Masks and Motivation

dr_mabeuse said:
In a Halloween story that never got finished, I had a woman crash Halloween parties in a mask that entirely hid her face. She would then proceed to have the most casual sex with anyone she found interesting, knowing that her true identity was hidden.

I started to wonder about this. Assuming you had your pick of interested parties, could you do something like that? If you were assured that your identity wouldn't be known, could you hide behind a mask and have casual body-sex, or would the loss of identity take all the pleasure and meaning out of it?

I can't say I would enjoy it, unless of course it was a means to contact with someone I actually knew. That could be interesting, not just the sex itself but the lingering intrigue of knowing what s/he didn't and seeing that person in a wholly different context.

At any rate, I can see that you clearly gave your attention to the right story. That's a stunner you've got up, Dr. M.

Shanglan
 
This thread reminded me of a scene from a movie I watched recently about a young lady who goes on a quest to engage in the ultimate physical encounter, completely void of any emotional attachment what-so-ever. At one point she even tries to stage her own rape just so that she can be used and thrown away.

Anyway, the scene is a dream sequence that has the young lady positioned through a hole in a wall, bent over. Her head sticks out into a small room where she is having a conversation with some guy (I think he's her pimp or something,) and on the other side men are lined up, playing with their bits while waiting to take turns with her ass and pussy.

If left as a fantasy, the idea of anonymous sex can be a real turn on for me, Doc. I doubt I would ever have the urge to take it beyond that, though. Maybe a few years ago when I had a few more wild oats to sow (if that phrase can be used referencing a female.)
 
sincerely_helene said:
This thread reminded me of a scene from a movie I watched recently about a young lady who goes on a quest to engage in the ultimate physical encounter, completely void of any emotional attachment what-so-ever. At one point she even tries to stage her own rape just so that she can be used and thrown away.

Anyway, the scene is a dream sequence that has the young lady positioned through a hole in a wall, bent over. Her head sticks out into a small room where she is having a conversation with some guy (I think he's her pimp or something,) and on the other side men are lined up, playing with their bits while waiting to take turns with her ass and pussy.

If left as a fantasy, the idea of anonymous sex can be a real turn on for me, Doc. I doubt I would ever have the urge to take it beyond that, though. Maybe a few years ago when I had a few more wild oats to sow (if that phrase can be used referencing a female.)

I believe that most straight men would have no problem participating in something like that and would wonder why some might think them strange. Let me hasten to add that most men would vastly prefer a meaningful relationship with somebody they are in love with. Even so, unless they have some reason to avoid sex, they would have no hesitation about fucking the woman in question, taking precautions, of course.

Usually, men have no trouble at all enjoying purely physical sex with a woman they have never seen before and will never see again. That is why female prostitutes usually do allright but male prostitutes, except for those who cater to gay men, do not.

Properly speaking, a woman would not be a SOWER of wild oats because she could only be the SOWEE. Even so, the term has lost most of its original meaning.
 
sincerely_helene said:
If left as a fantasy, the idea of anonymous sex can be a real turn on for me, Doc. I doubt I would ever have the urge to take it beyond that, though.
Helene sums up my feelings on the subject very well. And even if my face is covered and no one else knows what I'm doing, I'll still know.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I believe that most straight men would have no problem participating in something like that and would wonder why some might think them strange. Let me hasten to add that most men would vastly prefer a meaningful relationship with somebody they are in love with. Even so, unless they have some reason to avoid sex, they would have no hesitation about fucking the woman in question, taking precautions, of course.

Usually, men have no trouble at all enjoying purely physical sex with a woman they have never seen before and will never see again. That is why female prostitutes usually do allright but male prostitutes, except for those who cater to gay men, do not.

Properly speaking, a woman would not be a SOWER of wild oats because she could only be the SOWEE. Even so, the term has lost most of its original meaning.

Yeah, it was bugging me so I looked it up and it seems as though the term has evolved from impregnation, to simply being promiscious.

Anyway, I agree that it's more typical for men to want to engage in meaningless sex, but I don't view that as an absolute by any means. Not that I'm proud of it, but there has been more than one occasion in the past where I have kicked a partner out before breakfast, and avoided answering my phone for a few days afterward in case it might be them.

Sometimes, girls just wanna have fun, too.

P.S. The reason we don't pay men for meaningless sex is because we never have to.
 
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I knew there was a reason I reponded to you across half the world! :)
 
sincerely_helene said:
Yeah, it was bugging me so I looked it up and it seems as though the term has evolved from impregnation, to simply being promiscious.

Anyway, I agree that it's more typical for men to want to engage in meaningless sex, but I don't view that as an absolute by any means. Not that I'm proud of it, but there has been more than one occasion in the past where I have kicked a partner out before breakfast, and avoided answering my phone for a few days afterward in case it might be them.

Sometimes, girls just wanna have fun, too.

Now, I would not have done that. I would not have kicked her out, and would have probably taken her out to breakfast. I probably would have called her later that day or the next day also. Even though the sex might have been superficial, I would have wanted to have more of it in the future. As I have often said, superficial sex is much better than no sex.

P.S. I am well aware that women don't have to pay men for sex. Almost all women can get all they want, although not always exactly what they want.
 
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Once upon a time, that would have held an appeal for me. One of the fantasies I used to pull out of the box in me head quite often years ago was one of having sex in a pitch black room where neither of us spoke. The participant didn't matter, just the sex.

Out of habit, I started to think my answer would be yes when I first read your question, but the more I think on it the more I realize anon sex doesn't hold any appeal anymore. I'm just not interested.
 
Actually, having thought further on the subject, (sorry to be such a thread hog today,) I don't think the promiscuity aspect even really enters into the equation as much as I expressed earlier.

Basically, I'm a pretty passionate person in most things I do. When I fuck someone, even if it is someone random I don't intend on seeing again, I express so much of that passion and desire through my face, not just my body. If masked, I would feel I'm not able to give of myself fully. It would be comparable to wearing a chastity belt of sorts, and I think I would be torturing myself more than my partner.

Also, I admit to being a real attention whore. I like hearing men tell me I'm pretty, and knowing my face is part of the attraction is important to me. Masked, I would probably spend the whole encounter wondering if he would have laid a hand on me under different circumstances.

I don't think that makes me superficial, though. Put the mask on the man instead and I'm game! :nana:
 
sincerely_helene said:
Actually, having thought further on the subject, (sorry to be such a thread hog today,) I don't think the promiscuity aspect even really enters into the equation as much as I expressed earlier.

Basically, I'm a pretty passionate person in most things I do. When I fuck someone, even if it is someone random I don't intend on seeing again, I express so much of that passion and desire through my face, not just my body. If masked, I would feel I'm not able to give of myself fully. It would be comparable to wearing a chastity belt of sorts, and I think I would be torturing myself more than my partner.

Also, I admit to being a real attention whore. I like hearing men tell me I'm pretty, and knowing my face is part of the attraction is important to me. Masked, I would probably spend the whole encounter wondering if he would have laid a hand on me under different circumstances.

I don't think that makes me superficial, though. Put the mask on the man instead and I'm game! :nana:

Don't worry about being a thread hog. Eventually, this one will sort of peter out, and that will happen whether you have five posts on it or fifty.

I would also rather not be wearing masks. Even with the most casual sex, even with a woman I have picked up in a bar, and never expect to see again; even if we don't even know each other's names, I still like a certain amount of foreplay, including kissing her face. I would also want to eat her out, and my mask would get in the way. However, if the masks had to stay in place, on me or her or both of us, I would accept that too.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
Don't worry about being a thread hog. Eventually, this one will sort of peter out, and that will happen whether you have five posts on it or fifty.

Hey Box! You're a fortune teller!
 
IHey, Box. You don't have to apologize for me when it comes down to men's profligacy. Loving sex is nice, but so is every other kind as far as I'm concerned, and I think what keeps most men loyal is mostly fear and lack of opportunity rather than a crying need for sex with a loving partner. After all, prostitutes are in the business of selling sex, not affection.

I'm with Dar. I think masks make for some terribly erotic situations. Personally, I've always wanted to spend some time as a woman's fuck-dummy, masked or not. I'd love to see what she'd do with me - what she'd do with a man's body if there were no one else around to see.

Probably make me massage her feet. Or use me as a lawn jockey.

I had another mask scene in another story. A woman was paid a large sum of money to entice a man to orgasm while they both wore masks. They were separated by a glass barrier, so they couldn't touch or hear each other, and it was stipulated that they'd never know one another's identity. She was dressed, wearing a blank, Jason-style goalie mask, and he was naked, sitting in a chair wearing a rubber devil mask. It was her job to get him hard enough that he could masturbate to climax in ten minutes.

I was playing with the idea of her discovering her own sexual power over the man, or men in genral, by her ability to arouse them. I imagined the mask would give her enough anonymity so she would be able to undress and masturbate in front of him without being self-conscious, even though I didn't really believe it would. I have the sneaking suspicion that all of us would be just as self-conscious with a mask on as without one. Our sense of self goes a lot deeper than our faces.

Cant - the mask-wearing woman goes into a party full of strangers, so no one's going to recognize her by her mannerisms or body. The idea was: what would total anonymity do to you? How much of your sexual behavior is determined by social pressures?
 
Hey, Doc, I wasn't apoligizing any more than I apologize for standing up when I pee or for having shirts with the buttons on the right and the holes on the left. That's just the way things are, the facts of life, the nature of the beast.

I agree that the thing that keeps most men loyal is the fear of getting caught and the lack of easy opportunity. The two are closely related so I refer to them as "the thing" rather than using the plural. Some people, especially women, might say that men have penty of opportunity, that many women are promiscuous and available. That might be so but it would mean risking getting caught and I wouldn't want to do that. If I were some place where I was unknown and a woman approached me and said she wanted to fuck and we should go to her apartment. That is what I mean by "easy" opportunity, a sure thing. Even so, I probably wouldn't go. That kind of situation just does not happen to fat, bald old men such as I, and the woman would probably have robbery or something worse in mind. In any event, I would fear getting caught.

That is now, of course. When I was unmarried, I wouldn't have been afraid of getting caught and I would have been more daring or reckless. Of course, easy opportunities didn't happen then either, and the difficult opportunities were to difficult to recognize, if they existed at all.
 
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Wow. I was looking at it from the perspective of a single person, not from the perspective of someone who was married and afraid of getting caught. I withdraw all past comments.
 
sincerely_helene said:
Wow. I was looking at it from the perspective of a single person, not from the perspective of someone who was married and afraid of getting caught. I withdraw all past comments.

Well, that's not quite it. I didn't mean to make it sound like men are just always looking for a sneaky opportunity to get some on the side. We're as possessive and loyal and jealous as women are. It's just that men are entirely more capable of enjoying casual sex than most women seem to be.

The people who say, "Sex without love isn't worth the trouble" aren't speaking for me, that's all. I'm more of the "bad sex is a contradiction in terms" type.
 
I'm more of the "bad sex is a contradiction in terms" type.

The only bad sex I ever had was sex I didn't have.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
"Women have only one Halloween Costume. It is a slut. You may be thinking, Wait, I've seen women dressed as sexy witches, sexy cats, sexy hoboes.... But I assure you they were all dressed as sluts dressed as witches, cats, and hoboes. For us, Halloween is solely an opportunity to wear the whorish clothes we chastise true-blue sluts for wearing year-round."

--Stephanie Weir in the October 2002 issue of Esquire
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Well, that's not quite it. I didn't mean to make it sound like men are just always looking for a sneaky opportunity to get some on the side. We're as possessive and loyal and jealous as women are. It's just that men are entirely more capable of enjoying casual sex than most women seem to be.

The people who say, "Sex without love isn't worth the trouble" aren't speaking for me, that's all. I'm more of the "bad sex is a contradiction in terms" type.

I agree 100%, Doc. That is what I have been saying all along and I believe it would apply to almost all men, including Gays. To copy somebody's line: "Sex: When it is good, it is VERY, VERY GOOD. When it is bad, it's still pretty good. :kiss:
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I agree 100%, Doc. That is what I have been saying all along and I believe it would apply to almost all men, including Gays. To copy somebody's line: "Sex: When it is good, it is VERY, VERY GOOD. When it is bad, it's still pretty good. :kiss:


Just like pizza!


It doesn't work that way for me, though. I've had bad sex and when it's bad, it's pretty bad.
 
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