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Was it easy to get away with murder?
Comments, thoughts?
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Medieval times?
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KRCummings
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How do you figure it would be easier to hide?
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More trees.
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He'd be the only one with a car.
KRCummings
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Not if Marty McFly showed up.
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Of course it was easy. Less populated, no cameras,no fingerprints or forensics, no CSI, no street lights, very little law enforcement, etc..
I think, in Medieval times, no one went to jail if a person was killed in a fair fight.
I think, in Medieval times, no one went to jail if a person was killed in a fair fight.
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lack of forensics, very basic understanding of science in general and an over reliance on religion and superstition would probably make it fairly easy to get away with murder. hell, if you picked the right people and the right time you could probably get away with it without even bothering to hide it if say it was a jew or what have you.
hell, if you were of the right class you probably wouldn't even need to do that.
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Yeah, I get that but I don't see it being easier to hide. Harder to travel, fewer people to blend in and be anonymous, more reliance on royalty/knights/church to survive. Obviously people did commit crimes and hide but I'd think it would be easier now than it was then.
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Man was still quite primitive then. Hell, we still have the same motivations and thoughts to kill or not to kill. The only difference is that we mask it better with our heightened or evolved intelligence.
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This. I could kill someone in one town, change clothes, and go to another town. No one would know. You didn't have anything traceable- no driver's license, no birth certificate, none of that shit. Birth records were ridiculously hard to validate and easy to forge.
And if I'm remembering this right, as long as you wear a green tunic you get to not only murder indiscriminately but run into people houses screaming, break all their shit, walk outside, go back in and do it all again.
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Nope. You are over thinking it. In medieval times, you just hid. If no one knew you murdered or killed someone, then there would be no need to rely on any group to survive. How could anyone know you killed someone if they did not see you do it OR knew of any obvious motive or threat for you to do so?
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well, i got lost in a tangent, but the lack of forensics is the big point. it just be easier to make excuses because they lacked the understanding to counter your claims.
but as for hiding i'm sure that in an agricultural era it'd be easy to find a nice pig farm to get rid of the evidence for you. those fuckers will eat anything.
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Right, Candi. Most times, birth records were unheard of. Unless one was royalty. Which was rare. The only law enforcement were soldiers or some sort of constable. Many people were born, lived, and died with no proof of them ever existing.Most of the general populous could not read or write then either. A most wanted poster was a drawing, not a pic. And legal documents 'Upon the King's Authority' were easily forged anyway.
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Bone, included.
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With little mobility, socially and geographically, it would be e helluva lot easier to pin the perp...
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No, everyone would know you were a stranger, traveling to a new town would be almost unheard of and the local Lord would surely want to know your business and quickly sense something wrong and probably execute you on the spot as a spy from nearby...
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I agree. Prolly like being an outcast Injun 2 centuries ago.
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... with the sign of the dirty nose...
And no whiskers if youre a dirty brave. A beard is a sure sign of clean livin.
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People still traveled all the time. You had to have merchants and whatnot- plus, you never know why people are in town. It's not like there weren't always scallywags that the general public didn't give a shit about.
Of course, location's a big deal. I assumed we were talking with a Eurocentric-woldview, so my mind went strait to a Monty Python and the Holy Grail era. If we're talking getting chased around by ninjas or samuri then I'm not dealing with that- but if I was where I am now, then it woulda been a hellva lot easier. I would've went out with a hunting party- all you really had to do would be to get whoever you were trying to kill alone, kill him in way that looked like an animal attack- then claim it was an animal attack. There's p'ainter & whompas cats and wolves & bears and whatnot- who can call you on it? There were no forensics.
Of course, location's a big deal. I assumed we were talking with a Eurocentric-woldview, so my mind went strait to a Monty Python and the Holy Grail era. If we're talking getting chased around by ninjas or samuri then I'm not dealing with that- but if I was where I am now, then it woulda been a hellva lot easier. I would've went out with a hunting party- all you really had to do would be to get whoever you were trying to kill alone, kill him in way that looked like an animal attack- then claim it was an animal attack. There's p'ainter & whompas cats and wolves & bears and whatnot- who can call you on it? There were no forensics.
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Most people lived their entire (short, nasty and brutish) lives within a six-mile radius...
Sorry.
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Most- but not all. How do you think the folks in the woodlands got their oranges or their seashells? Most people lived within a 6 mile radius, but it wasn't uncommon to see new folk come and go. And because most folk didn't leave their little Hamlet, AND there was no mass communication, all you basically had to do was leave. People were used to seeing traders come and go, so pick up some critter pelts or something on your way in, and you're good to go.
And I would honestly have fit in better then most- I'm short, thin, and can dress down really easily. I've got dominate, dark features. I could blend into a crowd like Ezio. Especially if I were afraid of getting caught.
But, like I said before, I don't think I would even have to leave, because no one's gonna call me on the whompas-cat attack. My ass saw a panther and ran. I don't know what the hell happened to him- I assume he got eaten. I didn't stop to find out.
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