Minutemen Project your thoughts

[alphanav1]

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What does everyone think of these Minutemen?

I personally believe they are racist who do not want anyone but Europeans in the US. It is also an insult that they are using the term Minutemen. The true Minutemen of the American Revolution, fought to allow a country for all people to find freedom and success.(With a few expectations)

 

[marshalt]

I think we need them along the canadian border as well.

 

[Matthew Craig]

Are they in any way related to the Linear Men at Vanishing Point?

 

[luxey313]

What does everyone think of these Minutemen?

I personally believe they are racist who do not want anyone but Europeans in the US. It is also an insult that they are using the term Minutemen. The true Minutemen of the American Revolution, fought to allow a country for all people to find freedom and success.(With a few expectations)

Have you ever been to America?
Seen the migrant population? It is ridiculous.
I can not cross the border in Mexico and get welfare, medicare, and a job.

These people who cross illegally are partially the reason why it is so expensive and such a pain in the ass process to get a greencard in the U.S.

 

[alphanav1]

Have you ever been to America?
Seen the migrant population? It is ridiculous.
I can not cross the border in Mexico and get welfare, medicare, and a job.

These people who cross illegally are partially the reason why it is so expensive and such a pain in the ass process to get a greencard in the U.S.

I live in the US. I was born in the southeast. I went to Miami once when my dad lived there a year or two, huge Hispanic population, I got along fine with his neighbors. I played with their kids. Hell I never left the US, much to my sadness. I want to go to Australia or Europe before I am out of college. I am going to the Bahamas this summer, so that will be the first time I leave the continental United States. I’ll be 21 when we leave, 21 years in the United States, so yea I been to America.

 

[Lee Chambers]

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What does everyone think of these Minutemen?

I personally believe they are racist who do not want anyone but Europeans in the US. It is also an insult that they are using the term Minutemen. The true Minutemen of the American Revolution, fought to allow a country for all people to find freedom and success.(With a few expectations)

First off, I read both storys all the way through and there is nothing in there to suggest any manner of racism at all.

Secondly, this group is, at the moment, peacefully protesting. Unless you've find or eventually find something else to the contrary, no one has been hurt by these patrols. The story said one immigrant who was caught was even given food and water, which I think is damn humanitarian of a group who could just have easily shot the guy and buried him in the desert.

People have this very naive illusion about immigrants. I've run through this discussion on other message boards and after doing some research and looking at links provided by other people, I discovered that not every immigrant is looking for a job to raise money for their family back home.

Ever heard of Kris Eggle? If you ask one of those Minutemen, I'll be they could tell you who he is.

A National Park Rangers' Finest Hour

I saw a special on 20/20 I believe that talked about the Minutemen. They took the reporter to a known rest area that immigrants will stop at to rest before moving on to cross the border. The place was an absolute mess, with food garbage, water bottles, clothing, abandoned blankets and sleeping bags and many other things strewn about.

I have no problem with people wanting to come into this country. The problem I have is with people who want to enter ILLEGALLY. Because in the end that's what this boils down to. THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW.

Unless you can come up with a compelling argument against this group, I think they're doing a good thing.

 

[Bent]

If the guy can only last a minute...

 

[p_p_man]

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What does everyone think of these Minutemen?

Heard a pogramme about them the other day. The Border Patrol don't want them there because they keep tripping the sensors which are hidden all along the border; the local residents don't want them there because despite their protestations about being mere observers many of them carry legal guns and Bush doesn't want them their because he considers them vigilantes.

What do I think about them? I can understand them making a political point by being there and raising the issue of illegal immigration further up the political agenda but carrying guns, using planes and hi-tec equipment carries it a bit further than that.

All it needs is one trigger happy fool to set off a possible bloodbath. I reckon they'll eventually lose interest but the best thing is if they all go home in two weeks time with honour satisfied...and hopefully with no harm done.

ppman

 

[Lee Chambers]

Heard a pogramme about them the other day. The Border Patrol don't want them there because they keep tripping the sensors which are hidden all along the border; the local residents don't want them there because despite their protestations about being mere observers many of them carry legal guns and Bush doesn't want them their because he considers them vigilantes.

What do I think about them? I can understand them making a political point by being there and raising the issue of illegal immigration further up the political agenda but carrying guns, using planes and hi-tec equipment carries it a bit further than that.

All it needs is one trigger happy fool to set off a possible bloodbath. I reckon they'll eventually lose interest but the best thing is if they all go home in two weeks time with honour satisfied...and hopefully with no harm done.

ppman

I agree with your last statement. The last thing I would want to see is a story about vigilantes killing immigrants. We saw enough of that just after 9/11. At that point it's like "Good job, you've just pissed off the entire fucking world, including America."

I still agree with what they're doing, but I also hope no one on either side gets injured in the process.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Didn't take very long for these very minute men to screw up.

Humiliatin' the "prisoner", but no laws broken

 

[islandman]

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

~Emma Lazarus


While the application of Lazarus' words is no longer feasible given today's America, with our inability to take proper care of our own citizenry, the sentiment should still burn bright in the hearts of every American. Self-styled vigilanties, a concept as repugnant to me as Bush's Patriot Act, defile this ideal and tarnishes the sacrifice of true Minutemen.

 

[RobDownSouth]

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People have this very naive illusion about immigrants. I've run through this discussion on other message boards and after doing some research and looking at links provided by other people, I discovered that not every immigrant is looking for a job to raise money for their family back home.
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So, exactly what are you insinuating here?

Are they after our white women?

They aren't after our white women, are they?

 

[alphanav1]

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

~Emma Lazarus


While the application of Lazarus' words is no longer feasible given today's America, with our inability to take proper care of our own citizenry, the sentiment should still burn bright in the hearts of every American. Self-styled vigilanties, a concept as repugnant to me as Bush's Patriot Act, defile this ideal and tarnishes the sacrifice of true Minutemen.

I like to believe that we as Americans are past racism and caring about someone’s national origin. I know better than that, my dad is a prime example. If Europeans were immigrating to the US in the number Hispanics are, there would be little fuss.

Thank you for the quote, I wanted to post it along with the two articles.

PS Rob can you change your Av it upsets me every time I see it.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Have you ever been to America?
Seen the migrant population? It is ridiculous.
I can not cross the border in Mexico and get welfare, medicare, and a job.

These people who cross illegally are partially the reason why it is so expensive and such a pain in the ass process to get a greencard in the U.S.

On one hand it is inevitable that without tens of thousands of Minutemen, we're going to get a hispanic Al Qaeda terrorist group coming in from south of the border. And they're going to sneak in and fuck us up. That's inevitable.

On the other hand, these vigilantes are clearly racist and will cause more problems than they solve. That will be apparent in the immediate short term. In the long term they'll seriously frustrate and even defame real meaningful efforts to secure our borders.

 

[Satangela]

At first I read the title as "Minutemen project your thoughts..." like some kind of telepathy tinfoil thing...

 

[The Heretic]

I think it's a great idea - those guys down there tripping over each other and setting off the sensors. This way they'll really screw up the Border Patrol and the INS, more immigrants will get in and those immigrants will be able to share in our success - if just a little.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Racist? Maybe. Realistic? Certainly. They should be deputized and allowed to make the Mexicans go back. It's a damn shame that we have willing volunteers willing to guard the borders who aren't being allowed to do so. They don't have the authority to detain any of the illegals, and that's a problem.

 

[breakwall]

I think we need them along the canadian border as well.

I agree. I am fucking sick and tired of Gringos coming into my country stealing all my jobs.

 

[Ishmael]

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What does everyone think of these Minutemen?

I personally believe they are racist who do not want anyone but Europeans in the US. It is also an insult that they are using the term Minutemen. The true Minutemen of the American Revolution, fought to allow a country for all people to find freedom and success.(With a few expectations)

I think you're a fucking idiot. You obviously don't have a clue as to what it's all about.

Ishmael

 

[NonSexWithHer]

Doesn't look overtly racist but it does look stupid.

If we wanted to stop immigrants from coming into the U.S. we would.

But we don't because we need people to pick our crops for super cheap wages and not ask for health care or a retirement plan.

 

[linuxgeek]

I have no problem with legal immigrants. I feel illegal immigrants should be shipped back to their country of origin as soon as they are discovered. If they cannot enter the country legally, there must be a reason.

While enlisting civilains to help secure the US/Mexico boarder puts more bodies in the field, I have to wonder about what kind of person would volunteer for such duty.

 

[Ishmael]

I have no problem with legal immigrants. I feel illegal immigrants should be shipped back to their country of origin as soon as they are discovered. If they cannot enter the country legally, there must be a reason.

While enlisting civilains to help secure the US/Mexico boarder puts more bodies in the field, I have to wonder about what kind of person would volunteer for such duty.

I suspect they're people that are pretty much fed up linux.

Forget the burden they place on the medical facilities and the schools. Let's start with crime. According to some reports 95% of ALL outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles are against illegal aliens.

In the case of the Mexican nationals it's an invasion being aided and abetted by the Mexican government. (Bone up on Spanish and google Azteca for some interesting reading.)

A great many of the minutemen, according to some reports, are retired military.

Illegal is illegal, I have no idea why that fact doesn't register with some people.

Ishmael

 

[Hester]

here's a local news video outing these guys on how they are censoring what they are letting the media know and that the organizers are having a lot of trouble controlling the extremists.

http://www.kpho.com/Global/category.asp?C=21843&nav=23KtYPJc

Click on "minuteman project undercover"

unfortunately, you have to sit through a short promotional clip first.

 

[linuxgeek]

Illegal is illegal, I have no idea why that fact doesn't register with some people.

Ishmael

Yup... if they have to sneak or be smuggled over the border, they have no right to be here. They don't deserve any rights or privileges the people legally here receive.

I feel this should be true for any country, not just the US. Someone sneaks across the Mexican or Canadian borders from the US, they should ship them back. There is a border for a reason.

 

[Ishmael]

Yup... if they have to sneak or be smuggled over the border, they have no right to be here. They don't deserve any rights or privileges the people legally here receive.

I feel this should be true for any country, not just the US. Someone sneaks across the Mexican or Canadian borders from the US, they should ship them back. There is a border for a reason.

They do, if you get caught conducting business in Mexico without the proper permits you will be sent back. In some cases after your jail sentence has been served.

Ishmael