Michael Moore's 28th Amendment

[Wrmfd]

Sorry if someone's already made a thread about it (not really), and I understand I've posted it elsewhere already, but it truly is an important piece/instance because Moore has composed what I believe will greatly instigate the first serious effort to repeal Amendment II.

And if it is repealed, socialism/democracy/majority mob will have succeeded in completely removing the unalienable POWER America's framers specifically constituted to individual patriots to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

All I know is Game of Thrones better pump out its last fast or The War to Save American Independence will crush it in ratings.

Michael Moore's 28th Amendment
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10154778028796857

 

[DMBFFF]

Why not agitate to just repeal the 2nd amendment?

PROPOSED 28th AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION
“A well regulated State National Guard, being helpful to the safety and security of a State in times of need, along with the strictly regulated right of the people to keep and bear a limited number of non-automatic Arms for sport and hunting, with respect to the primary right of all people to be free from gun violence, this shall not be infringed.”

What about phasers?

 

[ryan8558]

No problem. Will not get enough states to approve it. Will die just like the ERA.

 

[phrodeau]

Why not agitate to just repeal the 2nd amendment?




What about phasers?

It's repeal and replace, if done properly. Otherwise, the guy in the Oval Office will just put an EO in its place.

 

[Wrmfd]

BTW:

Obviously, there's still time to try to prevent what no doubt lies straight ahead if the socialists aren't stopped.

So, in good faith effort while patriots await to see if traitorous socialists are foiled by something other than miracle before inevitably arrives, I suggest completely pulling their politically-correct "gun control" flying carpet ride right-out from under them.

Amendment II's ethos isn't about simple "Arms", it's all about POWER...

...the POWER to defend the Constitution's mandated republican form of government against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And, make no mistake, American hasn't witnessed a POWER battle like this since 1861.

...the right of the people to keep and bear POWER shall not be infringed.

No one's fooling anyone anymore: it ain't about anything else.

 

[Wrmfd]

No problem. Will not get enough states to approve it. Will die just like the ERA.

There was a day in America when abortion was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

There was a day in American when gay marriage was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

Just in my days, America has radically changed in vital ways that virtually no American before could even practically imagine.

America was founded and lived until recently (relatively speaking) on linear time. Then it hit exponential time (where radical changes come much quicker). I discern America's clock has started ticking in atomic time, where changes actually happen before 99% of people even realize it.

Since the day I was born, socialism hasn't given even an inch to individual liberty, while individual liberty has been almost totally quashed by socialism in America. That is as consistent a pattern as is practically possible...

...and "No problem" are just as consistently renowned as infamous last words.

 

[DMBFFF]

It's repeal and replace, if done properly. Otherwise, the guy in the Oval Office will just put an EO in its place.

What's an "EO?"—I being a newbie here.

There was a day in America when abortion was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

For the most part, it isn't.

There was a day in American when gay marriage was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

more tolerable/less-intolerable than homosexuality, premarital sex, oral sex, anal sex, and contraceptives being illegal.

 

[Wrmfd]

BTW2:

Here's a simple test to prove to yourself whether you're a natural socialist or a native individual liberty lover...

Read the following words:

...the right of the people to keep and bear POWER shall not be infringed.

Focus on the word "people". Now, do you automatically discern that world:

1) Collectively

or

2) Individually

Easy, peasy, eh?

 

[DMBFFF]

As Larry King once put it, the amendment was poorly written.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

The dick head can't even write. He takes three separate thoughts (with no conceivable relevant relationship between the National Guard/milita and non-automatic weapons for sport and/or hunting) lumps them altogether, but only protects the third one -- itself an impossible dream -- from "infringement."

What a clown.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sorry if someone's already made a thread about it (not really), and I understand I've posted it elsewhere already, but it truly is an important piece/instance because Moore has composed what I believe will greatly instigate the first serious effort to repeal Amendment II.

And if it is repealed, socialism/democracy/majority mob will have succeeded in completely removing the unalienable POWER America's framers specifically constituted to individual patriots to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

All I know is Game of Thrones better pump out its last fast or The War to Save American Independence will crush it in ratings.

Michael Moore's 28th Amendment
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10154778028796857

LMFAO!!!

Yea that will happen soon....neither team is together enough to pass basic reforms the overwhelming majority agree need to happen, much less have a successful Constitutional convention to pass a total cluster fuck amendment.

Moore is just blowing hot air as usual.



This right here....

The dick head can't even write. He takes three separate thoughts (with no conceivable relevant relationship between the National Guard/milita and non-automatic weapons for sport and/or hunting) lumps them altogether, but only protects the third one -- itself an impossible dream -- from "infringement."

What a clown.

/thread

 

[Ishmael]

The dick head can't even write. He takes three separate thoughts (with no conceivable relevant relationship between the National Guard/milita and non-automatic weapons for sport and/or hunting) lumps them altogether, but only protects the third one -- itself an impossible dream -- from "infringement."

What a clown.

James Joyce could have done better.

Ishmael

 

[coachdb18]

Why not agitate to just repeal the 2nd amendment?




What about phasers?

Because you can't repeal Natural Law. It's the same reason you can't repeal the Law of Gravity.

Back when the Bill of Rights was proposed and adopted, there was a lot of debate about the wisdom of including them. They agreed to not include them in the original document. But many of the Founders refused to accept such. They added them as 10 Amendments as the 'Bill of Rights', and it passed. That debate centered on whether it was wise to enshrine these Laws in a government document, the 10 being recognized for being Unalienable rights (notice that's different than Inalienable). The intention was to state unequivocally that the new nation made a promise to its citizens never to challenge the basic human rights we are all born with, the rights enshrined being ours as our right from God.... not from government. That was the problem, as many felt what the government can enshrine, it can also be argued that government dispenses, and at some future date could even so much as argue it was rescinding them.

That day has arrived, when present-day Godless liberals who fail to recognize the source of their Unalienable rights, have decided it's within their scope to be able to do exactly that. They view the Constitution as a 'living document', meaning the original intent is irrelevant, it's only important as a 'suggestion' to us in the present day and based on our present problems and societal norms.

Thankfully, wiser heads wrote the Constitution with the intent of standing the test of time, and present wiser heads have the Supreme Court leaning towards sanity once again (and hopefully it will be refreshed with another two or three to replace the lost souls now aging out of it).

 

[Hypoxia]

Other nations manage to get by without fully-armed populaces. Some of those nations also rank higher than USA in happiness, liveability, homicide rates, prosperity, opportunity, etc. I guess Murkans are too dumb to live that way, just as they can't handle single-payer healthcare, universal education, and generous parental leave policies. Pity. Progress sucks.

Oh well. Firearms control is impossible in USA now. You have the right to shoot or be shot. Maybe both.

 

[coachdb18]

Other nations manage to get by without fully-armed populaces. Some of those nations also rank higher than USA in happiness, liveability, homicide rates, prosperity, opportunity, etc. I guess Murkans are too dumb to live that way, just as they can't handle single-payer healthcare, universal education, and generous parental leave policies. Pity. Progress sucks.

Oh well. Firearms control is impossible in USA now. You have the right to shoot or be shot. Maybe both.

Once upon a time, there were three little pigs. Each decided to build a home....

... and the one who built his home of sticks was the first to find that he had put all his costly world goods in a shelter that blew away when the big bad wolf huffed...and puffed .. and blew his poor planning away.

The last little pig planned well, recognizing that a common defense was enshrined in his Constitution, and protected all the other things he had... and his brick and mortar, well protected abode was the destination of the hedonistic little pigs that didn't see it that way!

 

[Boxlicker101]

There was a day in America when abortion was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

There was a day in American when gay marriage was almost totally considered such a "No problem."

Just in my days, America has radically changed in vital ways that virtually no American before could even practically imagine.

America was founded and lived until recently (relatively speaking) on linear time. Then it hit exponential time (where radical changes come much quicker). I discern America's clock has started ticking in atomic time, where changes actually happen before 99% of people even realize it.

Since the day I was born, socialism hasn't given even an inch to individual liberty, while individual liberty has been almost totally quashed by socialism in America. That is as consistent a pattern as is practically possible...

...and "No problem" are just as consistently renowned as infamous last words.

The examples you mention are SCOTUS rulings, rather than being included in the Bill of Rights. A Constitutional amendment, especially one repealing part of the B of R would not be passed without extensive public debate. Do you remember the ERA? An attempt to repeal the Second would produce even more rancor than that failed one did.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Once upon a time, there were three little pigs. Each decided to build a home....

... and the one who built his home of sticks was the first to find that he had put all his costly world goods in a shelter that blew away when the big bad wolf huffed...and puffed .. and blew his poor planning away.

The last little pig planned well, recognizing that a common defense was enshrined in his Constitution, and protected all the other things he had... and his brick and mortar, well protected abode was the destination of the hedonistic little pigs that didn't see it that way!

As I recall, the house of straw was the first one to be blown away, then the house of sticks. Even so, the point is well taken.

 

[OldJourno]

When the 2nd Amendment is repealed, will unarmed police come to get your guns?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Other nations manage to get by without fully-armed populaces. Some of those nations also rank higher than USA in happiness, liveability, homicide rates, prosperity, opportunity, etc. I guess Murkans are too dumb to live that way, just as they can't handle single-payer healthcare, universal education, and generous parental leave policies. Pity. Progress sucks.

Oh well. Firearms control is impossible in USA now. You have the right to shoot or be shot. Maybe both.

Those other nations don't have as much violent crime, and are less in need of the equalizers for the populace.

 

[coachdb18]

As I recall, the house of straw was the first one to be blown away, then the house of sticks. Even so, the point is well taken.

Yea, I gave the abridged version, since Liberals are REALLY heavily ADD, especially when dealing with real world problems LOL

 

[lickitandstickit]

What's an "EO?"—I being a newbie here.

Welcome... EO is a acronym for "Executive Order" as in the president can give a Executive Order.

I'm rather new here too, but willing to help. You'll need to stop at the hardware store and pick up a shovel. You'll be slinging alot of dog shit over your neighbors fence. Expect the same in return. Unless you have no dog in the fight, or simply own cats

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Moore is just blowing hot air as usual.

I think it's worth asking, "How HOT is it?" More pointedly, "How blatantly pointless is his substitute amendment?"

This much: Almost all of Moore's theoretical regulations allegedly empowered by his nonsense could theoretically be enacted under the language of the 2nd Amendment as written. If one believes Justice Scalia's qualifier in Heller...:

Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

...nothing about that qualifier indicates where the line of permissible regulation should be drawn. In fact, Scalia went on to endorse the lawful nature of most existing regulations.

So....want to restrict sport and hunting rifles to non-automatic? No problem.

Impose the necessity of getting a license? Can't rule it out based on 2nd Amendment language.

Restrict clips to six bullets? Certainly the Constitution does not address ammunition.

Fingerprint recognition safeties? It could happen (theoretically).

About the only new ground Moore's drivel would mine is the idea of women giving their men a "note from home" and re-instating the line Heller did draw with regard to keeping a weapon in the home.

In other words, thanks for nothing Michael. Kind of like those films you make.

 

[Wrmfd]

The examples you mention are SCOTUS rulings...

Where in the Constitution does it empower the Judiciary to establish either abortion or gay marriage a "right"?

Are you aware of how truly limited the framers intended the Constitution, not only on its specific empowerment of the new federal government, but also specific jurisdictional range overall, federally?

 

[Hypoxia]

Those other nations don't have as much violent crime, and are less in need of the equalizers for the populace.

Maybe they have less violent crime because they lack equalizers, init? What pro-2nd enthusiasts are saying is that Murkans are too stupid and vicious to act like civilized beings. It boils down to kill or be killed. Yay Amerikkka!

Once again, I'm not calling for controls or confiscation because IMHO they're impossible. It's too late. Murkans love weapons, love slaughter, love pain.

But look at the bodies in these mass shootings and police shootings of unarmed folk. Look at marching nazis flying swastika flags and hooded klansmen burning crosses. Ask yourself:

Is this the world I want for my family?​

 

[Saint Peter]

The dick head can't even write.




What a clown.

Yeah. Eyer is a clown.