Medieval Knights

[mastadonika]

Two knights in the middle ages.

 

[Dingo_Triplesix]

This may be difficult.

With a plot like this you will get a satire thing. Medieval times need to be rough and harsh and the society rigidly structured, otherwise it´s not credible. So it´s just not in the cards that the king and queen and everyone else start a big orgy, including all, regardless of their social stand.

But something like this may work:

There is an upcoming empire, led by a brute and cruel king who rules with an iron fist and uses sexual harrassment as a mean to control his people or to demonstrate his power and willforce. Think about King Edward in "Braveheart".

Another nation nearby is smaller and less primitive, the people there love peace, culture and (relative) freedom. But as they are much smaller and have less knights, they have to accept the predominance of the king. Maybe their own souvereign is ill or has just died.

They send two of their most noble and respected knights to discuss the conditions of the "peace treaty" between the two nations. The king welcomes them with a big smile, but in secret he has a plan to seduce and corrupt them. They got involved in mean games and intrigues, including all kinds of sexual humiliation.

Due to this their will is broken and their character destroyed. They become the zombie-like slaves of the king, sent back to their people to spread the disease of unlimited sexual egoism and acting out of power.

If the story ends here, it will be too dark, people will not like it. So we need a second part, where the good will triumph over the evil forces.

Let´s say the former souvereign of the small nation has a daughter (or son), a young but upright heroess - she is of unpredecended beauty, of course. She observes the corrupting actions of her two knights after their return and finds out the truth. Of course, only after the evil orgys etc. get worse and worse, and after the last innocent virgin is raped and disgraced.

So in an epic final fight she confronts the two knights in bed and has to stand her ground against the two brute guys, even when they rape her and torture her to the max.

In the end the two knights are touched by her noble and brave attitude when facing death and worse. They awake and understand how badly they have been manipulated by the king, both collapsing in shame and self-reproach.

The princess forgives them. They mount their horses in dark night to sneak back to the evil king and to murder him and his royal suite in a Tarantino-like massacre, after they set fire on the castle. Of course they die in the process, but this is not more than to expect, isn´t it?

All the people of both empires are glad that the evil king and his lickspittles are gone and vote the princess for their new queen and ruler. Her first order: To overcome the grief and the pain of the past, all of their subjects have to celebrate a one week romantic orgy, including sunshine and butterflies and girlfriend sex only...

Hm - thinking about it, we should get in contact with George R. R. Martin...

 

[anopheles_leet]

Medieval times need to be rough and harsh and the society rigidly structured, otherwise it´s not credible.

Honestly, that's probably as much of a caricature of the medieval era as anything else. It's particularly ironic if you're citing Braveheart as an example of a "credible" depiction of medieval culture - I can just feel a thousand historians wincing in horror at the thought! I assume you're talking about the "droit de seigneur/jus primae nocits" scenes in Braveheart, a concept which is universally agreed to by have been a myth invented by later sources to smear earlier monarchs for being barbaric. Don't get me wrong, there was undoubtedly a lot of knights and nobles who used their positions of power to have a bunch of less-than-consensual sex with impunity, but the "keeping the lower classes in line" thing isn't really a thing that happened. If you want to write a story with jus primae noctis as part of the setting, knock yourself out, but if you care about historical accuracy you should definitely be aware that's one of the most egregious mistakes in a film known for being profoundly historically inaccurate.

The idea of orgies at court doesn't actually seem all that far fetched to me, at least for most of Medieval Europe. Feudal cultures are built on personal fealty, and feasting and partying together would definitely be part of that. Among that elite, there was a lot of jockeying for power - while the society was rigidly structured in the sense that it was very hard to move from the peasant class to the noble class, your fortunes could change a whole lot depending on how much the ruling Monarch liked you - and you can absolutely bet that there was a lot of fucking around as part of that. My favourite example is King Eadwig of England, who nipped out of his own coronation to have a threesome with a mother and her daughter, who were apparently angling for one of them to be Queen.

But don't kid yourself that it would be any kind of lovey-dovey free-for-all - just like the feasting, if it happened, this kind of orgy would be all about power and dominance between different factions at court, especially if noble women were involved. One thing medieval courts would be super up-tight about would be bloodlines and succession, which makes it a bit awkward if you're expecting the Knights to "breed" any of the noblewomen (especially the Queen!) in a way that everyone could see and know about. It's not completely beyond the realm of possibility if the King was a really kinky type - and some of them probably were - but people definitely took lines of succession pretty seriously, so his wife carrying an illegitimate child (especially if lots of important people saw it happen) would be something that would have serious negative political consequences for the king, rather than being any kind of power move on his part. That said, that's the kind of thing you'd expect the knights to be doing back at their own court to fuck up the rival kingdom's dynasty.

But really, as a fan of both medieval history and medieval literature, I have zero patience for the idea that fiction has to be an accurate depiction of an era to be interesting or acceptable. Your story as conceived will be no less anachronistic than T.H. White, or Walter Scott, or even literal medieval writers like Thomas Malory or Chretien de Troyes, who were no strangers to historical inaccuracy. I knew a medieval literature professor who described all of the foundational Arthurian legends as basically being medieval fan fiction, including the fact that they were mostly romantic fantasies written primarily for horny women. It's a long and noble tradition, don't let people tell you it's bad just because it's inaccurate.

 

[ericrodman101]

Not sure about the two knights mounting their horses.....

Lots of torture machines, instruments and techniques in the middle ages to fall back on. There was one reprised in a James Bond film which was like a chastity belt which punched you in the groin. Any amount of machines to penetrate, edge, tease, stretch, poke, prod, violate, etc. Or just tie them to the rack and have your wicked way with them.

As for courtly love, it was pretty much open season in the castles and palaces - they must have all been rotten with the pox.

 

[Carnevil9]

Thank You!

I prefer historical accuracy, but only till it is having a positive impact on the story. And for a erotic story, I prefer it to be a little more fantastical anyways.

Exactly. Nobody will claim that "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is in the least bit historically accurate, yet it is an enormously successful and entertaining work of fiction.

Jules Verne wrote about trips to the moon and voyages under the sea, even though he had never done either, and made it up out of whole cloth. Yet they are still classics of literature. The key is to make it fun.

 

[sirhugs]

Exactly. Nobody will claim that "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is in the least bit historically accurate, yet it is an enormously successful and entertaining work of fiction.

Jules Verne wrote about trips to the moon and voyages under the sea, even though he had never done either, and made it up out of whole cloth. Yet they are still classics of literature. The key is to make it fun.

But the "Life of Brian" is 100% accurate, just like the Biblle.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

And the story just might be rejected because of the non-con aspect while the men are being raped by other men and even women. Does anyone really like getting forced to do anything the first time?

 

[FamilyCruiser]

Exactly. Nobody will claim that "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is in the least bit historically accurate, yet it is an enormously successful and entertaining work of fiction...

Galahad: <banging> Open the door!
<banging again> Open the door!
In the name of King Arthur, open the door!

The door creaks open, and Galahad falls onto the stone floor of the castle.
Looking up, he sees the faces of three young women dressed all in white.

Women: Hello!
Hello!
Hello!

Zoot: Welcome, gentle Sir Knight, to the Castle Anthrax!
Galahad: (confused) The Castle Anthrax??
Zoot: Yes... (disappointed) It's not a very good name, is it?
(brightening) Oh, But *we* are nice! And we will attend to your
every, *every* need!
Galahad: You are the keepers of the Holy Grail?
Zoot: The what?
Galahad: The Grail... it is here....
Zoot: Oh, but you are tired, and you must rest a while!
Midget! Creeper!
Other women: Yes, Sir Zoot!
Zoot: Prepare a *bed* for our guest.
Others: Yes, Sir Zoot. Thank you, Sir Zoot! Thank you, Sir Zoot! Thank you-
Zoot: Away, Away, vile etessence!
(to Galahad) The beds here are warm and soft...
And very, *very* big.
Galahad: (protesting) Well, look, I..I, uh--
Zoot: What is your name, handsome knight?
Galahad: Sir Galahad.... the Chaste.
Zoot: Mine is Zoot... just, Zoot.
Oh, but come! (starts to lead him upstairs)
Galahad: No, *please*! In god's name, show me the Grail!!
Zoot: Oh, you have suffered much! You are delerious!
Galahad: (urgently) No, look, I have seen it! It is here, it--
Zoot: Sir Galahad! You would not be so un-gallant as to refuse our
hospitality!
Galahad: (pause) Well, I--I, uh.... (looks at feet, fingers edge of shield)
Zoot: (leading him upstairs)
Oh... I'm afraid our life must seem very dull and quiet compared to
yours. We are but 8 score younge blondes and brunettes... all
between eighteen and 19-and-a-half... cut off in this castle with no
one to protect us! Oh... it is a lonely life. Bathing...
dressing... undressing... knitting exciting underwear.... We are
just not used to handsome knights!