexican drug terrorists?

 

[koalabear]

Yep, pro-gun Obama.....

March 25, 2004
Votes to Uphold Prosecution of People Using Guns in Self-Defense

Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that it is an affirmative defense to a violation of a municipal ordinance that prohibits, regulates, or restricts the private ownership of firearms if the individual who is charged with the violation used the firearm in an act of self-defense or defense of another. Effective immediately.

 

[koalabear]

Romney, nope, Oblamer.

July 30, 2005
Votes to Ban Common Rifle Ammunition

Voted against a 2005 law prohibiting frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers stemming from acts committed by others using their products. Calls for permanently reinstating the failed Clinton "assault weapons" ban. Voted for 2005 amendment that would ban virtually all rifle ammunition, if it can be used in a handgun and is capable of penetrating soft body armor typically worn by law enforcement. Since all rifle ammunition will pierce soft armor worn by law enforcement, this amendment would have effectively banned all rifle ammunition used by hunters and target shooters.

 

[richard_daily]

I grew up with guns. Lots and lots of guns. They were tools just like a hammer and nails. And, they are still that out in the country. Here, in the urbanized areas though they are crutches for cowards to force their will on others, and instruments for scardy cats to have a false sense of security.

Everyday on the news here, some innocent person is shot and killed by some asshole with a gun. We need to re-visit the second amendment. Maybe go back to it's original intent and let everyone have a flint-lock.

As long as that's all we're allowing our military and police to have, then fine... Otherwise, I'd have to disagree completely.

 

[Adre]

How many has he put in the hands of Mexican drug terrorists?

Tell me. And provide source.

 

[koalabear]

September 22, 2005
Votes Against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice

Obama has said he would not have nominated Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court. It was Justice Scalia who wrote the majority opinion in D.C. v. Heller, which declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms, and that D.C.’s handgun ban is unconstitutional. Justice Thomas joined in that opinion. As a member of the U.S. Senate, Mr. Obama also voted against confirming Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, both of whom joined Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in Heller.