Masculine cocksucker problems...

[RobLivesInTexas]

It's nice to hear there are men out there (or on here) that want a sexy blowjob even if I am masculine!! It's... hopeful??

Any thoughts on how to write up my profile to find more of these men and fewer hard face fucking guys??

First of all, where are you posting your profile? Cruising app? Doublelist?
I would be honest with your desires and preferences. Nothing irritates me more that meeting someone who is not what they presented themselves to be. Not only in appearance, but also in sexual preferences and interests. I've been up front about not wanting to be face fucked. And if a man starts to do that, I quickly take charge and control him. And if he gets abusive or degrading, which I hate, that's the end of the session. His loss! I have great oral skills, and I love to suck to completion. Being choosey means I may suck fewer cocks, but my experiences will be a lot more satisfying for everyone involved.

 

[T_2K_59]

Who is your candidate pool?

I feel like this problem would go away if you met actual uncloseted gay guys. You didn't say, but the impression I'm getting from the original post and some of the replies is that these feeders probably have a lot of internalized homophobia, and are probably straight-passing, closeted, probably married, etc. Hell, maybe they're actually straight and hate themselves because they can't get women to suck them off.

Among uncloseted gay men, nobody thinks there's anything strange at all about a masculine man going down on men.

I mostly fit that catagory, "straight" (Bi), closeted, married, the wife doesn't like to suck me, but I'm not homophobic, and I don't hate myself for thinking that there is nothing strange to have another guy suck me off (masculine or feminine). You are right about your assessment, it all depends on the guy that is being sucked off, maybe if VivingInToAlot just states it up front what is expected and how he wants to be treated, it might go better, and if it gets out of hand, then stop and walk away, good luck to you finding a rescpectful recipient

 

[Jarrbo]

For me, sexual contact, M/F, M/M, etc., is a kind of role-playing game. A game whose script is written by the people involved. We talk, exchange views, and desires. The act itself is then shaped from this. If someone says they like being dominated, I know which direction we can go. If someone is romantic, just touch and eye contact will trigger an explosion of passion.
This lengthy explanation is meant to show that we MUST CLEARLY COMMUNICATE WHAT WE EXPECT. If someone doesn't accept this, they can go away!
However, we need to be able to distinguish, for example, submission from coercion. I can't imagine forcing someone to perform sexual acts against their will.

 

[J1biboi]

I only ever meet up with men to suck their cocks, and I'm often told it's really strange that an extremely masculine guy doesn't want any reciprocation. I don't see why this should be so strange.

The other thing... and my real complaint... almost all the guys I've met really get off on the idea of degrading me and making me submit... specifically because I'm masculine! I haven't sucked cock in months, because... when I meet men this is usually the kind of thing I get...

The last time, the guy told me I had to sit on my hands the whole time, pinned up against a wall, and then held my head and hate-fucked my throat hard while telling me how good it felt to make me his bitch. The only things he wanted to hear were me begging him to slam my throat or how desperate I was to for his cum... and then had me beg him to face fuck me again with his cum all over my face...

This is kind of my usual experience... I'm sucking cock while a man calls me his slut or whatever, and he forced control over the whole thing... Is this just how this goes for masculine guys who don't want reciprocation?

My problem isn't that I mind being used like this, if I did I wouldn't keep doing it! I enjoy feeling slutty and if I'm in the mood I love having a man act powerfully and use me, face fucking me and making me feel like I am a toy for his pleasure... that whole scenario is a huge turn on, but there are times... a lot of times, really... that I really want to suck cock but don't even look to meet someone because I want to slowly, sensually taste and tease a nice cock...

I'd suck cock A LOT more if I could find men that want me to really enjoy sucking their cock and would just lean back and let me act like the slut they love to tell me I am!!

One time... just once, I hooked up with a guy who wanted to relax and let me make out with his cock... it was so sexy and slutty and... I talked dirty and moaned and... it was the sloppiest and wettest blowjob I can imagine, and... I've never had such an amazing, intense sexual experience!!

It's also the only time I've ever even thought of giving in and putting the possibility of more than a blowjob out there. My ass is always strictly off limits and I made it clear to this guy beforehand when he asked (and he was fine with that), but... I got so turned on and felt so sexy and slutty devouring his dick that I asked if he still wanted my ass. When he said yes, I begged him to fuck me... he started fingering me and my moaning with him in my mouth pushed him over, so it didn't happen, but... that's how amazing being able to really enjoy sucking cock was!! It was so good, so sexy, so slutty... for the only time, I wasn't just willing to let a man fuck my ass for the first time, but I was literally desperate for it and begging him to fuck me bare and breed me!!! I felt so sexy and slutty I wanted him to fuck me like a real slut!!!

Why does being masculine mean I'm not allowed to moan and tease and be sexy while I swallow??? I want so, so badly to have another experience that sexy!! Why can't I find men who want me to really treat their cocks right??

I've never understood the whole humiliation, degradation thing. If someone is sucking my cock, I'm going to be nice to them and I would expect the same if I were sucking their cock!

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

I've never understood the whole humiliation, degradation thing. If someone is sucking my cock, I'm going to be nice to them and I would expect the same if I were sucking their cock!

I agree! To me, sucking a cock is doing each other a favor. One man receives pleasure and an orgasm. The other receives pleasure by giving pleasure. And, if some of the other threads indicate correctly, some cock suckers have their own orgasms just from sucking a dick. When someone is sucking me, I'll be somewhat vocal and encourage them while I kick back and receive cock and ball worship. And when I'm sucking a cock, I'm in control. While I enjoy it immensely, I know that he is one the receiving end of my oral skills. I think the whole degradation/humiliation thing is a form of sadism/masochism. The man being sucked is really after power and control, with an orgasm attached. The sucker is allowing, even encouraging the humiliation. While some people obviously like that, the whole idea is completely foreign to me.

 

[Whispor]

I have no interest in being degraded, either. I just want the big cock in front of me, preferably me on my knees and him sitting down and scooted toward the edge of the chair so that his (big) balls are also accessible to my mouth and tongue for hours... I wouldn't mind his hand touching my head, or grabbing the back of my neck to "keep me from escaping" when he's ejaculating inside my mouth. Moans and sighs would urge me on, but I'd rather he not say a word - not even to warn me of his impending climax.

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

I have no interest in being degraded, either. I just want the big cock in front of me, preferably me on my knees and him sitting down and scooted toward the edge of the chair so that his (big) balls are also accessible to my mouth and tongue for hours... I wouldn't mind his hand touching my head, or grabbing the back of my neck to "keep me from escaping" when he's ejaculating inside my mouth. Moans and sighs would urge me on, but I'd rather he not say a word - not even to warn me of his impending climax.

Now that's my kind of scenario. And I'm so glad you don't neglect his balls. It amazes me how many cock suckers I have to tell to suck and lick my balls. It's like they forget that a man even has balls.

 

[BillyWalrus]

Now that's my kind of scenario. And I'm so glad you don't neglect his balls. It amazes me how many cock suckers I have to tell to suck and lick my balls. It's like they forget that a man even has balls.

It's lovely to tenderly lick and suck the balls containing the sperm that you are about to swallow. I always give them the attention they deserve so she will give me a nice load of hot cream.

 

[BiCuriousWriter]

Sounds like you ned to be very clear on what you want. I call myself vers and don't like a clear dom/sub relation bit can steer. Never understood degrading and if reciprocity is not your thing I wouldn't mind you just giving.

 

[Jeph77]

It's lovely to tenderly lick and suck the balls containing the sperm that you are about to swallow. I always give them the attention they deserve so she will give me a nice load of hot cream.

I agree. It's with a certain reverence to lavish them with licks and kisses.

 

[ZacharyFagg]

Now that's my kind of scenario. And I'm so glad you don't neglect his balls. It amazes me how many cock suckers I have to tell to suck and lick my balls. It's like they forget that a man even has balls.

I love sucking and licking balls. A good cocksucker never neglects a mans balls!

 

[ZacharyFagg]

I've never understood the whole humiliation, degradation thing. If someone is sucking my cock, I'm going to be nice to them and I would expect the same if I were sucking their cock!

I agree! To me, sucking a cock is doing each other a favor. One man receives pleasure and an orgasm. The other receives pleasure by giving pleasure. And, if some of the other threads indicate correctly, some cock suckers have their own orgasms just from sucking a dick. When someone is sucking me, I'll be somewhat vocal and encourage them while I kick back and receive cock and ball worship. And when I'm sucking a cock, I'm in control. While I enjoy it immensely, I know that he is one the receiving end of my oral skills. I think the whole degradation/humiliation thing is a form of sadism/masochism. The man being sucked is really after power and control, with an orgasm attached. The sucker is allowing, even encouraging the humiliation. While some people obviously like that, the whole idea is completely foreign to me.

It is definitely a form of sadism/masochism. I'm a total masochist and I love degradation, humiliation and pain. I'm naturally submissive to men, and I love feeling dominated. It's a serious turn on, and it just makes me drip.
I'd rather be treated roughly than tenderly.
But it's definitely not for everyone, and someone shouldn't dominate someone else unless they make it clear that they want that.
A guy should never assume just because another man likes to give head that he is into that.

 

[ZacharyFagg]

I mostly fit that catagory, "straight" (Bi), closeted, married, the wife doesn't like to suck me, but I'm not homophobic, and I don't hate myself for thinking that there is nothing strange to have another guy suck me off (masculine or feminine). You are right about your assessment, it all depends on the guy that is being sucked off, maybe if VivingInToAlot just states it up front what is expected and how he wants to be treated, it might go better, and if it gets out of hand, then stop and walk away, good luck to you finding a rescpectful recipient

Sadly, one can state up front what they want, but alot of the guys on those apps don't read profiles, or respect people's preferences. I clearly state that I am a bottom, but I constantly get messages from guys who are begging me to fuck them. I've even met up with guys who claim to be dominant tops, but when we get together want to bottom, and beg me to top. It's ridiculous.

 

[BillyWalrus]

Sadly, one can state up front what they want, but alot of the guys on those apps don't read profiles, or respect people's preferences. I clearly state that I am a bottom, but I constantly get messages from guys who are begging me to fuck them. I've even met up with guys who claim to be dominant tops, but when we get together want to bottom, and beg me to top. It's ridiculous.

The absolute truth. When my trans gf was on Tinder looking for foreign guys to top, she explicitly said in her profile what she was looking for.

Most guys read the profile but some did not. With one guy they went out and had an expensive dinner and then came back to the guy's hotel room. The guy wanted to fuck her and she told him no, didn't he read her profile? She said that she was going to fuck him. He refused and they argued back and forth until she just left and went home.

Read the profile!

 

[ZacharyFagg]

The absolute truth. When my trans gf was on Tinder looking for foreign guys to top, she explicitly said in her profile what she was looking for.

Most guys read the profile but some did not. With one guy they went out and had an expensive dinner and then came back to the guy's hotel room. The guy wanted to fuck her and she told him no, didn't he read her profile? She said that she was going to fuck him. He refused and they argued back and forth until she just left and went home.

Read the profile!

That's crazy! I know several girls who only bottom, but they meet guys who beg them to top! They actually complain that porn has made every guy out there think that all girls love to top!
But yes, I sure wish they'd read the profile.
I've had similar incidents where I think I'm meeting a top, and he starts begging me to fuck him.

 

[BillyWalrus]

That's crazy! I know several girls who only bottom, but they meet guys who beg them to top! They actually complain that porn has made every guy out there think that all girls love to top!
But yes, I sure wish they'd read the profile.
I've had similar incidents where I think I'm meeting a top, and he starts begging me to fuck him.

A trans woman like my gf is not the norm for sure. Of course when I met her in person, I knew exactly what would happen lol.

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

It is definitely a form of sadism/masochism. I'm a total masochist and I love degradation, humiliation and pain. I'm naturally submissive to men, and I love feeling dominated. It's a serious turn on, and it just makes me drip.
I'd rather be treated roughly than tenderly.
But it's definitely not for everyone, and someone shouldn't dominate someone else unless they make it clear that they want that.
A guy should never assume just because another man likes to give head that he is into that.

Folks should definitely read the profiles. But many profiles aren't clear, or the photos don't match the information. I'll see a profile with ass pics, then he says he's a top. Or great cock pics, then he's a bottom. Anyone who can't post a clear profile, or who can't read a clear profile, deserves the mess they cause.

 

[ZacharyFagg]

Folks should definitely read the profiles. But many profiles aren't clear, or the photos don't match the information. I'll see a profile with ass pics, then he says he's a top. Or great cock pics, then he's a bottom. Anyone who can't post a clear profile, or who can't read a clear profile, deserves the mess they cause.

I agree. But guys still don't pay attention. Even on this thread, after he clearly stated that he didn't want reciprocation, someone asked if they could reciprocate lol.

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

Alas, the quality of education has gone down over the decades. I'm a retired teacher, and over my 32 years of teaching, I grew increasingly frustrated over the students' lack of skills in reading or listening comprehension. Just watch some TV (especially a court show) to see how poor people's communication skills are.

When I'm looking at a profile on any site, if it's not clear, or if I get responses that show the inability to communicate clearly, I drop the conversation and block the profile. I may get fewer cocks to suck, or suckers to service me, but at least they are real connections where we both have a lot of fun.

 

[guns4444]

I only ever meet up with men to suck their cocks, and I'm often told it's really strange that an extremely masculine guy doesn't want any reciprocation. I don't see why this should be so strange.

The other thing... and my real complaint... almost all the guys I've met really get off on the idea of degrading me and making me submit... specifically because I'm masculine! I haven't sucked cock in months, because... when I meet men this is usually the kind of thing I get...

The last time, the guy told me I had to sit on my hands the whole time, pinned up against a wall, and then held my head and hate-fucked my throat hard while telling me how good it felt to make me his bitch. The only things he wanted to hear were me begging him to slam my throat or how desperate I was to for his cum... and then had me beg him to face fuck me again with his cum all over my face...

This is kind of my usual experience... I'm sucking cock while a man calls me his slut or whatever, and he forced control over the whole thing... Is this just how this goes for masculine guys who don't want reciprocation?

My problem isn't that I mind being used like this, if I did I wouldn't keep doing it! I enjoy feeling slutty and if I'm in the mood I love having a man act powerfully and use me, face fucking me and making me feel like I am a toy for his pleasure... that whole scenario is a huge turn on, but there are times... a lot of times, really... that I really want to suck cock but don't even look to meet someone because I want to slowly, sensually taste and tease a nice cock...

I'd suck cock A LOT more if I could find men that want me to really enjoy sucking their cock and would just lean back and let me act like the slut they love to tell me I am!!

One time... just once, I hooked up with a guy who wanted to relax and let me make out with his cock... it was so sexy and slutty and... I talked dirty and moaned and... it was the sloppiest and wettest blowjob I can imagine, and... I've never had such an amazing, intense sexual experience!!

It's also the only time I've ever even thought of giving in and putting the possibility of more than a blowjob out there. My ass is always strictly off limits and I made it clear to this guy beforehand when he asked (and he was fine with that), but... I got so turned on and felt so sexy and slutty devouring his dick that I asked if he still wanted my ass. When he said yes, I begged him to fuck me... he started fingering me and my moaning with him in my mouth pushed him over, so it didn't happen, but... that's how amazing being able to really enjoy sucking cock was!! It was so good, so sexy, so slutty... for the only time, I wasn't just willing to let a man fuck my ass for the first time, but I was literally desperate for it and begging him to fuck me bare and breed me!!! I felt so sexy and slutty I wanted him to fuck me like a real slut!!!

Why does being masculine mean I'm not allowed to moan and tease and be sexy while I swallow??? I want so, so badly to have another experience that sexy!! Why can't I find men who want me to really treat their cocks right??

ITs almost like i wrote this myself!

 

[BiCuriousWriter]

Alas, the quality of education has gone down over the decades. I'm a retired teacher, and over my 32 years of teaching, I grew increasingly frustrated over the students' lack of skills in reading or listening comprehension. Just watch some TV (especially a court show) to see how poor people's communication skills are.

When I'm looking at a profile on any site, if it's not clear, or if I get responses that show the inability to communicate clearly, I drop the conversation and block the profile. I may get fewer cocks to suck, or suckers to service me, but at least they are real connections where we both have a lot of fun.

I hate awkward situations, and that includes results from not reading a profile. I want boundaries to be clear before we start, and wishes even before we meet.

 

[BillyWalrus]

Alas, the quality of education has gone down over the decades. I'm a retired teacher, and over my 32 years of teaching, I grew increasingly frustrated over the students' lack of skills in reading or listening comprehension. Just watch some TV (especially a court show) to see how poor people's communication skills are.

The parents! Every one of my children could read before they even went to school. I used to joke that I only sent them to school for sports and social activities. They went to a poor rural school district but every one of them went to college. They are all very successful and happy.

 

[liqueur]

I've never understood the whole humiliation, degradation thing. If someone is sucking my cock, I'm going to be nice to them and I would expect the same if I were sucking their cock!

I agree! To me, sucking a cock is doing each other a favor. One man receives pleasure and an orgasm.

There's nothing to “understand.” It's a kink. If it's not your kink, you're not going to want it and you're not going to understand it. MKINYK

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

There's nothing to “understand.” It's a kink. If it's not your kink, you're not going to want it and you're not going to understand it. MKINYK

You're right. I don't understand it, because it's not my thing. I'm really into kissing. That's one of my things. A turn on for me is a big turn off for someone else. It goes back to live and let live. I don't understand some sexual interests, but I don't criticize anyone if that's what they like. I apologize if I came off that way. I'm just annoyed sometimes when someone presents themselves in one way that isn't really true, in life as well as in sex.

 

[GivingInToALot]

Maybe it's the app I'm using, or that I really tell guys I'm masculine, or that several of them have been married men who have this secret.

The most forcefully I've been used was an openly gay man... I was all excited because he wanted me to suck him off in front of his boyfriend and... honestly, I have a voyeuristic streak... not all the time, but it was something I hadn't done and the idea was amazing.

I got there and he told me no hands, which is fine, but backed me against a wall and held my head and just immediately pounded my throat hard. His boyfriend was the one saying the most degrading things... and from what he was saying I got the impression one of them had cheated and this was more a cathartic, weird, revenge thing than something sexual.

I'm going to try again this week and be really clear that I want to give a sensual blowjob... wish me luck.