Mathematicians too. (Sorry. Another AI thread)

[jsmiam]

A quote from a story, not behind a paywall I believe.

Tristan Buckmaster, an NYU mathematician who, alongside another academic, published research on the problem on Monday, said on Tuesday that OpenAI might have used his conversations with AI chatbots, including OpenAI's, to arrive at a solution. OpenAI said it couldn't rule out that "de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models⁠." (Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-caltech-ai-math-hackathon-backlash-anthropic-2026-9

To go a bit off track, one pet peeve of mine is why companies pressuring everyone to use AI trust the AI companies, to NOT someday enter the company’s industry as a competitor, using the data and trade secrets literally given to them, by people from that company itself.

AI as we know it is theft-based. That’s the real reason you should oppose it. Feel free to worry about heat and water and data centers and disruption and rules of three, whatever else. The real enemy is the theft. AI as it exists today wouldn’t exist without it.

I feel bad about this post. There wasn’t even one AI post on page one of the AH as of the moment in time I’m posting this.

 

[onehitwanda]

I don't know why this is surprising to anyone. For well over thirty years, the rule has been "if you write it on the Internet, it is public."

That said, OpenAI are thieving cunts and I hope they all turn green in hue.

 

[StillStunned]

I don't know why this is surprising to anyone. For well over thirty years, the rule has been "if you write it on the Internet, it is public."

That said, OpenAI are thieving cunts and I hope they all turn green in hue.

Google's T&C used to literally say "Any information you upload becomes free for us to use." I had to remind clients - much to their startlement - that running their confidential and proprietary documents through Google Translate wasn't the cleverest idea.

 

[crookedletter]

I heard a commentator on this subject say something to the effect of: asking AI for help to puzzle out your math problems (or anything of the sort, really), is a bit like going to the gym and asking AI to lift weights for you.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

It’s so fucking creepy and slimy to feel you’re constantly surveiled and used and monetized whenever you turn on a computer or pick up a smart phone.

I noticed the other day that Whatsapp makes you agree to let them have access to all your contacts’ physical addresses. What is this - are they going to be writing letters to us all?

Anyway, I find searching for anything on the internet these days is basically unworkable. You can go to specific websites if you know them but otherwise anything worthwhile is buried under a tsunami of AI-generated crap. Well done world, well done tech companies!

The internet was fun when it was a minor distraction.

It’s not fun as an enclosure for a bunch of immoral weirdos from California.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

That said, OpenAI are thieving cunts and I hope they all turn green in hue.

Their punishment is to become elves?

 

[onehitwanda]

Their punishment is to become elves?

kobolds.

 

[BeechLeaf]

Number mining, and digging out misshaped polyhedra.

AI has its uses: for protein folding, it's saving lives. But letting it loose on mathematics? We've already got the problem with the claimed proof of the abc conjecture: if human mathematicians can't understand it, do we really have knowledge? If AI generates ideas, even proofs, aren't they just as inaccessible until we get the reasoning into human form?

 

[AwkwardlySet]

kobolds.

Ha! Everyone knows kobolds are pink.

But maybe they could be mantis-people?

 

[AwkwardlySet]

AI as we know it is theft-based. That’s the real reason you should oppose it. Feel free to worry about heat and water and data centers and disruption and rules of three, whatever else. The real enemy is the theft. AI as it exists today wouldn’t exist without it.

While theft is certainly one of the more important reasons for my general anti-AI position, it's not number one or even number two. Acknowledging all the wrongs with AI (and all the pros) is important, but I guess everyone has their own priorities.

 

[SmilingLez]

A quote from a story, not behind a paywall I believe.

Tristan Buckmaster, an NYU mathematician who, alongside another academic, published research on the problem on Monday, said on Tuesday that OpenAI might have used his conversations with AI chatbots, including OpenAI's, to arrive at a solution. OpenAI said it couldn't rule out that "de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models⁠." (Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-caltech-ai-math-hackathon-backlash-anthropic-2026-9

The two comments are quite interesting

1
they're part of a vast harvesting ring that runs through openai, mit, DoD/DoW, Samsung and far beyond. They will quickly harvest anything even related to certain topics, claim it and start fossilizing it into vague celebrity science articles and networks, before they even understand it.

2
It gets worse..
So they host an event involving LLMs and then complain when a major one gets involved and even offers up a major source of free tokens. What were they hoping to accomplish here? Idiots.

 

[anthrodisiac]

kobolds.

Can I have this punishment? Asking for a friend.

 

[PennyThompson]

Can I have this punishment? Asking for a friend.