Masculine cocksucker problems...

I think a lot of guys have answered in this same way, but I'll piggy back and throw in my 2 cents.

In the online world there seems to be 2 major camps and then several smaller camps.

The 2 major camps are 1. Guys that like to dominate another man. 2. Guys that like to be dominated by other men.

If you're looking online and display what they consider dominate or submissive traits then they seem to take it to the extreme.

So "I just want to suck without reciprocation" means "sissy cum slut".

In the real world those camps aren't as big as they seem online.

I am a masculine man, I'm bi sexual, I prefer other masculine men. I am versatile. I love sucking, being fingered, being fucked and making out. In the heat of the moment I may say or allow my partner to say some crazy shit to me. For me however it is mutual.

If you " love fucking my man pussy" then fully expect me to "love fucking your man pussy" etc...

It took longer than it should have for me to realize that what I was seeing on the web was not accurately representative of the real world. Once I did figure that out I started finding my type more regularly and started to really enjoy my man play dates.
 
It took longer than it should have for me to realize that what I was seeing on the web was not accurately representative of the real world
I'm not sure what you mean by “on the web” vs. in ”the real world.” I'm on the web— see? here I am— here you are! — and (see my comment above) I refuse reciprocation. I'm in no position to give percentages of who prefers what, but in the “real” world that I also inhabit, I make it clear from the start that my penis stays out of the action. Most guys I've been with accept that, but for those who don't, it's deal off.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by “on the web” vs. in ”the real world.” I'm on the web— see? here I am— here you are! — and (see my comment above) I refuse reciprocation. I'm in no position to give percentages of who prefers what, but in the “real” world that I also inhabit, I make it clear from the start that my penis stays out of the action. Most guys I've been with accept that, but for those who don't, it's deal off.
If you can't figure that out then I certainly can't explain it to you. Run along and be offended now.
 
I only ever meet up with men to suck their cocks, and I'm often told it's really strange that an extremely masculine guy doesn't want any reciprocation. I don't see why this should be so strange.

The other thing... and my real complaint... almost all the guys I've met really get off on the idea of degrading me and making me submit... specifically because I'm masculine! I haven't sucked cock in months, because... when I meet men this is usually the kind of thing I get...

The last time, the guy told me I had to sit on my hands the whole time, pinned up against a wall, and then held my head and hate-fucked my throat hard while telling me how good it felt to make me his bitch. The only things he wanted to hear were me begging him to slam my throat or how desperate I was to for his cum... and then had me beg him to face fuck me again with his cum all over my face...

This is kind of my usual experience... I'm sucking cock while a man calls me his slut or whatever, and he forced control over the whole thing... Is this just how this goes for masculine guys who don't want reciprocation?

My problem isn't that I mind being used like this, if I did I wouldn't keep doing it! I enjoy feeling slutty and if I'm in the mood I love having a man act powerfully and use me, face fucking me and making me feel like I am a toy for his pleasure... that whole scenario is a huge turn on, but there are times... a lot of times, really... that I really want to suck cock but don't even look to meet someone because I want to slowly, sensually taste and tease a nice cock...

I'd suck cock A LOT more if I could find men that want me to really enjoy sucking their cock and would just lean back and let me act like the slut they love to tell me I am!!

One time... just once, I hooked up with a guy who wanted to relax and let me make out with his cock... it was so sexy and slutty and... I talked dirty and moaned and... it was the sloppiest and wettest blowjob I can imagine, and... I've never had such an amazing, intense sexual experience!!

It's also the only time I've ever even thought of giving in and putting the possibility of more than a blowjob out there. My ass is always strictly off limits and I made it clear to this guy beforehand when he asked (and he was fine with that), but... I got so turned on and felt so sexy and slutty devouring his dick that I asked if he still wanted my ass. When he said yes, I begged him to fuck me... he started fingering me and my moaning with him in my mouth pushed him over, so it didn't happen, but... that's how amazing being able to really enjoy sucking cock was!! It was so good, so sexy, so slutty... for the only time, I wasn't just willing to let a man fuck my ass for the first time, but I was literally desperate for it and begging him to fuck me bare and breed me!!! I felt so sexy and slutty I wanted him to fuck me like a real slut!!!

Why does being masculine mean I'm not allowed to moan and tease and be sexy while I swallow??? I want so, so badly to have another experience that sexy!! Why can't I find men who want me to really treat their cocks right??
not my style and would not like that way of being treated.
 
not my style and would not like that way of being treated.
You could take the aggression from guys you are sucking as a form of role play. I would prefer a guy that just wants me to lay back while he makes oral love to my thick cock. If a guy wanted the being used experience I can understand that and wouldn't mind doing it. I have to admit I like to force my cock down a newbies throat at least once. I had a guy that wanted me to just lay back and let him have fun. I really enjoyed the wet sloppy blow jobs he gave. What a guy likes is an individual taste. Who can explain a personal taste?
 
You could take the aggression from guys you are sucking as a form of role play. I would prefer a guy that just wants me to lay back while he makes oral love to my thick cock. If a guy wanted the being used experience I can understand that and wouldn't mind doing it. I have to admit I like to force my cock down a newbies throat at least once. I had a guy that wanted me to just lay back and let him have fun. I really enjoyed the wet sloppy blow jobs he gave. What a guy likes is an individual taste. Who can explain a personal taste?
I am a newbi!❤️❤️❤️❤️
 
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t's the implied dominance, actual rough handling not necessary, that's so fucking hot. The ritual assertion of status, such a blissful cascade.
If you take it as a form of role play and not a personal attack I think it would be much easier to handle?
 
Not reading or listening is the big problem.
I do have to add that to me some terms are not clear, so I ask. But then I make known that I ask because I am not sure. For example, strict bottom. I have heard people calling themselves bottom who do not mind getting their cock touched or even sucked. So I ask.
But I just try to be clear in stating I would like versa play, also in an MMF.
I prefer a total bottom as I am a total top so the roles are clear. Many bottoms prefer a total top. So the expatiations don't change mid stream.
 
I prefer a total bottom as I am a total top so the roles are clear. Many bottoms prefer a total top. So the expatiations don't change mid stream.
Exactly. This shouldn't be that complicated.
If I meet up with a man that says he is a total top, I assume that he isn't interested in my dick. And that's how I like it.
But so many advertise themselves as total tops, then they turn into cocksuckers.
Gross.
If someone wants that, they aren't a total top, and they need to say that they are versatile.
 
I would think most but definitely not all would want a total sissy.
I’ve felt feminine all my life and want to be treated that way.
 
I only ever meet up with men to suck their cocks, and I'm often told it's really strange that an extremely masculine guy doesn't want any reciprocation. I don't see why this should be so strange.

The other thing... and my real complaint... almost all the guys I've met really get off on the idea of degrading me and making me submit... specifically because I'm masculine! I haven't sucked cock in months, because... when I meet men this is usually the kind of thing I get...

The last time, the guy told me I had to sit on my hands the whole time, pinned up against a wall, and then held my head and hate-fucked my throat hard while telling me how good it felt to make me his bitch. The only things he wanted to hear were me begging him to slam my throat or how desperate I was to for his cum... and then had me beg him to face fuck me again with his cum all over my face...

This is kind of my usual experience... I'm sucking cock while a man calls me his slut or whatever, and he forced control over the whole thing... Is this just how this goes for masculine guys who don't want reciprocation?

My problem isn't that I mind being used like this, if I did I wouldn't keep doing it! I enjoy feeling slutty and if I'm in the mood I love having a man act powerfully and use me, face fucking me and making me feel like I am a toy for his pleasure... that whole scenario is a huge turn on, but there are times... a lot of times, really... that I really want to suck cock but don't even look to meet someone because I want to slowly, sensually taste and tease a nice cock...

I'd suck cock A LOT more if I could find men that want me to really enjoy sucking their cock and would just lean back and let me act like the slut they love to tell me I am!!

One time... just once, I hooked up with a guy who wanted to relax and let me make out with his cock... it was so sexy and slutty and... I talked dirty and moaned and... it was the sloppiest and wettest blowjob I can imagine, and... I've never had such an amazing, intense sexual experience!!

It's also the only time I've ever even thought of giving in and putting the possibility of more than a blowjob out there. My ass is always strictly off limits and I made it clear to this guy beforehand when he asked (and he was fine with that), but... I got so turned on and felt so sexy and slutty devouring his dick that I asked if he still wanted my ass. When he said yes, I begged him to fuck me... he started fingering me and my moaning with him in my mouth pushed him over, so it didn't happen, but... that's how amazing being able to really enjoy sucking cock was!! It was so good, so sexy, so slutty... for the only time, I wasn't just willing to let a man fuck my ass for the first time, but I was literally desperate for it and begging him to fuck me bare and breed me!!! I felt so sexy and slutty I wanted him to fuck me like a real slut!!!

Why does being masculine mean I'm not allowed to moan and tease and be sexy while I swallow??? I want so, so badly to have another experience that sexy!! Why can't I find men who want me to really treat their cocks right??
I absolutely get it…the BI ‘male’ world seems to have a lot of guys who believe that they have to show they are some ALPHA Male to offset their Bi tendencies …it’s actually funny…I was a D1 wrestler in college…have always remained solid and in shape…and I am ABSOLUTELY a bottom…LOVE IT…and I would hook up with ‘some’ guys who, once we got naked and started getting it on…they would try to push me around, choke me…try to be rough😂🤣…100% of them turned me off immediately and I could destroy all of them!…but, I simply grabbed them and said…”AS I STATED IN MY EMAILS…I am NOT into any rough sex…period”…then and only then did they calm down and just get into it…some I met again, some were too weird and never saw them again, but still had fun and had an orgasm…NOW…to YOU

I have met up with two different guys over the years that ONLY wanted to give me a blow job…in BOTH cases…they wanted me to come over to their place during the afternoon from work, while I was still in my suit and tie…both of them asked me to just sit on a chair or couch,… then they would either just unzip my pants or pull my pants down…still in shirt and tie…and they would just give me a blow job. In both cases, again, via our earlier email discussion prior to meeting…they both told me they didn’t want me to do anything to them. I LOVED IT!…I would have enjoyed them both fucking me and cuming in my ass…but neither wanted to do more than just suck on my cock until I came and both of them swallowed my loads.
EVERYONE knows what they enjoy…what turns them on…in both of these cases, I believed that it was a win win for both of us. AND FURTHER?…both of these guys gave me the greatest oral sex I have ever received in my life…clearly they both loved it and had become experts!!…and both were able to take my cock into their throats …it was fantastic.

So…I get where you are coming from…but A LOT of knowing what you are getting into is via email prior to the hook up…that goes for the men, women and couples I hooked up with…100% were great experiences because we all knew the expectations going in…and in some cases, I’d reminded them of the expectations 👍🏻
 
A LOT of knowing what you are getting into is via email prior to the hook up…that goes for the men, women and couples I hooked up with…100% were great experiences because we all knew the expectations going in…
This! What I've been saying. Make it clear before you meet up what both of you want— and don't want. If you don't match, move on. Don't try to “change their mind.” These desires are much deeper than “mind”
 
This! What I've been saying. Make it clear before you meet up what both of you want— and don't want. If you don't match, move on. Don't try to “change their mind.” These desires are much deeper than “mind”
Exactly…no one to blame but yourself if you don’t discuss prior…AND…if it deviates from the agreement …SPEAK UP!
 
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