Mel Gibson - oh there is important news!

Jenny_Jackson said:
We will know soon if this is really a career killing situation or not. The Hollywood film industry is dominated by jewish investors, producers and directors. Mel Gibson, with only a couple of exceptions, produces, acts in or directs movies that make $money$. In the estimation of the powers in the film industry if Mel Gibson is going to continue making money after this fiasco, he won't be hurt at all.
I'm in the Hollywood area and more in the know here....

First, it wasn't jokes. It was a drunken rant that went on and on and on about how awful Jews were.
Second, "Passion" focused on blaming the Jews for the death of Christ...as compared to the Romans. It did not focus on the fact that Christ was Jewish. And after the movie came out there were reports of young people who'd seen it saying to teachers and friends, 'I saw that movie, and I cried. I hate the jews for what they did to Jesus."

Mel put that out that movie with that spin and he did NOT take listen to pleas from Rabbis for more moderation in his depiction of Jews as the evil Christ-killers. That was his call. His freedom of speech. It made him lots of money and a hero to all kinds of nice fundies.

Forgive me if I can't shed any tears if, low and behold, an asshole who insisted up and down that he wasn't anti-Semitic in spite of what was evident in his movie reveals that he is an anti-Semitic asshole after getting drunk and driving at 90mph.

What did they forget? The hundred hungry actors, artists and technicians who lay their hopes on Apocolypto, and who will continue to be hungry actors, technicians and artists due to these haphazard and personal statements.
Boo-hoo-hoo. Cry me a river. They got to act, they got paid. They will get other jobs, or not, like all the other hungry actors and techs. Do you think that any money made from that movie will go into THEIR pockets? Please. They got paid and now they have to move on no matter whether the movie does well or poor.

You might as well say, "Gosh, don't those critics who pan a movie ever think of the hungry actors and techs!? How can they say a movie's bad and tell people not to see it!!" :rolleyes:

Regarding Mel and this fiasco, the Jews in Hollywood know their business. Mel has said sorry and they've all said, "We're disappointed in you, Mel, but we forgive you." They know what side their bread is buttered on. They won't disrespect Mel openly or at all. Not so long as he is a force to be reckoned with. Which he will be until he does something REALLY stupid like get drunk and murders his family or something like that.

Don't cry for Mel or his movie. He'll come out fine. Given the responses people have been sending in ("So what if he said the Jews are the problem? They are! He just told the truth! Go Mel!"), his movie should do just fine.
 
3113 said:
Don't cry for Mel or his movie. He'll come out fine. Given the responses people have been sending in ("So what if he said the Jews are the problem? They are! He just told the truth! Go Mel!"), his movie should do just fine.

Are there really? Sometimes I get so pissed off with all the hate against Muslims and the support for Israel no matter what that I forget that there are still anti-Semites besides Mel Gibson and neo-Nazis.
 
MzDeviancy said:
Are there really? Sometimes I get so pissed off with all the hate against Muslims and the support for Israel no matter what that I forget that there are still anti-Semites besides Mel Gibson and neo-Nazis.
Oh, yes. One journalist who wrote an editorial on the situation (a fairly balanced and amusing one), apparently got a ton of letters telling him that what Mel had said was just the truth and that Gibson should be praised for honesty and it's about time someone told it like it is about them damn, dirty Jews.

I read a letter to the editor myself that said, "It's not anti-Semitic to say that the Jews started the wars. They did. They're to blame for it all."
 
MzDeviancy said:
Are there really? Sometimes I get so pissed off with all the hate against Muslims and the support for Israel no matter what that I forget that there are still anti-Semites besides Mel Gibson and neo-Nazis.

Unfortunately there are still anti-semites, anit-muslims, anti-just about every thing else. It's the nature of the world. Governments use it as a tool to gain support for otherwise ununpopular programs, wars and to maintain power. Parents teach it to their children, knowingly or not. Friends inculcate it in their peers. It's very much everywhere and hard to guard against in ourselves.
 
CharleyH said:
maybe lol.

You talk of they, mostly and forget about you. :) I agree though.

thats what all Jewish people say. Seriously. :| You are not saying anything new. What does the Passion of Christ confirm? Proof from the movie, please - because I didn't see much that was different from the Christian bible (and no - I am not Christian). The Christians were similarly all up in arms about Scorcese's movie 'The Last Temptation of Christ'. Did that make Scorcese an anti-christian? What was that word you used - oh yes - duh.

Oh no, I include me and us and they and all that jazz.

The anti-semitism is not from his depiction of the subject matter or it being based on the Bible but for basing itself on an anti-semitic play which was "The Passion of the Christ".

As you point out there are much less anti-smitic ways to point out Christ's suffering without lessening it's "historical accuracy" or any other factor of it. The choice of that play however and trying to pass it as Christian proof was anti-semitic as was attempting to call it "keeping true to the Christian faith".
 
3113 said:
Oh, yes. One journalist who wrote an editorial on the situation (a fairly balanced and amusing one), apparently got a ton of letters telling him that what Mel had said was just the truth and that Gibson should be praised for honesty and it's about time someone told it like it is about them damn, dirty Jews.

I read a letter to the editor myself that said, "It's not anti-Semitic to say that the Jews started the wars. They did. They're to blame for it all."

Yeah, you get a lot of that with the racist folk.

"I'm not racist! All I'm saying is that Islam is a religion of hate, and Muslims are misogynistic fanatics who murder innocent people. Just stating facts. Geez..."
 
Clearly, Mel is a bigot.

I wouldn't go watch a movie made by a hollywood director who on a drunken rant got caught using the n-word and talking about they should all be back in chains.

I just find it difficult to put money in the pocket of someone who hates an entire race/religion and may someday take that farther than a drunken rant.

Correct me if I'm wrong... but all the people working on his movie already got paid; I would feel bad for them except for the most part not all that many hollywood movies make someone a 'STAR' or what have you.

Mel is a bigot... I'm glad he got drunk and went on a rant; it pointed out another shithead for me.

I like it when people put on the Scarlet SH voluntarily... it reduces the amount of analysis I have to do on their actions.
 
SeaCat said:
A friend of mine, who just happens to be a Rabbi, was asked about this. His answer?

If Mel Gibsons comments were the worst things people in this world had to worry about, it would be a good thing.

I tend to agree.

Cat

Exactly, mountain out of a drunken molehill.
 
elsol said:
Clearly, Mel is a bigot.

I wouldn't go watch a movie made by a hollywood director who on a drunken rant got caught using the n-word and talking about they should all be back in chains.

I just find it difficult to put money in the pocket of someone who hates an entire race/religion and may someday take that farther than a drunken rant.

I'm with you, in spirit. I'd like to say I'm a staunch believer in putting my money where my heart is, but I can't. Because of Woody Allen. The sleaze still makes me laugh, even though I think he might be a pedophile as well as a closet misogynist.

To your point, Elsol, with the dozens of movies I consider seeing every year and never get around to, it's no hardship to stay away from the few that either glorify bigotry or enrich a particular bigot. Mel Gibson won't suffer for the lack of my attendance at his films. Neither will I, since I lost interest in his film career about halfway through Beyond Thunderdome. (Tina Turner rocked, though!)

Regarding Passion of the Christ: I didn't see it, and I do hate it when people express firm opinions on fillms they haven't seen. My impression that it had an anti-Semitic slant is entirely based on the fact that there was a debate about it.

To defend the film or reject it for its historical accuracy is meaningless, since there is no historical evidence of the existence of Jesus. Accuracy according to the New Testament is open to interpretation, too, since all we have are translations of translations from the original.

For example, the King James version excludes this passage from the Book of Revelatons:

"Mel Gibson is a prick."




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