Meijii Inn OCC club

[kitsuke]

You are correct CG

The breaking of intimacy can happen in threads like that. But it is also something that may have to be put up with in multiplayer threads. After all, the rest of the story is rarely put on hold for two people (I think this is where most of the allure of private threads comes from). I suppose one must look to the story as an overall whole, rather than the heat of the moment, in those cases. After all, many fine authors often suspend plot at a crucial point and whisk off to another player in their plot.

Be that as it may, I do believe that others in the thread may want to hold off on posting for a short time if something crucial or intense is happening to a couple in the story. They can always post six hours later yes? In some people's cases that is not possible, but a day delay for a post shouldn't be a killer. Although if those in that "moment" take more than a day between posting their intimate moment, they are just asking for it to be interrupted.

Anyway, just my two cents on it.

 

[Swashbuckler]

"CG," I say pouring some tea. "I have to agree that the scene was smashed by the next post. I find that these types disjointed posts happen more with the more writers are involved. One person posting to something totally diferent story aspect than the writer before him/her." Tanking a sip of tea before continuing, "I don't think that this can ever be totally eliminated in a forum like we all have at Lit. There will be conflicts of online time for differnt people from different parts of the world. I do have a suggestion to limit this a bit." I finish my tea and set the cup down, thinking hard for a moment. Very hard, since I am just another empty head....

"I must stress going back to the reading other posts, perhaps by reading the post prior to yours you could ease into switching to yourself. Meanwhile, back to myself and Joan, jumped into our jalopy and sped away , or something better of course. But transition of place and character could be done better around here." I say and pour myself some more tea to shut myself up.

 

[Cutie Lillie]

For me.. if the posters have tried to work together so that they have some idea of where they are going....

then, I agree, is easy to hold off till the time is right for my character to post...

timing.. is importnat to me, to feel like my character makes sense in what she does in relation to everyone else's postings...

and to the whole story... the flow..

as far as the breaks, if they make sense, to me its just like how a movie switches scenes.. only to come back ....

that works for me as long as the overall thread is flowing along a logical line...


for me personally.. if the flow starts to faulter, no plot is developing, then I need to talk to the other writers and figure out some direction we can agree upon..but that's me.

 

[felixdakat]

i haven't had much practice in writing stories, and by much i mean i haven't had any, here at lit. i can, however understand how that would be an issue, so i guess all we can really do is raise awareness about the problem and inform people that it may not be a good idea to throw a carr chase into the middle of a romantic dialog, right? other then that, if your going to leave the doors open for amature writers to jump in, they're probaly going to do an amature job. i think making the amie's live in fear of screwing up a piece could do the trick. how about enscribing death threats, in the first post, to any one who corrupts the mood of the piece? this may solve your problem.

maybe someday i will write a story here at lit, but it'll probally lean away from erotica.

 

[Cutie Lillie]

*LOL*

Yeah.. like...screw up this story and we'll find you.. LOLOL

It's a good point.. there are different threads for different reasons and stories.. and all have a good place.....

And as a newbie knowing its ok to 'try the wings' without the concern for someone else hating me for it is important...

Probably why in some threads people join up to write together.. and some threads are open for all.. .and some are specifically for new people...

We all are at different levesl of experience both here at LIT and in writing in general

 

[cgraven]

Yes Lillie that is correct. The levels of expressing yourself in the written word varies from person to person, as well as their style or styles of writing is concerned.

There should but be a comfort level at which the writer starts. To their style and the situations that they act out here at lit. The control of their character should always be up to them. Other writers should not put words into their mouths or describe actions not freely taken by your character.

 

[caspai]

I was lucky enough to know people who wrote on Lit before I started posting here, and my first thread, which is still going on, was entered into with one of those friends. We know each other well, although we hadn't really written with each other before. We once attempted a story through email, but it just didn't seem to happen. Coming to Lit, and being able to write with her, has been a wonderful experience.

It is ideal to write with a friend to "get your feet wet", but that isn't always possible. As I said, I was lucky. For some, it is easy to just jump into a thread with people you don't know. For others, the comfort level has to be a bit wider. Getting to know the personality of the authors you will be posting with can be a valuable aid in establishing the comfort level you feel you need.

 

[Cutie Lillie]

I know that each person has their own preferences.

I often feel 'different' and sometimes 'lacking' if I compare myself to other writers at LIT.

Maybe I'm not writing 'enough'.....
Or pushing myself hard enough to write with people I don't know....

But you know.. I found I can't...

I mean I can't push myself.. for one cause I'm shy and if I push too hard then the fun would be gone.

I would like to write with more people, but unlike others who can dive in and write in any thread with anyone.. I'm just not like that. Maybe one day I will be....

I think its cause I have a deep sensitive side...
So, I'm less prolific but each time I do write I enjoy every second.. its never like a writing 'class'.. churning out posts. And I never want my posts to 'feel' like that for anyone who might read them either..

That would be too dull for me.. if the writing sounded too academic. I do that in real life all the time. Why would I want to bring academia in here ???? LOL *gag*

 

[caspai]

The fun for me is in the different personalities of the characters I write. Last week I was posting to the Oasis 66 at precisely the same time I was writing "We Tells Ya..." The dynamic played with my mind just a little. Well, more than just a little. Then throw Aristocratic ~Delights~ in, and the mix becomes truly strange. That is where the fun is for me, though, figuring out the different backgrounds for the different characters, making them feel "real" to me.

 

[Cutie Lillie]

Hi Cas

yes, I know what you mean..

Every character has a bit of me mixed in...if it was JUST a writing exercise... well.. beside yawning a whole lot.. there wouldn't be the fun of connecting to the characters...

 

[tmuyo]

i apologize for my poor hosting

i know i haven't been around lately, and i apologize. thankfully all seems to be going well. the reason for my absences are of course school related. my gpa is going down the crapper this quarter and i'll probably wind up on AP (which no longer is a good thing, because it now means academic probation instead of honors >_<"). i should be able to pull it up next qtr bcause im taking nothing but chinese related courses. hopefully i'll have a small modicum of time to spend here at lit next qtr. but i should be around during christmas break (dec. 16-jan. 2). once again, gomenezai!

and if this is where the debate about hiragana and katakana was, i found neither easier...i'm a chinese major and international relations (corporate) major. japanese is something i picked up for a while and as i just recently mentioned to lady tehari, 99% of the japanese i knew is gone.

consider these the rambling excuses of your awful host. i apologize once more.

 

[Honey_B]

(I give Tmuyo the softest possible kiss to his cheek)

I am just glad to see you. During your absence, we have been discussing writing.

Caspai brought up one of the true joys of writing which is um, delving into various characters. Transferring between the mindsets of different characters is a challenge. At the same time, I had the lovely Miss Cas tied up, I mean engaged, in the Oasis thread, I was teasing and taunting Tex in the Apartment. Quite an experience!

But it brings me to an interesting question I'd like to ask the talented writers of this site. Character or plot, which draws you to a thread more? And why? Have to ask the 'and why' part. I wouldn't be a teacher otherwise.

 

[caspai]

"The lovely Miss Cas"...

smiles at Honey.

I enjoyed being, um, occupied?

Anyway, as far as which is more of a draw, I think that it depends on what is the most compelling. Some people are better at setting a stage with atmosphere, and some are better at character development. I think that my area is in character development. Just don't ask me to come up with names for them. That is the worst part for me. A name is so key, and can set the entire tone of the character. When I come up with a character, the name is the last thing I can do.

I think that if the spark a writer has, and is able to exhibit, is in the plot, then the plot is what will keep the people reading it. If the character development is the genius of that particular writer, it is the character that will keep them coming back. Ideally, you want both to be strong. Ideally, it would be 78 degrees and sunny everywhere, every day.

 

[cgraven]

Most honored host you have been more than kind in letting us use your Inn to hold our discussions in. We miss your wise console and guiding hand.

Your Inn has been a place to stimulate the mind. Thank you most honored host.

 

[Swashbuckler]

After little thought, but much tea poured over Honey's question I finally say, "I would have to say that the story is the first hook for me, to get into a thread. A great story is the first step. It allows you to fill it with great characters." Pouring myself some more tea, "That said, however, it is the charcaters that drive me after the story begins. I love climbing inside the head of my characters. Figuring out what they would do based upon the actions of others intrigues me on a cerebral level. The stranger the character I am writing the harder it is to do that. The bigger the challenge the greater the reward from writing them," I say before trailing off to quietly sipping my tea in thought.

 

[Cutie Lillie]

ah.. I can't seperate the two..

Though when I look at a thread idea I immediately think whether I can relate to it or not...

Though I am starting to consider doing some writing that I can't relate to and see what comes up. LOL

So.. I guess if you shift it down .. its the character for me! the plot comes from there..

 

[cgraven]

'Ahhio" Master."

go to a secluded corner and rest up onn the pillows and take Saki that is warm and soothing.

 

[tmuyo]

*wakes up behind the tea bar*

i dun know wher you pepz wer bu i got tee drun las nigh *hiccup*

*goes back to sleep*

 

[cgraven]

C G picks up his host who got a little to happy last night and lays him on the pillow in the secluded corner,

Rest well my friend.

He stands guard over his host armed with his traveling staff.

 

[TXExpress]

Tex enters and bows

A fine question. Story vs. characters. Not unlike chicken vs. egg; can't have one without the other.

If I absolutely have to narrow it down to one, I pick character. It is a tough question. I cite "The Crusade," in which I agreed to participate as a bodyguard to the slave trader. In that case, the story was the draw. But when the opportunity arose to get a battlefield promotion to slave trader, far more interesting possibilities were opened up. The character overtook the story as the hook, primarily because that character helped drive the story more than it was driven by it.

I love improvisation, in which the characters come first, a story is thrown their way and they go from there. I also remember the film "Insignificance", in which characters not identified as, but amazingly resembling, Marilyn Monroe, Joe DiMaggio, Senator Joe McCarthy and Albert Einstein were put together for one night and essentially allowed to interact; to create their own story through dialogue and situational reaction. Or take "Twelve Angry Men" — characters took the simplest storyline and made magic.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Downing some tea, "Alright, it would seem there is a conscensus that characters are the biggest draw to the distinguished authors gathered here," I say pouring everyone some more tea. "That said," I say with quiet interest over the steaming pot, "what characters are each of you most pleased with writng? And of course why?" I add with a grin.

 

[cgraven]

I think the character I most enjoyed playing was "Jean Tougas" In Lillie’s "Mt St-Ann". He was a good guy, flawed a bit by his past and the story was a nice neat concise unit. There are two others that I really enjoyed because they made me stretch as a writer.

Mr. Brown in “Door to Door” and "Satan" in "Educating Eve".

 

[tmuyo]

as i wake up behind the bar i realize a newcomer has entered. feeling the pains of drinking way too strong of a concoction of green tea last night, i brew some oolong to calm my headache and to serve my guest.

"tehari-chan it is nice to see you here. we seem to miss eachother to often," stopping to clear a space at a small table i place a setting for two and pour the hot oolong. i motion for my guest to sit as i move down to my mat.

"so, tehari-chan, how have you been?" slowly breathing in the aroma of the oolong leaves to calm the raging battle within my skull.

 

[Ldy Tehari]

*Slipping in wearing my normal red kimono with black thunder clouds and silver cranes across.. my hair tightly pulled up in a bun on top of my head, two sticks holding it. Soft wooden shoes clack as I enter and slip them off into slippers approaching a cushioin and bowing to the host. Producing a small satchel and a small box. Bringing out a table Zen garden about 8 inches by 6 inches and laying at the table aside the tea*
A gift for the lord of the Tea house, may it bring peace to this home.

*smiling at you warmly*
I am doing very well today, I agree we miss each other too much. The tea smells wonderful. I have some chamomile if you'd like to add it for a headache?
I hope things are fairing well.. there was a question about the chinese history that I was wanted to ask you about.
Did you get to study much history on the Yellow Emperor? And was Tsun Tsu actually just a title from China or an actual man from Japan?

 

[tmuyo]

not enough facts of tsun tsu's life as far as dates allows me to comment on this. however, the title yellow emperor, huang di, has been in existence since the first "emperor" of the qin dynasty (after the sha, shang, and zhou dynasties).

since we're speaking about philosophy, what's your take on keng zi? i personally think he is the reason for unifying china and also for it's beating from the evil west opium wars and unequal treatises from them. i think that due to him, a strong sense of honor and respect came to the warring lords of the fuedal periods, but i blame him because the chinese people did not adapt his ideas with the changing future. chinese did not really care what was going on outside of china. a few emperors were curious but the officials in the government always kept him in place. kengzi's teachings kept them in a rigid system in which they couldn't expand beyond, and know the outside world. as the rest of the world progressed, china stayed in it's shell not knowing the differences in technology developing in the world. the west used gunpowder from the east and made guns, which were later used on the chinese during the opium wars.

having studied chinese culture and history has left me with a stronger sense of shame in what i am. being caucasian and knowing just how much bullshit was forced upon the rest of the world by the west saddens me in every history i became accustomed with. within chinese history i feel an extra burden of shame for how badly china was fucked over by the west.