Minimum age for being in Porn should be 21 or older...

[LMWM321]

I’m not expecting this thread to garner many likes, but here goes..

I don’t think young women should be allowed to be in porn until they are AT LEAST 21. The argument for disallowing the purchase of cigarettes, or alcohol until age 21 is that young peoples’ brains are not fully developed so they may not fully understand the implications of smoking and drinking. Well, I say the same can be said of being in Porn.

Right or wrong (it’s wrong of course) once a woman has appeared in a porno she has abruptly limited her career options - probably forever. Just to name a few, she’ll effectively be unable to ever work with children as a teacher or athletic coach, etc. And, unable to pursue a career in law enforcement and probably most any government job. And I'm guessing joining the military is off the table, too. All because of a fateful decision made while of legal age but not yet mature enough to fully understands its consequences. Please understand that I don't feel being in porn should preclude pursuing those careers, but nearly all hiring managers certainly would.

As a related comment. I’ll never understand why any grown man has any interest in viewing porn involving 18-21 year olds, anyway. My best guess is that they are sexually insecure men who fantasize about having partners who are too sexually inexperienced to know just how badly they suck at sex, or how small their dick is (which shouldn’t matter but seems to matter a great deal to most of those who watch porn). I feel the same way about men who fetishizes sex with virgins or obsess on marrying one. Fucking gross.

 

[razor33a]

I wish people would decide which age it is. "Why can't i drink at 18, I'man adult?", "excuse my bad decision I was only 18, I wasn't mature!". I also hear about brain being developed only at 23-26 so why not put it there? I'd just like to have one "adult/child cut off" and let the chips fall where they may. As to why someone wants to see 18-21 yo in porn that's their deal and it's legal. The military probably won't care unless you are in some security clearance job or very visible, not that your time in won't be without issues if it's found out.

 

[SissyBrandi19]

Well, your argument would really say 25 is the age, since that is when the brain fully develops.

 

[bobb64]

Here we go again the moral expert and his 18 year olds can't make a decision.

 

[LMWM321]

Here we go again the moral expert and his 18 year olds can't make a decision.

I didn't say they can't make ANY decisions. ..I said there are SOME decisions that have such far reaching implications that they shouldn't be able to yet make. Yep.

And I'm not a moral expert, but I'm also not oblivious to moral questions.

 

[LMWM321]

I'd just like to have one "adult/child cut off" and let the chips fall where they may.

Well... that's you. That may be pragmatic but that doesn't means it's good policy. Are you indifferent to young people harming their lives?

 

[aego99x]

I agree with LMWM321 and have one thing to add to it. There really isn't a set age where everyone is mature enough to consider all of the ramifications a decision has.

I'm 63 and have made some really dumb decisions well into my 30's and 40's. Yet I've met some 18-year-olds whose maturity level well exceeds my own - "old souls" as some would say.

So, LMWM321's suggestion of 21 being a limit before a young woman (or man, for that matter) should be allowed to take that step of entering into becoming a subject in the world of pornographic material would definitely help cut down on the number of young lives negatively impacted by such a decision.

All just my own opinion, of course, and not meant to offend anyone.

 

[razor33a]

Well... that's you. That may be pragmatic but that doesn't means it's good policy. Are you indifferent to young people harming their lives?

I'm tired of the multiple ages for responsibility. Commit murder at 18, just a child. Set it and be done. Then everyone knows at that age it's your problem no matter how stupid it was. If at 63 you want to stick your hand in a running lawnmower go ahead. You shouldn't, but you're at the age where you know the ramifications as an adult. Should 18 yo do porn? Probably not, and they should also listen to people who say not to but it's pushed as a good thing and all sex work is good work (those who say that never put an age on it) so who's fault is that? I'm not saying it so somebody or some industry is. Just pick one age, that's what I said.

 

[ericrodman101]

No one should be allowed to do porn without written permission from their grandchildren.

 

[dirk2024]

Just pick one age, that's what I said.

And that goes for everything, including war. No one should be risking life and limb for our country if they can't participate or take advantage of the freedoms they are fighting for.

 

[LMWM321]

I'm tired of the multiple ages for responsibility. Commit murder at 18, just a child. Set it and be done

Why? Why should there be a one size fits all age rule? Because it's easy to remember? That may suit your need for simplicity, but that hardly means it's good policy.

We have different ages for driving learners permit, for a full driving license, ability to work part-time vs. full-time, when one can purchase cigarettes, alcohol, a minimum age for enlisting in the army, etc.. So what's so untenable about one more?

And I would argue that none of the aforementioned automatically limits your future opportunities like doing a porno does.

I'd personally be fine w/ 25 as the minimum age.

 

[dirk2024]

I'd personally be fine w/ 25 as the minimum age.

Then personally, you can refrain from doing porn until you're 25. Congratulations you!

 

[OneEyedSteve]

Interesting opinion. Of course there are numerous countries where the age for legal consumption of alcohol and tobacco is less than 21. Should young women in those countries be restricted by US policies too?
There's little doubt that people in their late teens are impressionable and sometimes easily persuaded. But is it the responsibility of authorities to restrict their choices, despite however poor those decisions might be? Where do you draw the line with regards to restricting what people who are old enough to vote and pay taxes do with their lives?

 

[LMWM321]

Where do you draw the line with regards to restricting what people who are old enough to vote and pay taxes do with their lives?

But there are already MANY age-related restrictions, and the age is not the same for all..

Car Rental
Buying Aerosol paint
Buying Cigarettes
Buying Alcohol
Adventure Activities (Zip lining, Parachuting, etc.)
Gun purchase
voting
Buying Fireworks
Purchasing weed and related paraphernalia
Purchasing some OTC medications like Sudafed.

I think it's pretty darn silly to suggest we don't have the band-width to have one more, especially when you consider that the things above merely pose a possible risk whereas being in a porno is certain to negatively impact a young persons life.

Hell, even accessing Porn is supposed to be limited to 21 years old (in many states) which is highly fucking ironic when you consider that you can be a porn actress at 18.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

But there are already MANY age-related restrictions, and the age is not the same for all..

Car Rental
Buying Aerosol paint
Buying Cigarettes
Buying Alcohol
Adventure Activities (Zip lining, Parachuting, etc.)
Gun purchase
voting
Buying Fireworks
Purchasing weed and related paraphernalia
Purchasing some OTC medications like Sudafed.

I think it's pretty darn silly to suggest we don't have the band-width to have one more, especially when you consider that the things above merely pose a possible risk whereas being in a porno is certain to negatively impact a young persons life.

Hell, even accessing Porn is supposed to be limited to 21 years old, which is highly fucking ironic when you consider that you can be a porn actress at 18.

Indeed there are different ages for different things. However your opinions seems somewhat skewed by your nationality. From a non-American's perspective, the idea that being in porn is more detrimental than gun ownership is absurd given the risks associated with private gun ownership.
Feel free to validate the idea that working in porn is almost certain to negatively affect a person's life. Especially considering the many thousands of young women who've chosen to open OF accounts to monetize their sexuality.

 

[LMWM321]

Indeed there are different ages for different things. However your opinions seems somewhat skewed by your nationality. From a non-American's perspective, the idea that being in porn is more detrimental than gun ownership is absurd given the risks associated with private gun ownership.
Feel free to validate the idea that working in porn is almost certain to negatively affect a person's life. Especially considering the many thousands of young women who've chosen to open OF accounts to monetize their sexuality.

There is no doubt that the consequences of using a gun, playing with fireworks, using alcohol, etc.. have the POTENTIAL to be even more devastating than being in a porno, but they are not guaranteed consequences. Being in porn has guaranteed consequences for an 18 year old girl. A pre-employment background check will certainly reveal her work in porn which will almost certainly mean she'll never get a job working with children or teens as a teacher, or coach, or get a job in law enforcement, in government, etc.. Moreover, a girl this young may not be able to fully comprehend the impact of being in porn might have on her own children.

Your comment about having an OF account doesn't make sense.. ..That's porn. I'm referring to how being in porn precludes doing other things with ones life.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

There is no doubt that the consequences of using a gun, playing with fireworks, using alcohol, etc.. have the POTENTIAL to be even more devastating than being in a porno, but they are not guaranteed consequences. Being in porn has guaranteed consequences for an 18 year old girl. A pre-employment background check will certainly reveal her work in porn which will almost certainly mean she'll never get a job working with children or teens as a teacher, or coach, or get a job in law enforcement, in government, etc.. Moreover, a girl this young may not be able to fully comprehend the impact of being in porn might have on her own children.

Your comment about having an OF account doesn't make sense.. ..That's porn. I'm referring to how being in porn precludes doing other things with ones life.

So the US has legislation in place that prevents someone who's worked in porn from working with children, in law enforcement etc? Seems pretty Draconian.
If I owned a children's nursery (I think you'd call them kindergartens) and I had 2 applicants, one who had worked in porn and one who owned a dozen guns, it wouldn't be the gun owner getting the job.
And there are many, many things we do when we're young adults that impacts our later lives and the lives of our children. Where do you draw the line with regards to government interference in personal choices?

 

[LMWM321]

So the US has legislation in place that prevents someone who's worked in porn from working with children, in law enforcement etc? Seems pretty Draconian.
If I owned a children's nursery (I think you'd call them kindergartens) and I had 2 applicants, one who had worked in porn and one who owned a dozen guns, it wouldn't be the gun owner getting the job.

Well, first off.. I fucking hate guns and believe they should be MUCH more highly regulated then they are. ..No disagreement there.

And I totally agree that I personally would feel much more comfortable with a retired porn actress teaching my kids than a gun fetishist. But sadly, here in the US... The opposite is true. And the Equal Opportunity Act, which protects certain groups from employment discrimination, does NOT protect Porn Actresses. Employers are free to disqualify them just because they worked in porn. And they would. And this is confirmed by retired porn actresses who talk about the challenges of finding work outside of the Adult Entertainment industry.

So, the age of making such a fateful decision should be raised to an age where a young woman fully understands the far reaching implications of her decision. 25 seems very reasonable. Should the age of owing a gun be raised? Yep! But that's a different top for a different forum.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

Well, first off.. I fucking hate guns and believe they should be MUCH more highly regulated then they are. ..No disagreement there.

And I totally agree that I personally would feel much more comfortable with a retired porn actress teaching my kids than a gun fetishist. But sadly, here in the US... The opposite is true. And the Equal Opportunity Act, which protects certain groups from employment discrimination, does NOT protect Porn Actresses. Employers are free to disqualify them just because they were porn actresses. And they would. And this is confirmed by retired porn actresses who talk about the challenges of finding work outside of the Adult Entertainment industry.

So, the age of making such a fatal decision should be raised to an age where a young woman fully understands the far reaching implications of her decision. 25 seems very reasonable. Should the age of owing a guy be raised? Yep! But that's a different top for a different forum.

I had no idea that the industry was so discriminated against in the US. Considering it was almost the birthplace of modern porn, it seems odd to say the least. And the same would apply to OF "models" presumably?

 

[LMWM321]

I had no idea that the industry was so discriminated against in the US. Considering it was almost the birthplace of modern porn, it seems odd to say the least. And the same would apply to OF "models" presumably?

Would it have the same affect on Only Fans models having sex? Yep... no different at all.

 

[NightBirdNYC]

Just a thought here, as it seems many assume age to be a baseline for what one does. I find it bordering on the ridiculous that a man or a woman can join the military at 18, and lose their limbs or, worse yet their lives, but can't (in most States) order a beer in a bar until they are 21. All in all, it's what one makes of their opportunities. The are certainly bad outcomes for some, but for others porn opened doors that were closed beforehand. I believe it's all dependent on how one navigates their opportunities.

 

[LMWM321]

Just a thought here, as it seems many assume age to be a baseline for what one does. I find it bordering on the ridiculous that a man or a woman can join the military at 18, and lose their limbs or, worse yet their lives, but can't (in most States) order a beer in a bar until they are 21. All in all, it's what one makes of their opportunities. The are certainly bad outcomes for some, but for others porn opened doors that were closed beforehand. I believe it's all dependent on how one navigates their opportunities.

thx for replying NB .

As I see it, the fact that some age restrictions seem arbitrary doesn't mean that all age restrictions are bad. And, to your point, I would argue that 18 is too young for serving in an active war zone. There are countless other roles in the military for an 18-21 year old to serve that are no more dangerous than civilian life.

By comparison, the chance of doing a porn negatively and severely impacting an 18 year old girls life is pretty much 100%. And the research is pretty clear that a girl that age isn't able to fully comprehend what these impacts are and what they would mean to her, or her kids, down the road.

To be clear, I'm not anti-porn, but I do think some common sense rules regarding minimum age are in order. And I still maintain that any grown man who is interested in "barely legal" porn should do some soul-searching.

 

[Sct73]

So you’re saying that at 18 a person is not an adult? You can join the military at 18. In any court a person is considered an adult at 18.

 

[LMWM321]

So you’re saying that at 18 a person is not an adult? You can join the military at 18. In any court a person is considered an adult at 18.

Did you read the thread? I laid out some reasons for why the minimum age should be 21, or better yet… 25. Maybe read the whole thread and report back. It will take 5 mins…

 

[Sct73]

I did read your thread. Simple and cut and dry. Adult age is 18 in the USA. You can’t have other parameters stating a person is an adult at different ages. I’m game if we change the law for “adulthood” at 21. But for everything not just certain things